daquixers_is_back Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 For whatever reason I have never learned it ... what makes one player being cut cost us 1,000,000 in cap and another player being cut nothing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 For whatever reason I have never learned it ... what makes one player being cut cost us 1,000,000 in cap and another player being cut nothing?? 755422[/snapback] It all depends on how much guaranteed money (signing bonus, etc.) is still being owed (hypothetically since the entire bonus is payed up front, I believe) Since the player only gets payed his salary if he plays the season, if they are cut before the season, their salary doesn't count. The only thing that does is the signing bonus which can count against the cap all at once in the third year (not typically done cause it would raise your cap figure up high) or can be spread over the life of the contract in smaller increaments to make it more managable. If a player is cut from a team, whatever is remaining of the total bonus is then added to the cap that year. I believe this is how it works, but I haven't read or studied the CBA and its just what I have picked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It all depends on how much guaranteed money (signing bonus, etc.) is still being owed (hypothetically since the entire bonus is payed up front, I believe) Since the player only gets payed his salary if he plays the season, if they are cut before the season, their salary doesn't count. The only thing that does is the signing bonus which can count against the cap all at once in the third year (not typically done cause it would raise your cap figure up high) or can be spread over the life of the contract in smaller increaments to make it more managable. If a player is cut from a team, whatever is remaining of the total bonus is then added to the cap that year. I believe this is how it works, but I haven't read or studied the CBA and its just what I have picked up 755445[/snapback] Any time an NFL player is cut, his signing bonus is accelerated and the entire bonus counts immediately. Not just for the year he is cut, the entire bonus. Example: A player receives a 5 year/25 million dollar contract. His bonus is 10 million. Now, he is cut after year 3....6 million dollars of his bonus is already accounted for (10 mil divided by 5 years, times the 3 years he already played). The remaining bonus his would be 4 million (the other 2 years, which immediately counts), and the team would not be responsible toward the cap or otherwise for his salary. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Agh! ok . thanks for the clarification guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 A large bonus is risky to a team because if a player is a flop or gets injured, it can truly hurt the cap situation of a team, because they will be forced to carry dead cap space. Otoh, ufas and their agents insist on large bonuses because NFL contracts are not guaranteed, and signiing bonuses are theirs to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Any time an NFL player is cut, his signing bonus is accelerated and the entire bonus counts immediately. Not just for the year he is cut, the entire bonus. 755451[/snapback] Thats what I was trying to say, guess it didn't come out as clearly as I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Thats what I was trying to say, guess it didn't come out as clearly as I thought. 755502[/snapback] It probably did, and was more a reflection of my ability to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It probably did, and was more a reflection of my ability to comprehend. 755514[/snapback] I just reread what I posted and I did make a couple mistakes, it should say first season, not third when I talked about how a team can count the bouns all at once or spread it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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