eSJayDee Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As a Bills Fan in the Capital District you only have a couple of choices because of the crappy coverage the Bills get locally. Sports Bar , NFL Ticket on Direct TV or go to a friends house who has Direct TV. Up until the middle of last yr, I, too, had DTV w/ Sunday Ticket & I agree w/ you that it is/was great. Unfortunately and somewhat ironically, upon buying a new TV, since DTV offers such poor High Def programming (& required purchasing a $500 rcvr at the time), I was forced to cancel my svc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny4sum Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As a Bills Fan in the Capital District you only have a couple of choices because of the crappy coverage the Bills get locally. Sports Bar , NFL Ticket on Direct TV or go to a friends house who has Direct TV. I opted for Direct TV 5 years ago. Takes all the worry out of whether or not you can see the game- The only time I miss a game now on TV is when I go to the game= then I record it on DVR. It's worth every penny and less expensive then going to the sports bar. Go Bills !! 789724[/snapback] Same with me. For those of you looking for a place to go the Bills Backers have a pretty good arrangement with the teletheater on Central Ave. in Albany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 This is the reply I just got from Becker: Mark, I will pass your message to our programming department, but I believe the decision has already been made. Sorry, Rich Becker Sports Director FOX23 28 Corporate Circle Albany, NY 12203 w)518-862-2323 789709[/snapback] Well, it seems official. Here's the reply I got from Rich Becker: "I am sorry to ruin your birthday, but we will be showing the Cowboys game on Sunday. The decision is made by our programming department back up by statistical research. Having covered the Bills for 8 seasons when I was in western NY, I know first hand how passionate Bills fans are. I am sure we'll get several complaints, likely the same number we'd have received from Dallas fans if we went with the Bills game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Well, it seems official. Here's the reply I got from Rich Becker: "I am sorry to ruin your birthday, but we will be showing the Cowboys game on Sunday. The decision is made by our programming department back up by statistical research. Having covered the Bills for 8 seasons when I was in western NY, I know first hand how passionate Bills fans are. I am sure we'll get several complaints, likely the same number we'd have received from Dallas fans if we went with the Bills game." 789821[/snapback] Is he really saying there are as many Cowboy fans as Bills fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Is he really saying there are as many Cowboy fans as Bills fans? 789828[/snapback] It sounds like the statistics are the number of complaints and he's saying the Cowboy fans naturally whine more. This said, I'd get as many people to complain as possible so the math works out differently the next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanfromAlbany Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Thanks to all who e-mailed Rich Becker. I did too but haven't gotten a response yet. I guess I'll head up to Courtney's in Latham on Sunday to watch the game. I was just hoping to use the new TV to see thegame. Up until the middle of last yr, I, too, had DTV w/ Sunday Ticket & I agree w/ you that it is/was great.Unfortunately and somewhat ironically, upon buying a new TV, since DTV offers such poor High Def programming (& required purchasing a $500 rcvr at the time), I was forced to cancel my svc. eSJayDee, I was thinking about going back to DirectTV and gettingSunday Ticket. Why were you unhappy with their HD programming? Too few channels? Low quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 sent e mail allso . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 eSJayDee,I was thinking about going back to DirectTV and gettingSunday Ticket. Why were you unhappy with their HD programming? Too few channels? Low quality? Well, the 1st reason was that upon wishing to upgrade to HD (w/ recording capability) I found that I had to spend $500 on a new rcvr (I believe they've now dropped that to like $300). I was unwilling to do that. FWIW, I was unable to 'cut a deal' w/ Customer Retention either to retain just Sunday Ticket or get a HD-DVR rcvr that so many advocate. Maybe I'm not persuasive enough. Further, they do not broadcast in true HD (they compress the signal); I don't know to what extent that ruins the viewing experience as I've never seen their picture. Why I haven't switched back is that they have fewer channels than TWC and is more expensive especially when you consider the discount I rcv for having RoadRunner. A different story: I realize that Dish has more still to offer WRT HD programming, but I've tried to sign up & install twice and they're just WAY too much of a pain to deal w/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantsOfAlbany Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 There are more Dallas Cowboys fans than Buffalo Bills fans in Albany? What??? Giants Jets Bills tied with Pats Everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark from Albany Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 And he even has "statistical research" to prove it. "Statistical research." How stupid does he think we are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 My interpretation of them saying their market was an "NFC mkt" due to the Giants is "We don't want to help promote the Bills which are a product of our competitors". After thinking about it, how many people do you see w/ Comboy jackets or T-shirts in Albany? Granted, my observations are likely biased more toward remembering Bills stuff, but I don't even recall seeing any of their stuff in stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It sounds like the statistics are the number of complaints and he's saying the Cowboy fans naturally whine more. This said, I'd get as many people to complain as possible so the math works out differently the next time around. 789834[/snapback] He's probably just following marching orders. Networks believe the "star" system pays...so we got years of seeing Farve, Brady, any Cowboy team, now Vick and Bush. And they're right. The public fawns over no-talent clods with pearly teeth, touseled hair, foul language or prominent bust lines. The tackier the better - Super Bowl halftime shows, for example. They give the people what they want...crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie68 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 More Cowboys fans than Buffalo fans in Albany NY? he cant be serious. i cant remember the last time time i ran into a cowboy fan here. this is gints country, with bills and pats and jets condsidered secondary local teams/markets. dallas? no. only thing that makes some sense is that dallas is in giants division, but that should not trump a bills/pats/jets game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGTEleven Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Here's the e-mail I sent this AM: Nice choice for today’s game. The Titans? Is that serious? Last I checked, the Buffalo Bills were an Upstate New York team. You get two opportunities per season to show them on your channel. While the Cowboys certainly have some fans everywhere, they do not have nearly as many local fans as the Bills. The Vikings absolutely have more fans here than the Titans. The Bills are a small market team. If they are ultimately forced to move to Los Angeles will you show more of their games because they have become more glamorous? Thanks for the support It was a little overstated I know, but their decision is ridiculous too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphyD Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Response to my email on showing Bills game: The Cowboys are in the NFC east, same as the Giants though. Plus Dallas has a load of interest in our area. Here is an explanation on the decision from our general manager, Jeff Whitson. the game was assigned to FOX23 by the FOX network. We can challenge them for a change, but we did not for the following reasons: 1. Albany is first and foremost a NY Giants market and therefore an NFC market in the mind of the NFL, which is why we air Eagles, Redskins and Cowboy games when we have a doubleheader or no Giants game on a single header weekend. 2. There is as much (if not more) interest in a Cowboy game than a Bills game due to a large number of Cowboys fans and NFC team interest...and yes...there are years of ratings to support that claim. Hope that helps. Here are a few places I've found that will be showing the game. Saratoga Bills Backers - Peabody's Phila Street in Saratoga www.saratogabbbackers.com. The Albany Bills Backers club is listed as meeting at ARC Sports Bar: 1013 8th Ave. Watervliet, NY. I waiting for confirmation on that one as it is a 2005 listing. Rich Becker Sports Director FOX23 28 Corporate Circle Albany, NY 12203 w)518-862-2323 c)518-461-0034 e)richbecker@fox23news.com "No One Brings You Closer To The Game Than FOX23 Sports" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphyD Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Response to my email on showing Bills game: The Cowboys are in the NFC east, same as the Giants though. Plus Dallas has a load of interest in our area. Here is an explanation on the decision from our general manager, Jeff Whitson. the game was assigned to FOX23 by the FOX network. We can challenge them for a change, but we did not for the following reasons: 1. Albany is first and foremost a NY Giants market and therefore an NFC market in the mind of the NFL, which is why we air Eagles, Redskins and Cowboy games when we have a doubleheader or no Giants game on a single header weekend. 2. There is as much (if not more) interest in a Cowboy game than a Bills game due to a large number of Cowboys fans and NFC team interest...and yes...there are years of ratings to support that claim. Hope that helps. Here are a few places I've found that will be showing the game. Saratoga Bills Backers - Peabody's Phila Street in Saratoga www.saratogabbbackers.com. The Albany Bills Backers club is listed as meeting at ARC Sports Bar: 1013 8th Ave. Watervliet, NY. I waiting for confirmation on that one as it is a 2005 listing. Rich Becker Sports Director FOX23 28 Corporate Circle Albany, NY 12203 w)518-862-2323 c)518-461-0034 e)richbecker@fox23news.com "No One Brings You Closer To The Game Than FOX23 Sports" 790973[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphyD Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 790986[/snapback] Need to start sending some email to the manager = Jeff Whitson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Both the on-screen guide on my TV and the WXXA website say the game is TBA. Have any of you heard if it will be shown? I'm getting a new HD plasma TV tomorrow and I'd love to see the game at home. 789184[/snapback] not in the albany area sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Come to my house in Northern NY, I have a great line up this week. WWNY, 1 PM: Colts vs. Jets WNYF, 1 PM: Minn. vs. Bills WWNY, 4 PM: N.E. vs. Cin WSTM, 8 PM: S.S. vs. Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGTEleven Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Response to my email on showing Bills game: The Cowboys are in the NFC east, same as the Giants though. Plus Dallas has a load of interest in our area. Here is an explanation on the decision from our general manager, Jeff Whitson. the game was assigned to FOX23 by the FOX network. We can challenge them for a change, but we did not for the following reasons: 1. Albany is first and foremost a NY Giants market and therefore an NFC market in the mind of the NFL, which is why we air Eagles, Redskins and Cowboy games when we have a doubleheader or no Giants game on a single header weekend. 2. There is as much (if not more) interest in a Cowboy game than a Bills game due to a large number of Cowboys fans and NFC team interest...and yes...there are years of ratings to support that claim. Hope that helps. Here are a few places I've found that will be showing the game. Saratoga Bills Backers - Peabody's Phila Street in Saratoga www.saratogabbbackers.com. The Albany Bills Backers club is listed as meeting at ARC Sports Bar: 1013 8th Ave. Watervliet, NY. I waiting for confirmation on that one as it is a 2005 listing. Rich Becker Sports Director FOX23 28 Corporate Circle Albany, NY 12203 w)518-862-2323 c)518-461-0034 e)richbecker@fox23news.com "No One Brings You Closer To The Game Than FOX23 Sports" 790973[/snapback] I got the same insulting BS reply. Here is my response: Thanks for the reply. It makes very little sense but thanks for taking the time (seriously….you didn’t have to reply...thanks for responding). The Cowboys simply do not have anywhere near the local following of the Bills. It was interesting you found the Bills backers clubs so easily. If the Cowboys have such a big following I wonder if their backers clubs are easily found as well. The Dallas/Titans game was as captivating as expected.. Did you switch to the Saints/Panthers game at the end because, like the Cowboys, the Panthers have more local fans than the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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