SilverNRed Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Whitner damn near won the game for us there. And Simpson did a nice job filling in when Vincent got injured. Marv's draft looked pretty good today. The young players didn't lose the game for us today. It was mistakes by veterans that ended up killing us.
/dev/null Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 wouldn't surprise me if Whitner and Ko start the rest of the season
Thailog80 Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 wouldn't surprise me if Whitner and Ko start the rest of the season 767799[/snapback] No arguments here.
YOOOOOO Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Wire looked terrible and got yanked quick early..... Whitner looks like a player...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 wouldn't surprise me if Whitner and Ko start the rest of the season Well Whitner will. Simpson might by default if Vincent is out for awhile, but he looks like he is ready anyway.
SACKMARINO Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Wire looked terrible and got yanked quick early.....Whitner looks like a player... 767805[/snapback] was there ever any doubt?
/dev/null Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Simpson might by default if Vincent is out for awhile 767806[/snapback] we won't know how bad TV is hurt, but it wouldn't surprise me that even if he's not that bad they list him as questionable and start Ko
BillsGuyInMalta Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Well Whitner will. Simpson might by default if Vincent is out for awhile, but he looks like he is ready anyway. 767806[/snapback] Here's hoping. They both looked great today, the sooner we rotate them in as starters...the better.
bluv Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 wouldn't surprise me if Whitner and Ko start the rest of the season 767799[/snapback] I like that as well. I think Coy and Troy needed to be cut anyway
outsidethebox Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Here's hoping. They both looked great today, the sooner we rotate them in as starters...the better. 767826[/snapback] Why is Coy Wire on the team? Someone please explain that to me.
VABills Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 It was nice to see Witner get the pick. But overall they got worked by the TE's and were a non-factor in run support. Overall they looked like rookies and have a long way to go.
MDH Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Why is Coy Wire on the team? Someone please explain that to me. 767841[/snapback] They couldn't go into the season with only 1 healthy SS on the team.
bluv Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 It was nice to see Witner get the pick. But overall they got worked by the TE's and were a non-factor in run support. Overall they looked like rookies and have a long way to go. 767842[/snapback] How is that; the LBs got worked over on a few plays but over all over Run D lost this game. The secondary played a pretty good game as they held Brady in check and got an int. In the 2nd half the pass rush slowed down a bit. I was actually encouraged by their play.
VABills Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 How is that; the LBs got worked over on a few plays but over all over Run D lost this game. The secondary played a pretty good game as they held Brady in check and got an int. In the 2nd half the pass rush slowed down a bit. I was actually encouraged by their play. 767936[/snapback] The safeties got worked a lot in the 4th quarter on those long TE seam routes. That helped NE run the clock. In addition to our inability to stop the run.
bluv Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 The safeties got worked a lot in the 4th quarter on those long TE seam routes. That helped NE run the clock. In addition to our inability to stop the run. 767954[/snapback] The Pats got 2 seam passes: the one to Watson after the stop on 4th and 1 after he blew by Fletcher and split the safeties and the 4th quarter pass in which Simpson was in the deep middle. Other than that they were fine as Vincent and Wire probably wouldn't have faired much better. If the Pats didn't have success running the ball OR we had converted that 4th and 1 and went up 24-7, the running game would have been an afterthought and our guys would have been able to pin their ears back and bust Brady up like they did in the 1st half.
BillnutinHouston Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 It was nice to see Witner get the pick. But overall they got worked by the TE's and were a non-factor in run support. Overall they looked like rookies and have a long way to go. 767842[/snapback] VA, for once I agree with you.
BoondckCL Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 It was nice to see Witner get the pick. But overall they got worked by the TE's and were a non-factor in run support. Overall they looked like rookies and have a long way to go. 767842[/snapback] I agree as well. Whitner is a rather small safety and does look like a rookie. He has to learn the techniques needed to ignore his small size and still make plays. Teams are going to try to isolate him one on one with tight ends for the rest of the season and he has to learn how to use his quickness and speed as a way of beating them. Ko Simpson on the other hand was great at stopping ball carriers after they made the catch or they were already down field. I have no doubt in Simpson's ability as a player, but the pass to Rache Caldwell was clearly his fault. He was supposed to have inside support on that play after the corner was beat and he was late on the coverage. Ultimately made the stop, but late on the coverage. I hope that these two get starts down the road, but this team is not ready for four defensive starters this early in the season. I could see starting Whitner because Coy just sucks, but you have to keep the experience of Troy Vincent in there for a few more weeks until someone else (Whitner) learns how to be the leader in the secondary.
bluv Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 VA, for once I agree with you. 768070[/snapback] I'll agree with the non factor in run game but Brady only completed 11 passes and at no point got into a passing rhythm; I can see if Brady was picking us apart with efficecny. I mean he throw a pick in the 4th quarter by Whitner that if it wasn't for questionable block and play stoppage, he'd be on ESPN right now and all those guys would be saying what a genius pick by Marv. If our run D was more discipline and stayed in their lanes and our offense didn't become conservative, there is no way we lose this game. I mean for their first action they played very well; you can't expect them to be Pro Bowlers right out the gate.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 This is a rebuilding year. The Bills should play as many worthy rookies as possible early.
VABills Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 I'll agree with the non factor in run game but Brady only completed 11 passes and at no point got into a passing rhythm; I can see if Brady was picking us apart with efficecny. I mean he throw a pick in the 4th quarter by Whitner that if it wasn't for questionable block and play stoppage, he'd be on ESPN right now and all those guys would be saying what a genius pick by Marv. If our run D was more discipline and stayed in their lanes and our offense didn't become conservative, there is no way we lose this game. I mean for their first action they played very well; you can't expect them to be Pro Bowlers right out the gate. 768088[/snapback] Well there was 2 long and one mid range pass to the TE's. The incomplete in the endzone to Graham was also bad coverage. Finally Simpson had the inside on the long pass to Caldwell. Otherall in the second half that was 5 of the key plays and our Safeties chocked on all of them. In addition, they were non-existant in run support, so overall 1 pick and a poor game otherwise.
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