Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Put Losman on the Bears in this game, at home, on a roll, with that line and defense and running game, and put Grossman on the Bills with their defense and running game, etc., and this game would have turned out pretty much exactly the same way.
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Put Losman on the Bears in this game, at home, on a roll, with that line and defense and running game, and put Grossman on the Bills with their defense and running game, etc., and this game would have turned out pretty much exactly the same way. 799124[/snapback] and you say this with such certainty ... yet how can you really know?
Rayzer32 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Put Losman on the Bears in this game, at home, on a roll, with that line and defense and running game, and put Grossman on the Bills with their defense and running game, etc., and this game would have turned out pretty much exactly the same way. 799124[/snapback] It's apples and oranges. Who cares.
BuffOrange Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Put Losman on the Bears in this game, at home, on a roll, with that line and defense and running game, and put Grossman on the Bills with their defense and running game, etc., and this game would have turned out pretty much exactly the same way. 799124[/snapback] No kidding
daquixers_is_back Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 I dont know about the outcome, but Grossman SHOULD have been intercepted about 3 times today but the media will never mention that.
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 I dont know about the outcome, but Grossman SHOULD have been intercepted about 3 times today but the media will never mention that. 799133[/snapback] because he wasn't...
daquixers_is_back Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 because he wasn't... 799136[/snapback] Yet if Losman is nearly intercepted that will be menitoned ... give me a break Phil Simms. Thats you right?
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Put Losman on the Bears in this game, at home, on a roll, with that line and defense and running game, and put Grossman on the Bills with their defense and running game, etc., and this game would have turned out pretty much exactly the same way. Dead-on.
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Yet if Losman is nearly intercepted that will be menitoned ... give me a break Phil Simms. Thats you right? 799139[/snapback] Who cares? In the end, it wasn't. You're going to tread on this for what reason exactly? Will it make a 40-7 loss feel better? Why in God's name do you even care what ESPN or the rest of those clowns say?
Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2006 Author Posted October 8, 2006 and you say this with such certainty ... yet how can you really know? 799128[/snapback] Ummm.... because everyone's basic opinion is absolute certainty?
silvermike Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Rex Grossman is 4-0. After three years of being on a team with a great defense and a terrible offense - which he was blamed for in no small part - he's broken through and become an excellent QB in this league. JP should ideally be on his career path. He's just a year behind - and an unusually raw prospect at that. I don't mind if anyone says Rex is better now - he wasn't at JP's point in his career. JP did better than Hasselbeck against this team last week. There's not a lot of bright spots to be had, we got creamed. But it's against a good team, we're 2-3, and we've got 11 more games to play.
daquixers_is_back Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Who cares? In the end, it wasn't. You're going to tread on this for what reason exactly? Will it make a 40-7 loss feel better? Why in God's name do you even care what ESPN or the rest of those clowns say? 799143[/snapback] Because it has to do with the thread ... The thread is talking about how if Grossman was on the Bills it would have been the same .... and I was simply making the point that, it is probably true because he threw into our hands 4 times and if he was facing his own defense it would have been 3 INT's at least
bills44 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 I didn't think that Grossman was all that impressive. He made a nice throw to Berrian on the slant pass for the 1st TD, but other than that, it's easy to take shots downfield when you're up 20+ points
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Ummm.... because everyone's basic opinion is absolute certainty? 799146[/snapback] I don't know. Sorry I'm a bit ticked off at how i had to walk out of a bar full of bears fans with my head down.
BuffOrange Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Rex Grossman is 4-0. After three years of being on a team with a great defense and a terrible offense - which he was blamed for in no small part - he's broken through and become an excellent QB in this league. JP should ideally be on his career path. He's just a year behind - and an unusually raw prospect at that. I don't mind if anyone says Rex is better now - he wasn't at JP's point in his career. JP did better than Hasselbeck against this team last week. There's not a lot of bright spots to be had, we got creamed. But it's against a good team, we're 2-3, and we've got 11 more games to play. 799148[/snapback] He's never been a bad QB when he's played he just hasn't been healthy. He certainly wasn't the reason they lost in the playoffs last year.
Rayzer32 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 That's a tough point to make. JP has 4 tds to 4 ints. Grossman has 10 tds to 3 ints. Right now, Grossman is a better QB no matter what team he is on.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 If it means anything to anyone, the Bears went 9-6 with Kyle Orton and his 59.7 QB rating last year.
Rayzer32 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 If it means anything to anyone, the Bears went 9-6 with Kyle Orton and his 59.7 QB rating last year. 799159[/snapback] And the Steelers won the SB with Rottenburger at QB. He didn't light up the world.
VABills Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 JP did better than Hasselbeck against this team last week. There's not a lot of bright spots to be had, we got creamed. But it's against a good team, we're 2-3, and we've got 11 more games to play. 799148[/snapback] What????? I don't blame JP for this game, but Hasselbeck had only 2 INT's and no fumbles. He also threw for 200 yards. Losman had one td in garbage time. Hasselbeck wasn't even in, because the coach didn't want him hurt during garbage time. Sorry but no, Losman didn't play better.
meazza Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 What????? I don't blame JP for this game, but Hasselbeck had only 2 INT's and no fumbles. He also threw for 200 yards. Losman had one td in garbage time. Hasselbeck wasn't even in, because the coach didn't want him hurt during garbage time. Sorry but no, Losman didn't play better. 799167[/snapback] He's in denial, it helps cope with a bad loss like this
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