Guest dog14787 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I honestly think we have a diamond in the rough with J.P Losman guys. In this day and age it is rough out there, J.P. has the athletic ability, The arm strength , the smarts , and the right work ethic to truly be something special. Put all the speed and weapons at his disposal on the Bill's Offensive side of the ball, and the Bill's could be awful nasty to opposing defenses this year. Can we beat New England this weekend? I think it's possible and the game will be much closer than the point spread indicates. Bufallo 31 New England 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuile Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 If nothing else, J.P. deserves one more year to prove himself. His two major issues were getting the ball on target and avoding sacks. I think he has improve on both fronts this offseason. I think he has faith in his skills without being cocky, an issue you will remember he had coming out of college. If they use his running skills the right way, the Pats will have major issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 He still needs help from his OL, the comitment by the coaches to the running-game and for the Defense to play solid..... With these comes confidence and with that the ability to complete a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I have not changed my signature line for a LONG time. I have thought all through last year that JP will be good, given time. Just be patient with him and we will be happy with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 If nothing else, J.P. deserves one more year to prove himself. His two major issues were getting the ball on target and avoding sacks. I think he has improve on both fronts this offseason. I think he has faith in his skills without being cocky, an issue you will remember he had coming out of college. If they use his running skills the right way, the Pats will have major issues. 764996[/snapback] I think it should be more along the lines of he needs to play this full year. AND THEN prove himself in 2007. Then the jury will be out on JPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 He still needs help from his OL, the comitment by the coaches to the running-game and for the Defense to play solid..... With these comes confidence and with that the ability to complete a play. 765182[/snapback] JP needs to be able to put touch on his some of his passes, instead of always hurling fastballs. Also, he needs to act like a professional in the huddle AND on the sidelines. As much as I agree with your list of needs, I think mine are just as important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I think it should be more along the lines of he needs to play this full year. AND THEN prove himself in 2007. Then the jury will be out on JPL. 765607[/snapback] I disagree. Only 2 more years? Why not give him at least 8-10 years to prove that he can play. Why the rush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Why the rush? 765610[/snapback] You tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 You tell me. 765614[/snapback] We are on the same page. I say give him the rest of his life if need be to prove that he can lead us to victory. Hey, we have some cap space....why not extend him now to a 7 or 8 year deal for Manning money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 We are on the same page. I say give him the rest of his life if need be to prove that he can lead us to victory. Hey, we have some cap space....why not extend him now to a 7 or 8 year deal for Manning money? 765619[/snapback] Nice insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 In 2004 the kid threw 5 passes. Last year he played in 8 games (correct me if I'm wrong). I can't see how any qb, other than Rothlesberger could be considered a true franchise savior with out the time under his belt. Last year regardless, IF Mularkey and Donahoe wanted to save face by playing noodle arm they should've stuck with JPL (for developmental reasons). But, yeah you're right he should be paid "Manning money" for 10 years or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Nice insight. 765621[/snapback] My real point is simple. Neither of us can set a time table on how long a leash JP should be given. So far, when it counts, he has been nothing short of a complete flop. Paint it any way you want; blame whomever you choose, but it is true. An utter flop who cost us a 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks. That said, he finally won the job, and this is a not good, but a great thing!!! As the season plays on, I will not totally judge JP by the wins/losses. To do so would be unfair. I want to see some composure, maturity, and professionalism. We both already know that he has the God given tools. Otoh, I am not, as a Bills Fan, willing to hand him a blank check, nor a pass of sorts. JP needs to come out NOW and do his job. He needs to prove himself to the fans and most of all, his fellow Bills players. I really am as excited as you to see how well he can play, but I do feel entitled as a Bills Fan to the things that I listed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 My real point is simple. Neither of us can set a time table on how long a leash JP should be given. So far, when it counts, he has been nothing short of a complete flop. Paint it any way you want; blame whomever you choose, but it is true. An utter flop who cost us a 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks. That said, he finally won the job, and this is a not good, but a great thing!!! As the season plays on, I will not totally judge JP by the wins/losses. To do so would be unfair. I want to see some composure, maturity, and professionalism. We both already know that he has the God given tools. Otoh, I am not, as a Bills Fan, willing to hand him a blank check, nor a pass of sorts. JP needs to come out NOW and do his job. He needs to prove himself to the fans and most of all, his fellow Bills players. I really am as excited as you to see how well he can play, but I do feel entitled as a Bills Fan to the things that I listed above. 765629[/snapback] Alright then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 JP needs to be able to put touch on his some of his passes, instead of always hurling fastballs. Also, he needs to act like a professional in the huddle AND on the sidelines. As much as I agree with your list of needs, I think mine are just as important. 765609[/snapback] Yeah, your list is important. I've heard that JP likes to tell fart jokes in the huddle. How unprofessional can you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuile Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I would like to know how well he prepares. I am not asking him to live in the film room like Peyton, but he needs to study hard what he might see because he plays against two master mind coaches in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 All indications are he's preparing well, taking to coaching well, and responding to every challenge. I've not seen anything from any of the other QBs that would indicate we're in better hands with anyone other than JP. And the vital, vital component here seems to be something we FINALLY have after years of dreadful play-calling: an offensive coordinator who calls smart plays and will maximize the potential of his personnel -- not someone with a system that calls for no adjustments whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Guy Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I honestly think we have a diamond in the rough with J.P Losman guys. In this day and age it is rough out there, J.P. has the athletic ability, The arm strength , the smarts , and the right work ethic to truly be something special. Put all the speed and weapons at his disposal on the Bill's Offensive side of the ball, and the Bill's could be awful nasty to opposing defenses this year. Can we beat New England this weekend? I think it's possible and the game will be much closer than the point spread indicates. Bufallo 31 New England 24 764986[/snapback] Definately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yeah, your list is important. I've heard that JP likes to tell fart jokes in the huddle. How unprofessional can you get? 765648[/snapback] Heard of it done alot before going into battle, ( joking a bit ) relax your men, put them in the right frame of mind. After all, it is a game isn't it , to have fun. I'm sure he's seriuos when he put's his blood and guts are on the line, like when he takes off with the ball, i'm sure the men around him are to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 An utter flop who cost us a 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks. Ok, maybe it's just me but it drives me nuts when people say JP cost us a 1st, 2nd and 5th round pick. Let's do the math... We gave up the next years 1st round for a later round 1st round that year. Kind of a wash. We really only gave up 2 picks, because we got a pick with J.P. Ok, rant over:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 You can do it!!!!!!!!! JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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