Joey Balls Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 One of the most fall in line pronouncements of the conservative right in regard to the Foley-GOP coverup disgrace was to mention Massachusetts congressman Gerry Studds at every turn....though the Studds incident happened like 25 years ago. Speaking of scandal ridden GOP congressmen (the gift that keeps on giving) Rep Weldon of Pennsylvania seems to be knee deep in doo-doo today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 heheheheheheh, Studds. what a gay name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Balls Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 heheheheheheh, Studds.what a gay name 804183[/snapback] Well...there was that show Studs on emptyv back in the early nineties which was nothing but an extension of the obviously hetero Dating Game back in the seventies, but to qualify it with the extra "d" would denote possible homosexual proclivities. You may have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 One of the most fall in line pronouncements of the conservative right in regard to the Foley-GOP coverup disgrace was to mention Massachusetts congressman Gerry Studds at every turn....though the Studds incident happened like 25 years ago.Speaking of scandal ridden GOP congressmen (the gift that keeps on giving) Rep Weldon of Pennsylvania seems to be knee deep in doo-doo today. 804153[/snapback] Unfortunately, many GOP politicians have betrayed the conservative ideals of those who elected them. I include in that category Bush himself. The Foley scandal is merely a symptom of the underlying problem. The underlying problem being the GOP's transition from a conservative set of values to a more neoconservative set. A good example is W's decision to side against his base on the issue of immigration, on the theory that providing corporations with cheap labor is more important than protecting the U.S. from the Third World overpopulation crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Balls Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 Unfortunately, many GOP politicians have betrayed the conservative ideals of those who elected them. I include in that category Bush himself. The Foley scandal is merely a symptom of the underlying problem. The underlying problem being the GOP's transition from a conservative set of values to a more neoconservative set. A good example is W's decision to side against his base on the issue of immigration, on the theory that providing corporations with cheap labor is more important than protecting the U.S. from the Third World overpopulation crisis. 806015[/snapback] Though there is a thread on this board for a possible Democratic takeover of congress your post does bring up some interesting points and reasons why Republicans/Conservatives and Evangelical minded voters may stay away from the polls this year...so I'll give my thoughts here. My opinion is that the Republican party is more diverse than most would think, and they only seemed to lose their way when they decided to march in lockstep behind George Bush following the 911 crisis. That is why you are currently seeing a backlash from not only certain senior members of the congress, conservative media and party loyalists but many independents who usually sway elections. From the ill fated decision to invade Iraq to non-stop spending to betraying the Christian base it has all left a bad taste in the mouths of true conservatives. That isn't to say I believe the Republicans will lose the House and Senate (they won't-the Democrats are a joke) but they might have given enough people reason to question the party's motivation and more importantly their ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Though there is a thread on this board for a possible Democratic takeover of congress your post does bring up some interesting points and reasons why Republicans/Conservatives and Evangelical minded voters may stay away from the polls this year...so I'll give my thoughts here.My opinion is that the Republican party is more diverse than most would think, and they only seemed to lose their way when they decided to march in lockstep behind George Bush following the 911 crisis. That is why you are currently seeing a backlash from not only certain senior members of the congress, conservative media and party loyalists but many independents who usually sway elections. From the ill fated decision to invade Iraq to non-stop spending to betraying the Christian base it has all left a bad taste in the mouths of true conservatives. That isn't to say I believe the Republicans will lose the House and Senate (they won't-the Democrats are a joke) but they might have given enough people reason to question the party's motivation and more importantly their ideals. 807266[/snapback] For a guy with only 16 posts, you're sure doing a good job. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 You won't have Gerry Studds to dick around anymore fixed thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 My opinion is that the Republican party is more diverse than most would think, and they only seemed to lose their way when they decided to march in lockstep behind George Bush following the 911 crisis. That is why you are currently seeing a backlash from not only certain senior members of the congress, conservative media and party loyalists but many independents who usually sway elections. From the ill fated decision to invade Iraq to non-stop spending to betraying the Christian base it has all left a bad taste in the mouths of true conservatives. That isn't to say I believe the Republicans will lose the House and Senate (they won't-the Democrats are a joke) but they might have given enough people reason to question the party's motivation and more importantly their ideals. The Republican party is a split party, always has been. It is comprised, chiefly, of the Christian coalition and libertarians. Neither group could win on their own, both groups have similar disdain for the Democrats, but there is an underlying tension between the two groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 The Republican party is a split party, always has been. It is comprised, chiefly, of the Christian coalition and libertarians. Neither group could win on their own, both groups have similar disdain for the Democrats, but there is an underlying tension between the two groups. 809150[/snapback] The American 2-party system by definition will have split parties as its major parties, since its a plurality. This isn't exactly a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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