Risin Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE BAN THIS PIECE OF stevestojan'S AV PLEASE!!!! Truely tasteless. You are a real class act Risin. 55339[/snapback] Ban me for my avatar? Class act, after reading your screen name, I'll consider the source. I have an address and phone number if you'd like to call me a piece of stevestojan to my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 It was 4th down anyway. Given how the play was blown (apparently by Henry), he wasn't going to make the first down so what is the difference? The Pats would have had the ball at about the 25 yard line with 2 minutes left and we had only one time out. Best case scenario is we hold them 3 and out and get the ball back with no timeouts, less than a minute to play and needing to go about 75 yards to tie it. Bledsoe had a mistake or two today but he also made some great passes and was smart with the football. What few mistakes he had pale in comparison to: Henry falling on 3rd and 2 with a gaping hole in front of him. Baker jumping off sides on the FG attempt that gave the Pats a TD. Moulds dropping one pass and drawing a 15 yard PF. Henry blowing the 4th down play on the fake handoff. Wire getting burned repeatedly. Fletcher's two PF's. Smith's holding call on a 3rd and one that we had made deep in Pat territory. Reed dropping what would have been a first down pass on 3rd and whatever. Coaches calling a naked bootleg for Drew. Referees who blew several calls, most notably Dillon's second fumble and several late hits by the PATs that didn't draw flags. Drew is not the problem with this team. Stupid mistakes, a safety that might as well be invisible, zero pass rush and continued blown assignments on the O-line are killing us. At least once a game, our best players (Moulds, Fletcher and Henry) do something that hurts bad. Remember Moulds' fumble against the Jags? How many has he dropped this year? Twice yesterday he cut the wrong way, he drops another and pulls a 15 yard penalty. If your leaders are screwing up like that, what do you expect from guys like Baker and Smith? 55362[/snapback] Keep on making excuses for the guy...I'm sure it was the D's fault that once again the offense only scored 10 points...that's 3 TDs in 3 games...not good. Yeah, that's Wire's fault and its also because of zero pass rush that we can't score. And blaming dropped balls is just not thinking things through...there will be some drops in EVERY game by EVERY team (the Pats had many more drops than the Bills yesterday)...it's jus what happens, blaming a few drops on the total lack of production is just wrong. Every team and every QB has dropped balls each game, somehow people think these mean a lot more when its the Bills that drop balls. Overall the WRs caught the ball pretty well yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I agree Risin, you are truly a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE BAN THIS PIECE OF stevestojan'S AV PLEASE!!!! 55339[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I'd like to go back to the day when we blamed the center for all things offensive, since he's the guy that snaps on every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I am sick of "if's" with Drew. I want to hear did, will do and is doing 55098[/snapback] Drew has a lot of potential. just wait. Some day he will actually a TD from the red zone. maybe too bad, josh Reed isn't 15 feet tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I agree Risin, you are truly a class act. 55407[/snapback] I'm offended by the guy with a porn mustache in your avatar. Please remove it. Have any original thoughts, or do you just like to be a follower? Funny, nobody ever bitched about it before. Could it be nobody can answer my question regarding Drew, so they take issue with my avatar? You guys have sunk to a new level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 With everything that went wrong for whatever reason, the Bills were in it until Travis tripped over his own feet in front of a hole you could put a Hummer through on the 3-2. That killed them. there wouldn't have been any need for some screwed up 23 skiddoo double fake reverse screen pass flea flick back to bledsoe naked bootleg monstrosity of a play if he just walked 6 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 It was 4th down anyway. Given how the play was blown (apparently by Henry), he wasn't going to make the first down so what is the difference? The Pats would have had the ball at about the 25 yard line with 2 minutes left and we had only one time out. Best case scenario is we hold them 3 and out and get the ball back with no timeouts, less than a minute to play and needing to go about 75 yards to tie it. Bledsoe had a mistake or two today but he also made some great passes and was smart with the football. What few mistakes he had pale in comparison to: Henry falling on 3rd and 2 with a gaping hole in front of him. Baker jumping off sides on the FG attempt that gave the Pats a TD. Moulds dropping one pass and drawing a 15 yard PF. Henry blowing the 4th down play on the fake handoff. Wire getting burned repeatedly. Fletcher's two PF's. Smith's holding call on a 3rd and one that we had made deep in Pat territory. Reed dropping what would have been a first down pass on 3rd and whatever. Coaches calling a naked bootleg for Drew. Referees who blew several calls, most notably Dillon's second fumble and several late hits by the PATs that didn't draw flags. Drew is not the problem with this team. Stupid mistakes, a safety that might as well be invisible, zero pass rush and continued blown assignments on the O-line are killing us. At least once a game, our best players (Moulds, Fletcher and Henry) do something that hurts bad. Remember Moulds' fumble against the Jags? How many has he dropped this year? Twice yesterday he cut the wrong way, he drops another and pulls a 15 yard penalty. If your leaders are screwing up like that, what do you expect from guys like Baker and Smith? 55362[/snapback] Well stated Mickey. Let me reitterate that Coy fuggin' Wire cost us atleast 14 points alone (of course we knew that was going to happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Well stated Mickey. Let me reitterate that Coy fuggin' Wire cost us atleast 14 points alone (of course we knew that was going to happen) 55568[/snapback] He is a failed experiment, not big enough to be a LB, too big and slow to be in the secondary. Travares Tillman is playing for Carolina, do you know if he starts? He was drafted by us in the second round four years ago to be our safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Keep on making excuses for the guy...I'm sure it was the D's fault that once again the offense only scored 10 points...that's 3 TDs in 3 games...not good. Yeah, that's Wire's fault and its also because of zero pass rush that we can't score. And blaming dropped balls is just not thinking things through...there will be some drops in EVERY game by EVERY team (the Pats had many more drops than the Bills yesterday)...it's jus what happens, blaming a few drops on the total lack of production is just wrong. Every team and every QB has dropped balls each game, somehow people think these mean a lot more when its the Bills that drop balls. Overall the WRs caught the ball pretty well yesterday. 55405[/snapback] You kind of ignored the litany of mistakes yesterday that had nothing to do with Bledsoe that I listed so here they are again: Henry falling on 3rd and 2 with a gaping hole in front of him. Baker jumping off sides on the FG attempt that gave the Pats a TD. Moulds dropping one pass and drawing a 15 yard PF. Henry blowing the 4th down play on the fake handoff. Wire getting burned repeatedly. Fletcher's two PF's. Smith's holding call on a 3rd and one that we had made deep in Pat territory. Reed dropping what would have been a first down pass on 3rd and whatever. Coaches calling a naked bootleg for Drew. Referees who blew several calls, most notably Dillon's second fumble and several late hits by the PATs that didn't draw flags. Let me add: zero pass rush Bledsoe was not the problem yesterday. There were at least two drives that would have netted points if not for screwups by others. Quit shielding the guys goofing up by just blaiming it all on Bledsoe. If you elimenate the few mistakes he did make (overthrows, one to Reed and one to Neufeld) then he would basically have played an error free game. If we need our QB to play a perfect game to win, we aren't going to win. Look at the time Brady had to throw. He didn't make any plays with his feet so don't give me that "mobility" canard. He didn't have to because he had all day to just stand there and wait for the coverage to break down. Besides, the carping on Bledsoe is just so old already. The choice is Bledsoe or Mathews and that is an easy one. Mathews is no mystery, he is a known quantity. We all know that he sux to a certainty. If you really think Mathews could do better than that 250+ day Bledsoe had against the SB champions which include two bombs netting 10 points then you have crossed the line from "optimistic" to "delusional". Drew is all we have for the next 13 weeks so give it a rest. Lets complain about things we can actually change like getting more touches for Willis and cutting down on the penalties and other goofy mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 For our third game in a row I watched as our opponent's receivers went up for and made difficult catches on clutch downs while our remained perhaps the worst in the league at digging up catchable passes. The stat offered by the annoucing team was interesting- without the 13 (?) dropped passes entering the game Bledsoe would be the highest rated QB in the NFL right now, not to mention we'd have entered the game 2-0. And the guys from Stats who consider balls catchable are watching every other game, it's not like they use a different standard for Bledsoe. The truth is if you're inclined like a minority of Bills fans and a couple of blowhard radio personalities to ignore every other player on the field by assigning all things good or evil on the QB then you can somehow make a tortured and false argument that a QB change in Buffalo would improve the team. On the other hand, if you watch all the facets of the game and recognize the advances we've made in many areas of our team including the solid play at the QB position all year you can find positives across the board with the exclusion, as I said two weeks ago, of running back blocking/blitz pick-ups and safety coverage. We're fighting to get this offense flowing and all that is required is for our WRs to MAKE PLAYS on third downs instead of being part of the problem. The good news is that we can expect Moulds to get his act together as he has in past seasons and Evans might already be more reliable than Josh Reed. Two plays to the positve by our WRs and we'd be looking at an attractive record even with our liabilities in RB blocking and safety coverage. Milloy's return will go a good distance in helping with one, the other appears to be a weakenss we'll have to work around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 He is a failed experiment, not big enough to be a LB, too big and slow to be in the secondary. Travares Tillman is playing for Carolina, do you know if he starts? He was drafted by us in the second round four years ago to be our safety. 55587[/snapback] I'm not sure if he starts there but I know he sees a fair amount of playing time. All I can say is I can't wait til Milloy returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Every team and every QB has dropped balls each game, somehow people think these mean a lot more when its the Bills that drop balls. Overall the WRs caught the ball pretty well yesterday. 55405[/snapback] The Bills lead the NFL in dropped balls. The Pats WRs, like the Raiders the game before, went up on third downs multiple times to bring in poorly thrown Brady passes on critical downs. That's not happening for us. We're fighting to get ANY receiver to make a play on third down, and Moulds has been an overall dissapointment this season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Funny, nobody ever bitched about it before. Could it be nobody can answer my question regarding Drew, so they take issue with my avatar? You guys have sunk to a new level... yeah, that's it. I'm bothered by your bledsoe post so I decided to mention that I think it is tasteless to have a picture of someone nearly dying as your avatar. As for my avatar, watch yourself or Borat will crush you. like stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 I'm not sure if he starts there but I know he sees a fair amount of playing time. All I can say is I can't wait til Milloy returns. 55675[/snapback] By that time, will it be too late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 yeah, that's it. I'm bothered by your bledsoe post so I decided to mention that I think it is tasteless to have a picture of someone nearly dying as your avatar. As for my avatar, watch yourself or Borat will crush you. like stalin. 55703[/snapback] Opinions are like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 For our third game in a row I watched as our opponent's receivers went up for and made difficult catches on clutch downs while our remained perhaps the worst in the league at digging up catchable passes. The stat offered by the annoucing team was interesting- without the 13 (?) dropped passes entering the game Bledsoe would be the highest rated QB in the NFL right now, not to mention we'd have entered the game 2-0. And the guys from Stats who consider balls catchable are watching every other game, it's not like they use a different standard for Bledsoe. The truth is if you're inclined like a minority of Bills fans and a couple of blowhard radio personalities to ignore every other player on the field by assigning all things good or evil on the QB then you can somehow make a tortured and false argument that a QB change in Buffalo would improve the team. On the other hand, if you watch all the facets of the game and recognize the advances we've made in many areas of our team including the solid play at the QB position all year you can find positives across the board with the exclusion, as I said two weeks ago, of running back blocking/blitz pick-ups and safety coverage. We're fighting to get this offense flowing and all that is required is for our WRs to MAKE PLAYS on third downs instead of being part of the problem. The good news is that we can expect Moulds to get his act together as he has in past seasons and Evans might already be more reliable than Josh Reed. Two plays to the positve by our WRs and we'd be looking at an attractive record even with our liabilities in RB blocking and safety coverage. Milloy's return will go a good distance in helping with one, the other appears to be a weakenss we'll have to work around. 55673[/snapback] I couldn't agree more. There is plenty of blame to be thrown around especially at the lack of desire by the Bills WR's. The complete lack of blocking by the RB's and the total failed experiment of Coy Wire are more of a reason the Bills are 0-3. Bledsoe is being thrown under the bus for the wrong reasons. He wouldn't have had any sacks yesterday if someone, anyone would pick up an OBVIOUS blitzer!! He made some pretty nice throws and stepped up in the pocket when he had to. The offense isn't moving the ball much this year but most of that blame can be spread to just about everyone except Bledsoe. Dumb penalties, dropped balls, wrong routes, fumbles and lack of RB blocking has more to do with the ineptitude of the offense than the QB position!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Drew is not the problem with this team. Stupid mistakes, a safety that might as well be invisible, zero pass rush and continued blown assignments on the O-line are killing us. At least once a game, our best players (Moulds, Fletcher and Henry) do something that hurts bad. Remember Moulds' fumble against the Jags? How many has he dropped this year? Twice yesterday he cut the wrong way, he drops another and pulls a 15 yard penalty. If your leaders are screwing up like that, what do you expect from guys like Baker and Smith? 55362[/snapback] Well said Mickey. Although the referees made their share of mistakes, the Bills shot themselves in the foot yesterday so many times that they have no one but themselves to blame. You can't make boners like the Bills did yesterday against a team as well coached as New England. Plus there is the added factor of New England being the "Ken Jennings" of the NFL. Jeopardy's tv ratings went up with the geek's streak, and IMO the Patriots will tend to get the breaks on the calls as long as their much-hyped winning streak continues. It benefits the NFL to have viewers tuning in to see if they can keep their streak going. IMO the game was lost when Jonas Jennings was knocked out by a cheap shot. Bledsoe wasn't getting any protection from that side of the line after that. Price is completely inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 First of all, I thought DB played well yesterday. However, the INT was his fault. He admitted so in his post-game news conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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