Terrence Mcgee, the great wide receiver

[daquixers_is_back]

A few days ago a buddy of myne asked me whether the Bills ever tried McGee out as a wide receiver. I told him I did not know and basically didnt care. Then today I was reading an article on NFL.com in a little paragraph about how Steve Smith started his career as a pro-bowl kickoff/punt returner. Mid way through the article it says this

 

He began his career as a Pro Bowl kickoff and punt returner and still plays with that punt returner mentality. His biggest weapon is his open-field running. Once he gets the ball in his hands, all bets are off. Whether it's on a reception, punt return or reverse, he's a threat to score any time he touches the ball. If you still aren't sold on Smith, just ask the Chicago Bears. He lit them up for 218 yards and two touchdowns on 14 catches in the playoffs last year. When a reporter asked NFL Defensive Player of the Year Brian Urlacher what happened in the game, he responded, "Steve Smith."

 

Their bodies are pretty much identical.

 

Steve Smith - 5'9, 185 pounds

Terrence McGee - 5'9, 195 pounds

 

Their is only a 1 year age difference (Smith is older). What if we gave McGee a shot at receiver ... just a thought. What do you think?

[rolly]

A few days ago a buddy of myne asked me whether the Bills ever tried McGee out as a wide receiver. I told him I did not know and basically didnt care. Then today I was reading an article on NFL.com in a little paragraph about how Steve Smith started his career as a pro-bowl kickoff/punt returner. Mid way through the article it says this

Their bodies are pretty much identical.

 

Steve Smith - 5'9, 185 pounds

Terrence McGee - 5'9, 195 pounds

 

Their is only a 1 year age difference (Smith is older). What if we gave McGee a shot at receiver ... just a thought. What do you think?

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Why not. Jeez at this point I wouldn't care if moorman ran a streak once a game.

[Buftex]

A few days ago a buddy of myne asked me whether the Bills ever tried McGee out as a wide receiver. I told him I did not know and basically didnt care. Then today I was reading an article on NFL.com in a little paragraph about how Steve Smith started his career as a pro-bowl kickoff/punt returner. Mid way through the article it says this

Their bodies are pretty much identical.

 

Steve Smith - 5'9, 185 pounds

Terrence McGee - 5'9, 195 pounds

 

Their is only a 1 year age difference (Smith is older). What if we gave McGee a shot at receiver ... just a thought. What do you think?

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Jeez...this is like one of those "I am bored out of my skull, and I can't wait until football season starts" threads we usually start to see in May and June.......

[daquixers_is_back]

Jeez...this is like one of those "I am bored out of my skull, and I can't wait until football season starts" threads we usually start to see in May and June.......

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Kinda. Although this one makes some sense because their is a reasonable comparison.

[Stussy109]

We have Parrish...

[ans4e64]

Kinda. Although this one makes some sense because their is a reasonable comparison.

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A reasonable comparison? are you nuts? It specifically says Steve Smith started as a punt returner and then factored in more to the OFFENSE..... I dont know if you remember but McGee plays DEFENSE..... and started as a corner. Just because they are the same size? Hell im 5'9'' 185.... maybe I should play some receiver

 

Just bustin ur balls here, but come on.... i know the Bills stink at this point and there is nothing else to talk about... but seriously lol

[daquixers_is_back]

A reasonable comparison? are you nuts? It specifically says Steve Smith started as a punt returner and then factored in more to the OFFENSE..... I dont know if you remember but McGee plays DEFENSE..... and started as a corner. Just because they are the same size? Hell im 5'9'' 185.... maybe I should play some receiver 

 

Just bustin ur balls here, but come on.... i know the Bills stink at this point and there is nothing else to talk about... but seriously lol

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As I said it was just a thought to waste time. But in all honesty. What is the difference between a great kickoff returner who plays offense and a great kickoff returner that plays defense. McGee is a CB, meaning he has the speed to stay with WR's and their routes, so he must have the speed to atleast be an average WR. Once he gets the ball on a kickoff he can make pretty much anyone miss. If he gets the ball on offense I could see him making people miss also.

 

BTW: Do you remember Troy Brown? Do you remember him? In 2004 he had 17 tackles and 3 INT's and 2 fumble recoveries as a CB on defense and 17 receptions and a TD on offense ... but he plays OFFENSE , not DEFENSE ... right?

 

Hell im 5'9'' 185.... maybe I should play some receiver 

 

Well once you become a dominant kickoff returner in NFL with 4 TD's, we may think about it

[daquixers_is_back]

We have Parrish...

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Parrish weighs about 30 pounds less ...

[clownments22]

i actually think this is a good question, but i think the real question here is why don't more players play both ways?

 

it comes down to fundamentals of the game. why don't more WR's and CB's play both ways? most likely because it's best to have fresh guys on the field at all times, and at some point in time in their football lives, each player (or his coaches) decided which they were better at, and on which side of the ball they could help their team the most. i'm sure the majority of NFL players played on both sides of the ball in high school, but each guy stood out at one position so that's the position they play, and that's what's best for the team.

[Dibs]

BTW: Do you remember Troy Brown? Do you remember him? In 2004 he had 17 tackles and 3 INT's and 2 fumble recoveries as a CB on defense and 17 receptions and a TD on offense ... but he plays OFFENSE , not DEFENSE ... right?

Well once you become a dominant kickoff returner in NFL with 4 TD's, we may think about it

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An exception to the rule does not a rule make.....& it's reversed anyway.

 

Troy Brown is an exceptionally versatile athlete.

I assume you agree with that statement.

Think about the word exceptionally.

He is an exception to the norm.

 

It's a fairly ridiculous hypothetical.

Simply, if all you needed to be a great WR was speed & allusiveness, there would be EVERY decent PR & KR in history making the change(or at least attempting it)....a top WR is perceived as FAR more valuable than a top return man.

You insult WRs by implying it is that easy to do their job.

 

Honestly, why is it when you admit that this is simply thrown out there by you & that your first thoughts on it were....& I quote....."I told him I did not know and basically didnt care.".....why do you feel the necessity to argue the point when others point out how ridiculous it is. You act as if you believe it could be a legitimate possibility even though you know it is preposterous(or do you?).

Playing devil's advocate only works when there is a reasonable counter argument.....when there isn't it just becomes a waste of time.

[daquixers_is_back]

An exception to the rule does not a rule make.....& it's reversed anyway.

 

Troy Brown is an exceptionally versatile athlete.

I assume you agree with that statement.

Think about the word exceptionally.

He is an exception to the norm.

 

It's a fairly ridiculous hypothetical.

Simply, if all you needed to be a great WR was speed & allusiveness, there would be EVERY decent PR & KR in history making the change(or at least attempting it)....a top WR is perceived as FAR more valuable than a top return man.

You insult WRs by implying it is that easy to do their job.

 

Honestly, why is it when you admit that this is simply thrown out there by you & that your first thoughts on it were....& I quote....."I told him I did not know and basically didnt care.".....why do you feel the necessity to argue the point when others point out how ridiculous it is.  You act as if you believe it could be a legitimate possibility even though you know it is preposterous(or do you?). 

Playing devil's advocate only works when there is a reasonable counter argument.....when there isn't it just becomes a waste of time.

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A waste of time you just added to?

 

You had 2 choices.

 

1. Believe it was ridiculous and ignore the thread, thus reducing the chance of other people replying as it fell down the list of other threads

 

or

 

2. Bumping it up by "wasting" a couple minutes of your time to write a paragraph response thus enabling everyone else to see the thread that you believe is a "waste of time" although you decided to "waste your time" and reply to it

 

BTW: "every decent PR & KR in history" doesnt make the pro-bowl and do incredible on returns.

 

Of course I dont think its going to happen ... yet on the reverse side its 4:36 am on Friday morning. Their is nothing else to do. So yes playing devils advocate keeps the time going and is somewhat entertaining.

 

Far be it for me to post a thought on a MESSAGE BOARD. I know thats not what their made for.

 

Wow. thats 5 's in one post ... and used appropriately

[Dibs]

A waste of time you just added to?   

 

You had 2 choices.

 

1. Believe it was ridiculous and ignore the thread, thus reducing the chance of other people replying as it fell down the list of other threads

 

or

 

2. Bumping it up by "wasting" a couple minutes of your time to write a paragraph response thus enabling everyone else to see the thread that you believe is a "waste of time" although you decided to "waste your time" and reply to it 

 

BTW: "every decent PR & KR in history" doesnt make the pro-bowl and do incredible on returns. 

 

Of course I dont think its going to happen ... yet on the reverse side its 4:36 am on Friday morning. Their is nothing else to do. So yes playing devils advocate keeps the time going and is somewhat entertaining. 

 

Far be it for me to post a thought on a MESSAGE BOARD. I know thats not what their made for. 

 

Wow. thats 5  's  in one post ... and used appropriately 

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No, the waste of time is playing devil's advocate without a reasonable counter argument......I have no problem at all with the initial post.

 

Obviously by "decent PR/KR" I meant of probowl level or there abouts.....well, I thought it should be obvious.

 

My first sentence countered 4 of your 5 smileys. I'd say you wasted 3 smileys on me.

 

BTW, it's a much more manageable 6:53pm where I am.

[daquixers_is_back]

No, the waste of time is playing devil's advocate without a reasonable counter argument......I have no problem at all with the initial post.

 

Obviously by "decent PR/KR" I meant of probowl level or there abouts.....well, I thought it should be obvious.

 

My first sentence countered 4 of your 5  smileys.  I'd say you wasted 3  smileys on me.

 

BTW, it's a much more manageable 6:53pm where I am.

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Thanks for the bump again!

 

decent = pro bowl to you? tell me thats sarcasm please

 

As far as me insulting WR's saying that their job is easy ... Im not. I played middle school ball, high school football, and now hoping to start college football somewhat soon. Players with a great ability have the ability to do other things. Reggie Bush can run the ball as a straight up RB - or - catch the ball LINED UP as a wide receiver. K. Stewart could QB one game and play WR the next game. Their have been kids who have been scouted as a talent because the kickoff went too short and they had no choice but to field it and ended up taking it 60 yards for a TD. Hidden talents.

 

What im NOT saying is that McGee would be a great receiver. I never said that. Yet how is it unrealistic to think he has a shot at atleast being a decent one? Pa-lease. Anything is possible and to be honest I really dont think Troy Brown is a exceptionally good athlete. He was forced into the CB role because of injuries and ended up doing well. But lets face it. His original (and still his) position is WR where he has netted a whopping 529 receptions for 6,150 yards in 13 seasons. Thats 40 receptions for 473 yards.

 

Evans avg: 44 receptions for 668 yards

Peerless avg: 51 receptions for about 690 yards

 

Thus by your logic they are "exceptional" athletes also

 

Just messin around but still

[MartyBall4Buffalo]

since I'm bored some fuel for the fire. Picked this little nugget off mcgees prospect profile

 

CAREER NOTES

Four-year starter who is regarded as not only a superb coverage defender, but also an excellent return specialist and a kick blocker … Saw brief action on offense during his career … Nicknamed "Turtle" for the way he wears his shoulder pads above his ears before dropping them on his shoulders at the last possible moment before practice … Recorded 192 tackles (142 solos) with a 9-yard sack, 6 stops for losses of 25 yards, 46 deflected passes, 11 interceptions for 166 yards in returns and 2 touchdowns, 4 forced fumbles, 3 fumble recoveries and 3 blocked kicks in 43 games … Returned 56 punts for a school career-record 972 yards (17.4 avg) and 3 touchdowns, breaking the old mark of 845 yards by Al Dodd (1963-66) … Added 267 yards on 12 kickoff returns (22.3 avg), 12 yards on a reception and 5 yards on 3 carries.

 

Now obviously that's much of nothing, but occasionaly using mcgee on offense wouldn't be the worst idea in the world. Steve Smith btw has been a wr since highschool and was a standout wr at Utah. I'm not above getting the ball in the hands of players who can make plays, but comparing mcgee to smith is a little over the top. Still I've heard worse ideas

[Dibs]

Thanks for the bump again!

 

decent = pro bowl to you? tell me thats sarcasm please

 

As far as me insulting WR's saying that their job is easy ... Im not. I played middle school ball, high school football, and now hoping to start college football somewhat soon. Players with a great ability have the ability to do other things. Reggie Bush can run the ball as a straight up RB  - or - catch the ball LINED UP as a wide receiver. K. Stewart could QB one game and play WR the next game. Their have been kids who have been scouted as a talent because the kickoff went too short and they had no choice but to field it and ended up taking it 60 yards for a TD.  Hidden talents.

 

What im NOT saying is that McGee would be a great receiver. I never said that. Yet how is it unrealistic to think he has a shot at atleast being a decent one? Pa-lease. Anything is possible and to be honest I really dont think Troy Brown is a exceptionally good athlete. He was forced into the CB role because of injuries and ended up doing well. But lets face it. His original (and still his) position is WR where he has netted a whopping 529 receptions for 6,150 yards in 13 seasons. Thats 40 receptions for 473 yards.

 

Evans avg: 44 receptions for 668 yards

Peerless avg: 51 receptions for about 690 yards

 

Thus by your logic they are "exceptional" athletes also

 

Just messin around but still

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You must be really tired.

 

I said I had no problem with the post....I'll repeat myself again.....the waste of time is playing devil's advocate without a reasonable counter argument.

 

In the context of the sentence....yes decent meant good....meant in the same ballpark as who we were talking about. I perhaps should have been a bit more succinct but some benefit of doubt on my intelligence would have been appreciated.

 

You have a habit of picking out exceptions to the rule to prove a general point. It does not hold water. To say that an existing athlete known for their versatility such as Bush or K. Stewart shows that any gifted athlete can excel outside their expert area is not a logical progression. Very, very few athletes are that versatile.

You were not simply saying anything is possible & McGee if given the chance might make an OK receiver.....you were initially asking a silly question which you knew was silly so that when people refuted it by basically saying it was silly, you could use silly rebuttals against them because you are bored.

 

Did I say Troy Brown was an exceptionally good athlete? (which he is, simply based on the fact he is a pro-football player).

I actually said...."Troy Brown is an exceptionally versatile athlete."

 

It is the versatility of the player which I focused on. Very few players are that versatile....so versatile that they can play multiple positions at a high enough level to warrant them actually playing those positions. Very few OLmen can play all 3 positions. Most RBs(who have the speed/awareness/moves etc) can't catch the ball or get open easily enough to make it as WRs....neither can most TEs. LBs often can only play one position etc, etc, etc.

 

Your comparison in the end is with Steve Smith....one of the best in the league. If you were not implying that McGee had a shot at emulating him what were you saying? You could have just as easily had a thread saying "Deon Sanders played a little WR & failed miserably so I hope we don't waste our efforts in trying to use McGee as a WR." Then, when people would naturally point out that it is a silly thing to say & that just because Sanders couldn't, blah, blah.....you could have argued the opposite of this thread.....either way, it fills the time.

[Ramius]

I usually subscribe to the old addage that CB's are really WR's who cant catch.

[daquixers_is_back]

You must be really tired.

 

I said I had no problem with the post....I'll repeat myself again.....the waste of time is playing devil's advocate without a reasonable counter argument.

 

In the context of the sentence....yes decent meant good....meant in the same ballpark as who we were talking about.  I perhaps should have been a bit more succinct but some benefit of doubt on my intelligence would have been appreciated.

 

You have a habit of picking out exceptions to the rule to prove a general point.  It does not hold water.  To say that an existing athlete known for their versatility such as Bush or K. Stewart shows that any gifted athlete can excel outside their expert area is not a logical progression.  Very, very few athletes are that versatile.

You were not simply saying anything is possible & McGee if given the chance might make an OK receiver.....you were initially asking a silly question which you knew was silly so that when people refuted it by basically saying it was silly, you could use silly rebuttals against them because you are bored. 

 

Did I say Troy Brown was an exceptionally good athlete?  (which he is, simply based on the fact he is a pro-football player).

I actually said...."Troy Brown is an exceptionally versatile athlete."

 

It is the versatility of the player which I focused on.  Very few players are that versatile....so versatile that they can play multiple positions at a high enough level to warrant them actually playing those positions.  Very few OLmen can play all 3 positions.  Most RBs(who have the speed/awareness/moves etc) can't catch the ball or get open easily enough to make it as WRs....neither can most TEs.  LBs often can only play one position etc, etc, etc.

 

Your comparison in the end is with Steve Smith....one of the best in the league.  If you were not implying that McGee had a shot at emulating him what were you saying?  You could have just as easily had a thread saying "Deon Sanders played a little WR & failed miserably so I hope we don't waste our efforts in trying to use McGee as a WR."  Then, when people would naturally point out that it is a silly thing to say & that just because Sanders couldn't, blah, blah.....you could have argued the opposite of this thread.....either way, it  fills the time.

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Your acting somewhat ridiculous dont you think? What was "silly" about my rebuttals. I brought in relevant facts.

[VABills]

I usually subscribe to the old addage that CB's are really WR's who cant catch.

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Or run disciplined routes.

[PacificCoastBillsFan]

Just a quick thought, how many dropped would be INT verses INTs does McGee Have? If I recall most CB lack the ability to catch the ball on a consistant basis, thats why they play def.

[SACKMARINO]

Just a quick thought, how many dropped would be INT verses INTs does McGee Have?  If I recall most CB lack the ability to catch the ball on a consistant basis, thats why they play def.

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didn't TMcGee drop and relatively easy pick last week? i could be wrong.