MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 The offense carried the load last year. Yes and in a weak division. it wasn't enough to get them past the Broncos now, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 That's brutal by Petey. See below for a flotsam definition (why must he use such big words with the football crowd 1. the part of the wreckage of a ship and its cargo found floating on the water. Compare jetsam, lagan. 2. material or refuse floating on water. 3. useless or unimportant items; odds and ends. 4. a vagrant, penniless population: the flotsam of the city slums in medieval Europe. 754492[/snapback] Well, it is what it is. Our #2 WR will be somebody that is a street free agent that nobody else really wanted at even a reasonably price let alone the 4 yr $10 M contract he sign for OR a $9-10M guy that was being offered about half by Carolina and generally nobody wanted for a #3 with possibilities to be a #2 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 • Buffalo ($8.8 million under): The Pats aren't afraid to deal within the division, as they showed with Drew Bledsoe. But maybe the bomb Peerless Price caught from J.P. Losman the other night will make Marv Levy think he can get by with Lee Evans and flotsam at wideout. No fewer than four former second-round draft picks, with a combined 607 receptions/8260 yds/49 TD catches in their NFL careers, equals "flotsam"? Alllllllrighty then. I wouldn't rank the current crop of Bills WRs up there with the A. Reed / Lofton / Beebe era just yet, but I don't hate 'em, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I like deion branch I think hes a great wr, but we have far bigger needs then overpaying for a wr, especially at the risk of overpaying for branch causing us to lose lee evans or mcgahee or fletcher or clements in the future. Pass with prejiduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It's not their offense that will determine their fate, it's their defense. Always has been, always will be. But the lack of WR's will make a difference. Fortunately for them the division is still weak and it should be another division title for them. 754724[/snapback] I think their fate will be be determined by their kicker. Vinateri won MANY BIG Games for the Pats, and they replaced him with who? And people talk about the ? on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I didn't get as defensive about the comments as most in this thread. Maybe he overstated it a bit, but I don't think he is completely out of line. None of the receivers on our roster have proven anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I didn't get as defensive about the comments as most in this thread. Maybe he overstated it a bit, but I don't think he is completely out of line. None of the receivers on our roster have proven anything. 754974[/snapback] I disgaree. Peerless is a former 1000 yard reciever say what you want but thats one thousand yard season more then deion branch has had. I still believe michael vick will never have a 1000 yard wr, not because the receivers aren't good but because Michael Vick is not a competant passing qb. And Evans has branch smoked. I could compare it to branches first 2 years but it leans even heavier in favor of evans 2004 nwe | 9 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 35 454 13.0 4 2005 nwe | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 78 998 12.8 5 | 2004 buf | 16 | 5 85 17.0 0 | 48 843 17.6 9 | | 2005 buf | 16 | 4 38 9.5 0 | 48 743 15.5 7 | in 4 seasons branch has a grand total of 14 tds. Evans has 16 in 2 seasons. Not that Deion branch isnt a good receiver he's been money in the superbowls, but I definitly wouldnt take him over evans, and if peerless is even that mediocre receiver he was in atlanta he's a push with branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I disgaree. Peerless is a former 1000 yard reciever say what you want but thats one thousand yard season more then deion branch has had. I still believe michael vick will never have a 1000 yard wr, not because the receivers aren't good but because Michael Vick is not a competant passing qb. And Evans has branch smoked. I could compare it to branches first 2 years but it leans even heavier in favor of evans 2004 nwe | 9 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 35 454 13.0 4 2005 nwe | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 78 998 12.8 5 | 2004 buf | 16 | 5 85 17.0 0 | 48 843 17.6 9 | | 2005 buf | 16 | 4 38 9.5 0 | 48 743 15.5 7 | in 4 seasons branch has a grand total of 14 tds. Evans has 16 in 2 seasons. Not that Deion branch isnt a good receiver he's been money in the superbowls, but I definitly wouldnt take him over evans, and if peerless is even that mediocre receiver he was in atlanta he's a push with branch. 754976[/snapback] I was going to note Evans as the exception but he hasn't been a #1 yet. Peerless success was years ago with a different offense and QB. The jury is still out whether or not he can recapture any of his former magic. I don't think all too highly of Branch either, but that was never the point of my post. I don't think they should trade for Branch, a me type guy looking for a payday, but he is better than everyone on our roster outside of Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 who consumes more gross tonnage....A) option #1 B) option #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think their fate will be be determined by their kicker. Vinateri won MANY BIG Games for the Pats, and they replaced him with who? And people talk about the ? on the Bills. That as well. To hear some Patriots fans though, it's as if Vinatieri will be easy to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Funny thing is, I had no problem understanding "flotsam" (not that I agree with him, but I had to think for a minute about "wang." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 I didn't get as defensive about the comments as most in this thread. Maybe he overstated it a bit, but I don't think he is completely out of line. None of the receivers on our roster have proven anything. 754974[/snapback] INK, the reason a lot here get pissed at fata$$ is because he has blasted Marv and the Bills more than once since the firing of Old Whitey.....then he goes and pimps Donohoe by lecturing Bills fans that we should have been careful what we wished for when we applauded the firing of TD. wish I had some of the links, but I can tell you this, if you read them, you'd see just how harsh his writing tone was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 That's brutal by Petey. See below for a flotsam definition (why must he use such big words with the football crowd 1. the part of the wreckage of a ship and its cargo found floating on the water. Compare jetsam, lagan. 2. material or refuse floating on water. 3. useless or unimportant items; odds and ends. 4. a vagrant, penniless population: the flotsam of the city slums in medieval Europe. 754492[/snapback] ...most of which can ably describe your average "But enough about football, let's talk about Starbucks and field hockey" Peter King article, ironically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michbills Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but just stop reading Peter King. The guy has almost nothing pertinent to add to any football based discussion. It seems, at this point, he is merely spewing regurgitated headlines and making up the rest. When was the last time he provided any real insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 INK, the reason a lot here get pissed at fata$$ is because he has blasted Marv and the Bills more than once since the firing of Old Whitey.....then he goes and pimps Donohoe by lecturing Bills fans that we should have been careful what we wished for when we applauded the firing of TD. wish I had some of the links, but I can tell you this, if you read them, you'd see just how harsh his writing tone was. 755191[/snapback] I've read the insults. The last piece of "journalism" by itself is not terribley inflammatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but just stop reading Peter King. The guy has almost nothing pertinent to add to any football based discussion. It seems, at this point, he is merely spewing regurgitated headlines and making up the rest. When was the last time he provided any real insight? 755212[/snapback] Best post of the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 INK, the reason a lot here get pissed at fata$$ is because he has blasted Marv and the Bills more than once since the firing of Old Whitey.....then he goes and pimps Donohoe by lecturing Bills fans that we should have been careful what we wished for when we applauded the firing of TD. wish I had some of the links, but I can tell you this, if you read them, you'd see just how harsh his writing tone was. 755191[/snapback] I remember an article, but I don't want to find the link, where he graded the draft from five years ago, to which he said we had a good draft and that we were dumb for getting rid of TD basically. Somehow I'm sure he'll forget to point this out next year when he grades the 2002 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 I remember an article, but I don't want to find the link, where he graded the draft from five years ago, to which he said we had a good draft and that we were dumb for getting rid of TD basically. Somehow I'm sure he'll forget to point this out next year when he grades the 2002 draft. 755217[/snapback] exactly....thanks for no playoff team, TD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrixtonBill Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Eat my ass Peter King, BTW really looks like Romo will be taking over in Dallas pretty damn soon. 754495[/snapback] Ahhh, you must be one of the bitter FFLers who listened to Mr. Starbucks and drafted Danny Wuerrfel with your number 1 pick a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Ahhh, you must be one of the bitter FFLers who listened to Mr. Starbucks and drafted Danny Wuerrfel with your number 1 pick a few years ago. 755366[/snapback] Classic. Like any sports-opinion guy, King has his share of both hits and misses... and I'd have to say that one was a world-class, make-yourself-look-silly strikeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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