Gavin in Va Beach Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Vick answered: "When Reeves was here, I was 50 yards shy of 3,000 yards passing, and I was among top 15 in passing in NFL. Coach Reeves, he believed in me and gave me a chance to throw the football." The frustrated quarterback didn't stop at questioning the coaching staff. He also wondered if he'd be better off with different teammates, specifically at wide receiver. Carter threw out names like Chad Johnson and Randy Moss, and Vick said, "Or a Marvin Harrison. ... I always think about that, Cris. I always think, if I played in Indianapolis, what type of effect would I have on that team? Or what would I be able to do different? It's something I wish I could do for just one week. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2632684 Vick is beyond dumb. Wonder how hard his teammates will feel like playing for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2632684 Vick is beyond dumb. Wonder how hard his teammates will feel like playing for him now. 810923[/snapback] I don't understand why the Falcons don't trade him to the Raiders for Randy Moss and a first round pick. They will never win a championship with a RB playing QB, they are one-dimensional. Give Schaub the start, he is a much better QB. (Not RB, QB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 The most over rated player in the game today. When the Falcons win he gets all the credit. I mean everyone was all up on his jock with ATL fast start and the running numbers they were putting up. But where were the points to go along with that? If ATL D gives up over 17 points then the team is in trouble, especially if he has to pass to get them back in the game. To all those who hate on JP: if had been in the league as long as Vick and his supporters were still making excuses and blaming others then you'd have a case. Every year it is his receivers aren't good enough, he is a playmaker, all he does is win. All he does is win; win what? All he ever accomplish was a playoff win in Green Bay. He has regeressesd as a passer every year since. And last year, the D fell off and gave up more points then Vick couldn't deliver. If you want an occasional highlight then Vick is the man. If you want a consistent NFL passer then he is not. Like I tell my over hyped ATL friend all on Vick's jockstrap: "I'm not saying that he won't, I just say that he DON'T. I'm not saying that he can't, I'll just say that he A'INT! Until he does he is just OVER RATED!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Oh yeah, Mex, this is the way to get what you want. Whinge about the HC and all your key teammates. Publically. And talk about how great some other team is. Mora should suspend him for this, or at the very least, bench him for the first series next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Yup, always the WR's fault. Funny how it has been about a dozen different WR's fault in vick's time there. Lets see, atlanta passing game has been terrible over the past few years. It is more likely because of A) the 12 different WR's they have played, or B) the QB who has been under center this entire time. If Atlanta was smart, they'd make Schaub the starter, and vick a WR or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 If Atlanta was smart, they'd make Schaub the starter, and vick a WR or something. 810969[/snapback] Great minds think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2632684 Vick is beyond dumb. Wonder how hard his teammates will feel like playing for him now. 810923[/snapback] Michael Vick and Randy Moss on the same team... I want to see THAT train wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 JP Losman is getting better numbers out of Peerless Price than Vick did. That says something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 JP Losman is getting better numbers out of Peerless Price than Vick did. That says something. 810986[/snapback] Actually no. PP had 28 his first 6 games with Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 A player is only as good as the system he is in, ESPECIALLY a quarterback. And Vick is in the wrong system. Atlanta needs to fire Greg Knapp and fire him FAST. They are trying to employ the West Coast offense with one of the most athletically gifted quarterbacks in the league. Vick has a point. They rarely allow him to throw the ball and when they do, it's usually a dink and dunk type route. Absolutely ridiculous. I have seen him throw the ball in college and he had one of the best deep balls in the country. I was at the Falcons game this Sunday against the Giants. The playcalling on offense was horrible. The ONE time (note: one) that the coaches allowed Vick to throw a deep pass, it was right on the money and should have been a touchdown. Instead, it went through the receiver's hands. Trash him all you want, I'd take him over JP in a heartbeat. The most over rated player in the game today. When the Falcons win he gets all the credit. I mean everyone was all up on his jock with ATL fast start and the running numbers they were putting up. But where were the points to go along with that? If ATL D gives up over 17 points then the team is in trouble, especially if he has to pass to get them back in the game. To all those who hate on JP: if had been in the league as long as Vick and his supporters were still making excuses and blaming others then you'd have a case. Every year it is his receivers aren't good enough, he is a playmaker, all he does is win. All he does is win; win what? All he ever accomplish was a playoff win in Green Bay. He has regeressesd as a passer every year since. And last year, the D fell off and gave up more points then Vick couldn't deliver. If you want an occasional highlight then Vick is the man. If you want a consistent NFL passer then he is not. Like I tell my over hyped ATL friend all on Vick's jockstrap: "I'm not saying that he won't, I just say that he DON'T. I'm not saying that he can't, I'll just say that he A'INT! Until he does he is just OVER RATED!" 810938[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 A player is only as good as the system he is in, ESPECIALLY a quarterback. And Vick is in the wrong system. Atlanta needs to fire Greg Knapp and fire him FAST. They are trying to employ the West Coast offense with one of the most athletically gifted quarterbacks in the league. Vick has a point. They rarely allow him to throw the ball and when they do, it's usually a dink and dunk type route. Absolutely ridiculous. I have seen him throw the ball in college and he had one of the best deep balls in the country. I was at the Falcons game this Sunday against the Giants. The playcalling on offense was horrible. The ONE time (note: one) that the coaches allowed Vick to throw a deep pass, it was right on the money and should have been a touchdown. Instead, it went through the receiver's hands. Trash him all you want, I'd take him over JP in a heartbeat. 811080[/snapback] Often times when i see "last post by 'dawgg'", i am almost compelled to read the thread to see what special brand of retard you have brought to the table on that given day. Today is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Trash him all you want, I'd take him over JP in a heartbeat. 811080[/snapback] J.P. is a right handed, slower, less athletic, white version of Michael Vick, sans the herpes and delinquent brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 J.P. is a right handed, slower, less athletic, white version of Michael Vick, sans the herpes and delinquent brother. 811110[/snapback] And the best part...JP's already a better passer than vick will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 And the best part...JP's already a better passer than vick will ever be. 811112[/snapback] Ramius, you are a better passer than Vick will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Vick sucks, but I have to (sigh) agree with Dawgg...at least in part. The west coast offense is the absolute worst offense he could ever be in. That offense was designed for smart, accurate QBs with little or no running ability. Vick is the exact opposite of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Vick sucks, but I have to (sigh) agree with Dawgg...at least in part. The west coast offense is the absolute worst offense he could ever be in. That offense was designed for smart, accurate QBs with little or no running ability. Vick is the exact opposite of that. 811125[/snapback] Steve Young liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Steve Young liked it. 811129[/snapback] So did favre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Steve Young liked it. 811129[/snapback] Yeah I know. I thought about him, FAvre and McNabb and such, but Young was exceedingly intelligent and accurate. Having mobility is obviously not going to make one fail in the WC, it just isn't really all that important. Drew Bledsoe and Mike Vick can probably drop back 3 steps in about the same amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 but Young was exceedingly intelligent and accurate. 811137[/snapback] and right there is why vick will never succeed in the WC offense. He's the same as culpepper. they run around and fling the ball upfield and hope its caught. neither one can read a defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 "If I only had a brain. . ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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