Ramius Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Career stats... 12 games player, 2 starts, 66-134, 825 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT 49.3% completion % 68.8 career rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Career stats... 12 games player, 2 starts, 66-134, 825 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT 49.3% completion % 68.8 career rating 814184[/snapback] I would still take him over J-Lo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Career stats... 12 games player, 2 starts, 66-134, 825 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT 49.3% completion % 68.8 career rating 814184[/snapback] Another player, 20 games, 15 started. 14 td, 15 int, 16 fumbles 55.3 % completion 70.6 career rating 3-12 record. Just to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Career stats... 12 games player, 2 starts, 66-134, 825 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT 49.3% completion % 68.8 career rating 814184[/snapback] JP Losman... 70.6 career rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I would still take him over J-Lo. 814191[/snapback] Friggin' J-Lo. That's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Friggin' J-Lo. That's pretty good. 814206[/snapback] I borrowed that from the Sports Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Exactly... give Losman every freakin snap of every game this year... I don't care how poorly he plays. Neither Holcomb or Nall are saviors. Let's see what the kid can do and hopefully the light will turn on at some point. Career stats... 12 games player, 2 starts, 66-134, 825 yards, 5 TD, 4 INT 49.3% completion % 68.8 career rating 814184[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Exactly... give Losman every freakin snap of every game this year... I don't care how poorly he plays. Neither Holcomb or Nall are saviors. Let's see what the kid can do and hopefully the light will turn on at some point. 814212[/snapback] Agree 100%. Let there be no doubt that J-Lo was given a fair chance. Then if he doesn't turn it around this year, dump him quick & don't waste any more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Another player, 20 games, 15 started. 14 td, 15 int, 16 fumbles 55.3 % completion 70.6 career rating 3-12 record. Just to compare. 814193[/snapback] This wasnt a pro-losman post. This was a post for everyone who cant see because schaub's stomach is in their face and his balls on their chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This wasnt a pro-losman post. This was a post for everyone who cant see because schaub's stomach is in their face and his balls on their chin. 814221[/snapback] I wasn't commenting either way. I just wanted people to compare so they can understand why one sucks and the other doesn't. No opinion here either way. I am not saying one is good or not. Not my job to judge (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 I wasn't commenting either way. I just wanted people to compare so they can understand why one sucks and the other doesn't. No opinion here either way. I am not saying one is good or not. Not my job to judge (yet). 814224[/snapback] It really is comical how you can take the exact same stat line, put losman in front of it and he sucks, but if you put schaub or leinart in front of it, it was a great performance and it must have been the team that let them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It really is comical how you can take the exact same stat line, put losman in front of it and he sucks, but if you put schaub or leinart in front of it, it was a great performance and it must have been the team that let them down. 814228[/snapback] I've said neither this year. I know the you is the hypothetical you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think Schaub is a bit better of a passing QB in the games that I've watched. Didn't realize his numbers were so poor, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 QB's are always going to look good as long as they display some talent and when they're on another team. The biggest reason is probably because we haven't seen them in cold buffalo with our talented o-line protecting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This wasnt a pro-losman post. This was a post for everyone who cant see because schaub's stomach is in their face and his balls on their chin. 814221[/snapback] I don't have any love for Shaub but you did conveniently leave out the fact that Shaub had a 42 rating his rookie year, and a 98 rating his second year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It really is comical how you can take the exact same stat line, put losman in front of it and he sucks, but if you put schaub or leinart in front of it, it was a great performance and it must have been the team that let them down. 814228[/snapback] I think it is because we have all seen JP Losman play this year and don't need to see his stat line to think that he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think it is because we have all seen JP Losman play this year and don't need to see his stat line to think that he sucks. 814275[/snapback] Stats don't the whole story either. A Qb with a relatively low completion percent but a fair amount of yards is probably going downfield more. As long as the INT's are down and the team is winning, that style is good in that it keeps safeites off the line and LB's back, opening the running game. But a high completion percent with minimal yards can actually hurt a team and teams just have to play everything under, and stop the YAC's. Think Holcomb here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Stats don't the whole story either. A Qb with a relatively low completion percent but a fair amount of yards is probably going downfield more. As long as the INT's are down and the team is winning, that style is good in that it keeps safeites off the line and LB's back, opening the running game. But a high completion percent with minimal yards can actually hurt a team and teams just have to play everything under, and stop the YAC's. Think Holcomb here. 814279[/snapback] You are dead on regarding completion percentage and YPA. Stats are also not equal to grades, i.e. making incorrect reeads, missing open receivers, holding onto the ball too long, taking sacks that kill your team, fumbling snaps. Losmans stats would actually indicate a higher grade. His stats make him look like a B- or C+ when his play actually earns him a C- or a D+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 This wasnt a pro-losman post. This was a post for everyone who cant see because schaub's stomach is in their face and his balls on their chin. 814221[/snapback] I can't say I recall Shaub's name being brought up recently. Have I missed something? Comparisons between teams and/or players are lame in any event...you go with what you have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I can't say I recall Shaub's name being brought up recently. Have I missed something? Comparisons between teams and/or players are lame in any event...you go with what you have... 814292[/snapback] He's been discussed as he's an RFA after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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