RayFinkle Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 IMHO, "It" is basically a belief by teammates, fans, coaches, etc, that no matter what happens during a game, their guy can pick himself up and lead the team to victory. Does Leinart have "it" this early? Based off of his college career and what he has done it two games, maybe he is on the road. Does he have "it" at the same level of Brady or Montana? Hell no. Can guys lose "it" or find "it" later in their career? Absolutley. I think Farve had "it" for a decade but is quickly losing "it". Does a guy like Brees now have "it"? Hell yeah.
bartshan-83 Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 His record is 2-0 ... the Cardinals are 1-5 He played the best he could have possibly played. His team let him down. 807451[/snapback] That's an excellent point. It got me to thinking about Jeff George and the 1997 Raiders. Sadly, the team went 4-12 that year but upon futher review of Jeff's stats: 290-521 55.7% 3917 yds. 7.52 avg. 29 TDs 9 INTs 91.2 Rating ...I have decided to award him a 13-3 record. I will be calling the NFL later today to ask about having his official records changed. Additionally, the same year Napoleon Kaufman ran for 1300 yds. so he gets 11-5 and Tim Brown caught 104 passes for 1400 yds. so he gets 15-1.
Gary M Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 His record is 2-0 ... the Cardinals are 1-5 He played the best he could have possibly played. His team let him down. 807451[/snapback] And the Bills OLINE hasn't let anyone down? How about Andre Davis' no catch? And Willis "I can't pick up a Blitz" McGahee? And Mike "what's the snap count?" Gandy? You are full of "IT" OTOH you can find "IT" here or
ILoveTomBrady Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 watching the game last night I was so happy the Dolphins chose to trade for Culpepper rather than trading up for Leinart. No need for a guy like him in the division. oh, i forgot that the topic is supposed to be "it." I think #12 for New England has "it."
daquixers_is_back Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 No, he's 0-2. If you're gonna go there, then we can EASILY say JP is 4-2 this year. 807542[/snapback] That's an excellent point. It got me to thinking about Jeff George and the 1997 Raiders. Sadly, the team went 4-12 that year but upon futher review of Jeff's stats: 290-521 55.7% 3917 yds. 7.52 avg. 29 TDs 9 INTs 91.2 Rating ...I have decided to award him a 13-3 record. I will be calling the NFL later today to ask about having his official records changed. Additionally, the same year Napoleon Kaufman ran for 1300 yds. so he gets 11-5 and Tim Brown caught 104 passes for 1400 yds. so he gets 15-1. 808090[/snapback] And the Bills OLINE hasn't let anyone down? How about Andre Davis' no catch? And Willis "I can't pick up a Blitz" McGahee? And Mike "what's the snap count?" Gandy? You are full of "IT" OTOH you can find "IT" here or 808131[/snapback] Right. You guys all made my point. Im a huge Losman supporter and always have been. I just dont like it when people put down other QB's just to support Losman. Losman has won his aspect of the game in many of the BIlls losses.
bartshan-83 Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 Right. You guys all made my point. Im a huge Losman supporter and always have been. I just dont like it when people put down other QB's just to support Losman. Losman has won his aspect of the game in many of the BIlls losses. 808156[/snapback] If that was your point, then there was probably a better way to say it than Matt Leinart is actually 2-0.
daquixers_is_back Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 If that was your point, then there was probably a better way to say it than Matt Leinart is actually 2-0. 808160[/snapback] I couldnt think of one at the time ... still cant. He won every aspect of the QB's game ... thus HE is 2-0 .... the line won ALMOST every aspect of their game ... they won ... etc Rackers lost his aspect of the game Special Teams lost their aspect of the game
bartshan-83 Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 I couldnt think of one at the time ... still cant. He won every aspect of the QB's game ... thus HE is 2-0 .... the line won ALMOST every aspect of their game ... they won ... etc Rackers lost his aspect of the game Special Teams lost their aspect of the game 808168[/snapback] So players all get individual records now too? Is Lee Evans 4-2? What about the Dolphins game that we won but he only had 2 catches...does that count as a loss even though the team won?
daquixers_is_back Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 So players all get individual records now too? Is Lee Evans 4-2? What about the Dolphins game that we won but he only had 2 catches...does that count as a loss even though the team won? 808180[/snapback] Actually yeah . more of like a value thing though thus how Spikes came to us from a horrid Cinci team .. we saw the value in him and how he won his aspect of the game did you ever play highschool or college ball? you will hear coaches talking about this all the time
Swift Sylvan Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 Actually yeah . more of like a value thing though thus how Spikes came to us from a horrid Cinci team .. we saw the value in him and how he won his aspect of the game did you ever play highschool or college ball? you will hear coaches talking about this all the time 808188[/snapback] Wait? Could this be WHY teams with losing records still have pro-bowlers? NO-WAI
Rubes Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 So players all get individual records now too? Is Lee Evans 4-2? What about the Dolphins game that we won but he only had 2 catches...does that count as a loss even though the team won? 808180[/snapback] Cool, that means RJ was 1-0 for us in the playoffs.
Mr. T Posted October 18, 2006 Author Posted October 18, 2006 Man, this topic got a lot more of a response than I expected. I figured a few would simply flame me and everyone else would move on. I guess this thread just has that magical and mysterious "It".
ajzepp Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I would take a team with some huge BALLS over one with "it" any day.
BoondckCL Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I would take a team with some huge BALLS over one with "it" any day. 808387[/snapback] Well put. Not saying that i like balls more than "it". Not there is anything wrong with that.
ajzepp Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Well put. Not saying that i like balls more than "it". Not there is anything wrong with that. 808388[/snapback] I just think the best way to take out a team or a player with "it" is to just beat 'em to a pulp for 60 mins straight. When I think of "it", I think of Joe Montana. And even though he was at the end of his career when he came to buffalo as the Chiefs QB that one year in the playoffs, we beat the living hell out of him. I don't care if it's Tom Brady, Matt Leinart, Joe Montana, etc, etc....if you punch them in the mouth, their "it" won't amount to a hill of beans.
Orton's Arm Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I just think the best way to take out a team or a player with "it" is to just beat 'em to a pulp for 60 mins straight. When I think of "it", I think of Joe Montana. And even though he was at the end of his career when he came to buffalo as the Chiefs QB that one year in the playoffs, we beat the living hell out of him. I don't care if it's Tom Brady, Matt Leinart, Joe Montana, etc, etc....if you punch them in the mouth, their "it" won't amount to a hill of beans. 808397[/snapback] There's truth to this. I'm convinced Green Bay's "smash for cash" player reward system played a big role in its most recent Super Bowl win. I'm surprised more teams don't implement this, even if the extra payments would count against the salary cap.
Just Jack Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Man, this topic got a lot more of a response than I expected. I figured a few would simply flame me and everyone else would move on. I guess this thread just has that magical and mysterious "It". 808384[/snapback] Maybe that means you have "it" when it comes to starting threads.
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