dave mcbride Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Through 7 games, Losman has turned the ball over 11 times (6 ints; 5 fumble losses out of a total of 8 fumbles). here are the three other turnovers the bills have committed: 1 fumble by brian moorman 1 fumble by peerless price 1 fumble by terrence mcgee so, factoring out the 2 special teams fumbles, losman is responsible for 11 out of the bills 12 offensive turnovers. there is some good news in this. mcgahee handles the ball a ton, and he simply doesn't fumble (he fumbled once, but recovered it). the bills receivers, all of whom have a decent number of receptions, take care of the ball -- only price has fumbled (one time). turnovers decide games, and yes, the qb by the very nature of his position will lead the team in turnovers. usually, though, it's not an 11/12 ratio. moreover, he's on a pace to turn the ball over 25 times this year. a qb who turns the ball over 25 times while the rest of the team basically takes care of the ball is not a good situation, because a) it generally means you're going to lose and b) the players are going to turn against him at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 when a QB is standing in the pocket starting to step into his throw, and guys come in untouched from the blindside and crush him... i dont blame him for fumbling. the two killer fumbles against the jets were both Gandy/McGahee's fault. and while i dont remember every fumble specifically, i do remember thinking a lot of them weren't his fault. the ref causing him to fumble... as i said in the other thread, Good things happen to Good teams, stuff like that happens to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Through 7 games, Losman has turned the ball over 11 times (6 ints; 5 fumble losses out of a total of 8 fumbles). 813989[/snapback] Well, if he ends up with say 16 int's, that's not bad. I'm guessing the fumbles are under duress - I don't see the bills game so I'm not sure. Of course, turnovers are situational... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Well, if he ends up with say 16 int's, that's not bad. I'm guessing the fumbles are under duress - I don't see the bills game so I'm not sure. Of course, turnovers are situational... 814008[/snapback] i don't disagree. however, he's having a lot of trouble holding onto the ball once he gets inside an opponent's 35 yard line. i'm not sure what the bills red zone percentage is (although i'm guessing it's bad), but i'm very certain that if there was an "scoring any points from inside the opponent's 35 yard line ratio," the bills would be near the bottom of the league. this team is a classic case of being able to move between the 20s without being able to do much else. i mean chrissake -- they have a very good back who holds onto the rock and has a boatload of carries,, but he has only 1 -- 1!!!! -- td through nearly half the season. that's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I was saying that earlier. I think that he might have small hands or something. I can give him a pass on the 2 times that he was blindsided by the Jets, but most of the time its as if the ball just slips out of his hands. He is usually good for at least one dropped shotgun snap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The QB usually has the most fumbles because they a) Have posetion of the ball in 100% of the offences plays (99%) if your yesterdays Bills (wtf was that direct snap to Reed at QB????????) b) typically a fumble will come when the player is sacked from behind trying to make a throw. A RB and WR have less to worry about, they just have to hold onto the ball and go down field. A QB has to watch the enitre field, decide where to go with the ball and make the play all while looking out for a linemen coming charging at him. A QB who scrambles is also more likely then one who does not. JP's fumbling problem is a concern, but not something that can't be overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 i would like to know exacly which of those fumbles JP just dropped for no reason as you gus are implying. im pretty sure someone has been hitting him on every fumble. im not excusing it, plenty of QBs get sacked and dont fumble, but cmon, hes not out there just dropping the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 i don't disagree. however, he's having a lot of trouble holding onto the ball once he gets inside an opponent's 35 yard line. i'm not sure what the bills red zone percentage is (although i'm guessing it's bad), but i'm very certain that if there was an "scoring any points from inside the opponent's 35 yard line ratio," the bills would be near the bottom of the league. this team is a classic case of being able to move between the 20s without being able to do much else. i mean chrissake -- they have a very good back who holds onto the rock and has a boatload of carries,, but he has only 1 -- 1!!!! -- td through nearly half the season. that's pathetic. 814035[/snapback] I think their red-zone % is indeed bad. I'd try a few designed roll-outs when they get close. Can't hurt. The lack of rush td's hurts...seems like they aren't getting into many goal-to-go situations. I know there are "goal-line" specialists...the old Bill, Roosevelt Leaks comes to mind, but from what I've seen of WMG's play, I'm pretty sure he can punch it in. I have a question: Are they running any 3-step drop hitch-and-go plays to Evans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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