Kevbeau Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Nope. Canada actually buys F/A-18s from Boeing. Maybe some Canadian company still makes light cargo jets, but the last premire military plane made in Canada was the Arrow, 40 years ago...good plane, would've succeeded if it were built in a country that could've afforded it. 764542[/snapback] Bombardier is the only manufacturer that comes to mind. However, I think they just compete in the regional/business jet market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Bombardier is the only manufacturer that comes to mind. However, I think they just compete in the regional/business jet market. 765160[/snapback] and they make sick boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Since when, a lot of parts come from all over. Assembled here but common, even hardware is outsourced. What about those Japanese or Chinese machine screws that were found to be defective a few years ago. There are other examples out there, I just put my fingers on them right now. 764935[/snapback] true the smaller parts come from overseas. but the finished product and the higher level components like navigation, weapons syststems, and fuselage (sic?) are manufactured by US companies with employees who are US citizens (a requirement of the necessary security clearance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Quebecers don't really like anyone according to studies, polls and other biased uninformed research. But come to the province and you'll get a totally different view. And ya, the shooting at our military is starting to tick some people off. 764516[/snapback] Um... yeah. It's called "combat" and it sucks. I'm not saying the US hasn't been negligent in a few cases of friendly fire (hell we do it to ourselves sometimes... see "Pat Tillman), but it's not as thought it is done on purpose. When humans are engaged in deadly combat they sometimes make quick decisions for fear of their life, which often turn out to be the wrong ones. The military takes friendly fire seriously and usually does everything within its power to avoid it. Unfortunately, not all mistakes can be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Um... yeah. It's called "combat" and it sucks. I'm not saying the US hasn't been negligent in a few cases of friendly fire (hell we do it to ourselves sometimes... see "Pat Tillman), but it's not as thought it is done on purpose. When humans are engaged in deadly combat they sometimes make quick decisions for fear of their life, which often turn out to be the wrong ones. The military takes friendly fire seriously and usually does everything within its power to avoid it. Unfortunately, not all mistakes can be avoided. 765807[/snapback] More accurately: combat is controlled chaos. Chaos, by it's very nature, tends to be chaotic (thus, "chaos"). And when you have enough people shooting enough sh-- in a confused situation, some of it's going to hit the wrong people, whether it's "collateral damage" or "friendly fire". As much as the Pentagon likes to pretend it can be eliminated completely...it can't. It can be mitigated by training, training, and more training, but it'll never go away. It's a natural part of battlefield friction. In WWII, estimates of US friendly fire casualties were about 10% total casualties...in some theaters (Papua New Guinea, for example), as high as 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 When questioned on specifics I wonder how much of an effect the US support of Israel and the lack of support for suicide bombings have in the poll. Maybe the US would support Islamic interests in some situations if there was a reluctance by Islamic interests to off people for some wharped pleasure. What would happen if the US did not support Israel at all? Think about it. We all have our grievances but most of us choose to refrain from eliminating innocents and resorting to violence. I know Quebec has a large Muslim population. I wonder where their allegiance lies, with Canada or Islam? Nevermind, I don't wonder. As for the accidents involving the Canadian troops, I do regret their loss and I do appreciate their sacrifice. However, I doubt many Canadians can imagine what burden the United States has to shoulder in trying to help resolve conflicts that are so complex and in many case unresolvable. Of course, many mistakes are made and will be made. Canada can get away with taking some less hostile positions as long as someone like the US takes the responsibility of playing hardball. It is not an easy responsibility. And of course the US has it's own special interests. Every nation does. I have been to Montreal many times and the people are pretty cool. Yes, there exists the same social problems as in the US but life seems less hostile than in many US cities. Criticism of the US seems to be a Canadian sport that I have endured for many years (Canadian relatives). I am used to it. It comes with the turf. Meazza: I am sorry to hear about the tragedy at Dawson. They locked your post from yesterday. It is great to live and visit in Montreal. It is especially great to be young and a college student in Montreal. That nut jub's full history has yet to come out but I doubt there was much that could be done to stop his agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I know Quebec has a large Muslim population. I wonder where their allegiance lies, with Canada or Islam? Nevermind, I don't wonder. As for the accidents involving the Canadian troops, I do regret their loss and I do appreciate their sacrifice. However, I doubt many Canadians can imagine what burden the United States has to shoulder in trying to help resolve conflicts that are so complex and in many case unresolvable. Of course, many mistakes are made and will be made. Canada can get away with taking some less hostile positions as long as someone like the US takes the responsibility of playing hardball. It is not an easy responsibility. And of course the US has it's own special interests. Every nation does. I used to have an "anti-US" stance but this was when I was younger and didn't really look at the facts. I have been to Montreal many times and the people are pretty cool. Yes, there exists the same social problems as in the US but life seems less hostile than in many US cities. Criticism of the US seems to be a Canadian sport that I have endured for many years (Canadian relatives). I am used to it. It comes with the turf. Being the most powerful country in the world... like you said it comes with the turf. I just think a lot of Canadians don't like the anti-Canada approach that many Americans seem to have, given that you know, we are their biggest trading partners. The ignorance goes both ways though. Meazza: I am sorry to hear about the tragedy at Dawson. They locked your post from yesterday. It is great to live and visit in Montreal. It is especially great to be young and a college student in Montreal. That nut jub's full history has yet to come out but I doubt there was much that could be done to stop his agenda. 773445[/snapback] Actually I locked it because I didn't really appreciate some of the comments. A shooting at a school becomes a debate about banning guns. As if it changes anything. Just as all the ultra-liberals in Canada are using this incident as a reason to completely ban guns. It doesn't really change anything if you ask me. I know a few people who were there at the time of the shooting, and it is weird because that cafeteria was a second home to me for 3 years. Now they are blaming the tv, movies, video games and goth movement when in most probabilities, this guy was just a sick mother!@#$er who is hopefully rotting in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 A shooting at a school becomes a debate about banning guns. As if it changes anything. Just as all the ultra-liberals in Canada are using this incident as a reason to completely ban guns. It doesn't really change anything if you ask me. 773472[/snapback] Wow. That was an insightful, intelligent point. Who are you, and what'd you do with that idiot meazza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Wow. That was an insightful, intelligent point. Who are you, and what'd you do with that idiot meazza? 773497[/snapback] lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Wow. That was an insightful, intelligent point. Who are you, and what'd you do with that idiot meazza? 773497[/snapback] i wonder if he found the missing link between the speed of sound and the speed of light, thus opening a portal into a parallel dimension and switched places with his goatee'd counterpart, Evil Meazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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