LabattBlue Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 Good post, but I need to disagree with you on two things: 1. I think JP's performance does merit a rating of 86. 86 is a decent rating, nothing great, nothing bad. That was his performance. He did some good things, but he didn't do anything disastrous (and the safety, as I've said before, was a complete team effort). I give him a little more credit than you do. 2. The we need to do better stat. For me, by far and away it's: 41-183-4.5...rushing attempts, yards, and yards-per-carry for the Pats. We need to do much, much better or this will be a long season. Coming into this year, my biggest worry was our run defense. That didn't do much to allay my fear. 769888[/snapback] Sorry... did not see your post regarding the poor run defense before posting my reply above. We agree!
bartshan-83 Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 I got one for you: 2 - the number of times I wished Antoine Winfield was back on the Bills as both McGee and Greer shot by their WR on a quick pass. Man that guy could tackle...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2006 Author Posted September 11, 2006 The Pat gained 180+ yards rushing averaging over 4.8 ypc(minus Brady's kneel downs at the end of the game). The defense had it's moments, but you won't win many games giving up that many rushing yards or that kind of ypc average. 770013[/snapback] You do when you only give up 17 points and you score 7 yourself.
The Dean Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 I got one for you: 2 - the number of times I wished Antoine Winfield was back on the Bills as both McGee and Greer shot by their WR on a quick pass. Man that guy could tackle... 770029[/snapback] Just 2? I think I counted at least 6 times I wished for Winfield.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2006 Author Posted September 11, 2006 Good post, but I need to disagree with you on two things: 1. I think JP's performance does merit a rating of 86. 86 is a decent rating, nothing great, nothing bad. That was his performance. He did some good things, but he didn't do anything disastrous (and the safety, as I've said before, was a complete team effort). I give him a little more credit than you do. 2. The we need to do better stat. For me, by far and away it's: 41-183-4.5...rushing attempts, yards, and yards-per-carry for the Pats. We need to do much, much better or this will be a long season. Coming into this year, my biggest worry was our run defense. That didn't do much to allay my fear. 769888[/snapback] 1. I am as big a JP fan and supporter as there is here I think, but still try to look at him and his game objectively. That's why I put "relatively" in quotes. For how he has played previously, for his youth, for the position he was put in yesterday, you're right. He played about an 86.1, and a little better than I gave him credit for. But I was thinking more along the lines of ANY quarterback that had that game versus JP Losman that had that game. And I don't think it was an 86.1 but more like a 75.9. We need to get the ball in the endzone. We need to get the ball downfield. We need to pick up some first downs in the fourth period that put the game away whether they are difficult or not. We need to protect the ball and the endzone a little more. We need to find ways to get the ball in our playmakers hands. He didn't throw an INT, he didn't play dumb, he did a lot of things quite well. He was good for JP but not good for QB and I think we have to look at his play on parallel levels, not just the he's young and raw level. 2. We surely have to stop the run better and that could easily have been the we need to do better stat. This was a tough test. I watched Maroney in college a little and a lot this pre-season and he is a stud. We had to protect our young guys a little too much and that allowed them IMO to take advantage in the run game.
Pyrite Gal Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 1. Most important stat: 0-1 769741[/snapback] This post was way cool and I hope you make it a regular feature!
I 90 Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 But I was thinking more along the lines of ANY quarterback that had that game versus JP Losman that had that game. And I don't think it was an 86.1 but more like a 75.9. 770046[/snapback] I'd rather have you assign a KTFBD rating than go with the quarterback rating. What if they had two more rushing touchdowns on drives he led ? Same rating. It is just nuts. But I'd bump him to 87 for the snap over the head 20 yarder to Josh Reed of all people. When is that ever going to happen ? Worthy of a bonus. .
cåblelady Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 I am not going to respond, except to say that this was far and away your best post ever on TBD. 769773[/snapback] Agreed. AWESOME job! KTD.
Rubes Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 1. I am as big a JP fan and supporter as there is here I think, but still try to look at him and his game objectively. That's why I put "relatively" in quotes. For how he has played previously, for his youth, for the position he was put in yesterday, you're right. He played about an 86.1, and a little better than I gave him credit for. But I was thinking more along the lines of ANY quarterback that had that game versus JP Losman that had that game. And I don't think it was an 86.1 but more like a 75.9. We need to get the ball in the endzone. We need to get the ball downfield. We need to pick up some first downs in the fourth period that put the game away whether they are difficult or not. We need to protect the ball and the endzone a little more. We need to find ways to get the ball in our playmakers hands. He didn't throw an INT, he didn't play dumb, he did a lot of things quite well. He was good for JP but not good for QB and I think we have to look at his play on parallel levels, not just the he's young and raw level. 2. We surely have to stop the run better and that could easily have been the we need to do better stat. This was a tough test. I watched Maroney in college a little and a lot this pre-season and he is a stud. We had to protect our young guys a little too much and that allowed them IMO to take advantage in the run game. 770046[/snapback] I'll buy that...and I'll also chime in that it was a very entertaining post. Keep it up through the year!
Fan in San Diego Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Great post ! Me likes this weekly feature !
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