Swift Sylvan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Of our three DE's I'm curious to see who everyone believes is good enough to stay with the Bill's and who we should get rid of to be upgraded. Edit: Also I realized I didn't give an option for all of them to stay, but at the rate people are complaining I didn't think it would get voted much anyways. Tell me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Kelsay/Denney or both. We'll see how the new guy pans out before I judge. Anyone who thinks Schobel should leave is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Kelsay/Denney or both. We'll see how the new guy pans out before I judge. Anyone who thinks Schobel should leave is nuts. 808465[/snapback] Schobel is okay, i wouldn't go as far as thinking that the person is nuts as long as they have a reasonable argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ryan Neill stays Ryan Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Schobel is okay, i wouldn't go as far as thinking that the person is nuts as long as they have a reasonable argument. 808466[/snapback] He averages 9.3 sacks a season. End argument, either way. He has twice as many sacks, alone, as Denney and Kelsay combined. End argument as to why he stays, they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 He averages 9.3 sacks a season. End argument, either way. He has twice as many sacks, alone, as Denney and Kelsay combined. End argument as to why he stays, they go. 808479[/snapback] Yes, Schobel has the sacks. But he can't stop the run. period. End argument. Get rid of him now? No. Down the line? Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 It'll be Schobel, Hargrove, Denney, and Powell next year. According to Chris Brown's blog, Kelsay is a FA after this season. I don't think we'll be looking to spend much on retaining his services. Which is another reason Buffalo pulled the trigger on a deal with the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Yes, Schobel has the sacks. But he can't stop the run. period. End argument. Get rid of him now? No. Down the line? Possibly. 808484[/snapback] Neither can Tim Anderson, but he doesn't produce sacks OR tackles. Schobel can stay for all I care, we have MUCH more pressing issues. LT. RG. CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Neither can Tim Anderson, but he doesn't produce sacks OR tackles. Schobel can stay for all I care, we have MUCH more pressing issues. LT. RG. CB. 808509[/snapback] I agree completely with the Tim Anderson comments. Oh i didn't say that we didn't have much more pressing needs. I was merely pointing out that you said anyone who says Schobel is nuts, and i said that if there was a justifiable reason to release him, then this team should go for it. I stated he can't stop the run. I was merely saying that if we were to find someone who could both get sacks and stop the run, then i would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 So far Kelsay is by far the most popular of the three in terms of who should get the axe. I haven't seen any of the games (due to living in the pacific timezone) but statswise Kelsay looks superior to Denney, is Denney that much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 So far Kelsay is by far the most popular of the three in terms of who should get the axe. I haven't seen any of the games (due to living in the pacific timezone) but statswise Kelsay looks superior to Denney, is Denney that much better? 808532[/snapback] Denney had a good game against the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Why does anyone need to leave? Denney is a straight up monster this year, i cant speak for how he is on running plays but he is just wreaking havoc in backfields this year. Denney and Kelsay are leading this team in sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Why does anyone need to leave? Denney is a straight up monster this year, i cant speak for how he is on running plays but he is just wreaking havoc in backfields this year. Denney and Kelsay are leading this team in sacks. 808636[/snapback] Take away the Miami game, because their O-line is worse than ours, and tell me how good they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I 90 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Why does anyone need to leave? Denney is a straight up monster this year, i cant speak for how he is on running plays but he is just wreaking havoc in backfields this year. Denney and Kelsay are leading this team in sacks. 808636[/snapback] Anthony Hargrove, plain and simple. Even if he is only a modest upgrade it shows the team's dissatisfaction at the position. I wouldn't get used to any of these DE's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Theres no reason that any of these three need to go. It would be nice, however, to somehow come up with a very good/great DE to throw into the mix here and make for a fine rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Take away the Miami game, because their O-line is worse than ours, and tell me how good they are. 808655[/snapback] That would mean in 5 games Kelsay would have 3 sacks and 22 tackles. That still is really good for a rotational DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Theres no reason that any of these three need to go. It would be nice, however, to somehow come up with a very good/great DE to throw into the mix here and make for a fine rotation. 808770[/snapback] Defensive End might be the strongest, deepest position on the team. If it isn't, what is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Defensive End might be the strongest, deepest position on the team. If it isn't, what is? 809117[/snapback] QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Schobel/Kelsay/Denney.....is it just me or does it feel like the 3 musketeers have been the core of the Bills D line for about 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Defensive End might be the strongest, deepest position on the team. If it isn't, what is? It could be. Too bad there is no true difference maker. All three are good complemenatry type players. I can see all of them being absolute monsters (a la Bryce Paup) if we had that one guy who could command a double team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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