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Presumeably because I am biased, but to me, the defensive back instigated contact rather than Reed, although I am sure Reed would have eventually. So why

wasn't defensive interference called rather than offensive.

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Presumeably because I am biased, but to me, the defensive back instigated  contact rather than Reed, although I am sure Reed would have eventually. So why

wasn't defensive interference called rather than offensive.

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A DB can make contact with an offensive player within 5 yards of the LoS. That would be my guess as to why there would be no defensive pass interference.

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A DB can make contact with an offensive player within 5 yards of the LoS.  That would be my guess as to why there would be no defensive pass interference.

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Not while the ball is in the air i don't believe. Once the ball is in the air the DB cannot make contact with a WR.

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Reed was trying to redeem himself from the series before. he gave up on a block and the DB caught WM from behind when it looked like WM was going to break one. You could see Reed angry with himself after the play. so I think he got a little over zealous on that play.

 

It was pass interference. You cannot block on the D backfield until the ball is caught (or tipped)

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Kelso made a point... Wasn't it behind the line of scrimmage?  How can it be pass interference... Wouldn't it be a block?

 

I didn't see the play... Just heard the call... Was it a pick play?

 

And my recollection of the play is foggy...

 

<_<

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I think Kelso was saying it was technically not a pass but a lateral, therefore PI was not applicable.

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It was pass interference. You cannot block on the D backfield until the ball is caught (or tipped)

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That is true, but that call doesn't make sense to me. If it was an illegal block downfield or something I could understand, but why PI? Reed and the DB ran into each other (yes, it was designed, but that's still what happened), why wouldn't it be PI on the DB as well?

 

I think the result was correct. He blocked the defender a second before he was supposed to, so the play got called back. I just thought it was strange that it was called pass interference.

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It was caught behind the line of scrimmage, but was nowhere near a lateral. LOS was just outside the 15; Losman threw from the 23; Parrish made the reception at the 17. Reed definitely makes contact with the Miami DB (at the 12) while the ball is in the air... but that doesn't matter anyway. From the NFL Digest of Rules:

It is pass interference by either team when any player movement beyond the line of scrimmage significantly hinders the progress of an eligible player of such player’s opportunity to catch the ball. Offensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is snapped until the ball is touched.

 

(Further down) Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

 

If Reed had made contact behind the line of scrimmage, it would've been a touchdown:

Note 4: There can be no pass interference at or behind the line of scrimmage, but defensive actions such as tackling a receiver can still result in a 5-yard penalty for defensive holding, if accepted.

But since he was downfield, it's an easy call for the officials to make.

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It was caught behind the line of scrimmage, but was nowhere near a lateral. LOS was just outside the 15; Losman threw from the 23; Parrish made the reception at the 17. Reed definitely makes contact with the Miami DB (at the 12) while the ball is in the air... but that doesn't matter anyway. From the NFL Digest of Rules:

If Reed had made contact behind the line of scrimmage, it would've been a touchdown:

 

But since he was downfield, it's an easy call for the officials to make.

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huh? your saying that if Reed made contact behind the line of scrimmage it would not be PI ... well duh ... but what WR do you know, would take a step back and wait for the DB to come to him, and then block? The fact is that if it was a screen to McGahee behind the line of scrimmage (as it was) and Reed makes that same block I bet it doesnt get called. I think the ref just blew the call. He saw a receiver catch a ball and he saw Reed block the defender. Yet you watch Westbrook catch the ball behind the line of scrimmage and his WR's are already blocking downfield.

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It was caught behind the line of scrimmage, but was nowhere near a lateral. LOS was just outside the 15; Losman threw from the 23; Parrish made the reception at the 17. Reed definitely makes contact with the Miami DB (at the 12) while the ball is in the air... but that doesn't matter anyway. From the NFL Digest of Rules:

If Reed had made contact behind the line of scrimmage, it would've been a touchdown:

 

But since he was downfield, it's an easy call for the officials to make.

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Nicely done.

 

That rule, no PI behind the LOS, is why defensive lineman can haul down a RB who is trying to slide into position for a screen. That is one of the reasons why it can be very difficult to pull off a decent screen pass, especially a middle screen.

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I really wish you would stop making sense. :angry:

 

I hated the call but is was the right call (unless Reed was a Patriot).

 

It was caught behind the line of scrimmage, but was nowhere near a lateral. LOS was just outside the 15; Losman threw from the 23; Parrish made the reception at the 17. Reed definitely makes contact with the Miami DB (at the 12) while the ball is in the air... but that doesn't matter anyway. From the NFL Digest of Rules:

If Reed had made contact behind the line of scrimmage, it would've been a touchdown:

 

But since he was downfield, it's an easy call for the officials to make.

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Kelso made a point... Wasn't it behind the line of scrimmage?  How can it be pass interference... Wouldn't it be a block?

 

I didn't see the play... Just heard the call... Was it a pick play?

 

And my recollection of the play is foggy...

 

:angry:

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Because the pass went forwards, the WR cannot make contact with the DB downfield until the ball is caught. My team got called on this A LOT in preseason when we ran the exact same bubble screen as the Bills ran. The hardest thing is getting the timing right to get the ball in the hands of the WR and the other WR making the block.

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One of the original questions still begs to be answered:

 

Is it simply a judgment call by the official as to who instigates the contact? B/C it does seem that Reed is holding off charging into the DB and the DB makes the contact with Reed.

 

Anyone answer that?

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