TheMadCap Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Maybe now the NFL will finally flush this turd... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2563551 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 one of the darkest moments of our franchise's history was acquiring him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 one of the darkest moments of our franchise's history was acquiring him 754307[/snapback] Johnson had all of the tools and talent. I wonder how good he could have been if we had an o-line to protect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Johnson had all of the tools and talent. I wonder how good he could have been if we had an o-line to protect him. 754319[/snapback] I used to think it was just our O-Line...but honestly...not to re-open old wounds...but we did win games with Flutie back there. AND Johnson still got sacked an insane amount of times when he went to other teams with stronger O-Lines than ours. Methinks Johnson just didnt have the brain for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 one of the darkest moments of our franchise's history was acquiring him 754307[/snapback] There were darker days then when the bills acquired a young QB with upside to possibly be the future leader of the team. If he was so bad, what can you say about Flutie? the guy couldn't even play good enough to make the coaches decission for them as to who should be the clear cut starter, and could't go on to start for anyone else afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I used to think it was just our O-Line...but honestly...not to re-open old wounds...but we did win games with Flutie back there. AND Johnson still got sacked an insane amount of times when he went to other teams with stronger O-Lines than ours. Methinks Johnson just didnt have the brain for the game. 754323[/snapback] Johnson was/is a more fragile Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. He came back for one reason, the love of the game. I can respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Now that his football career is likely over he is going into business as an independent consultant to the turf industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 There were darker days then when the bills acquired a young QB with upside to possibly be the future leader of the team. If he was so bad, what can you say about Flutie? the guy couldn't even play good enough to make the coaches decission for them as to who should be the clear cut starter, and could't go on to start for anyone else afterwards 754326[/snapback] You have to love revisionist history....or simply historical retelling that fits a personal slant. The facts that came to light were that Ralphie wanted to see his investment play. And who can blame an old man for wanting to play with his Johnson, no one else would have. Once the Flutie led (?) Bills delivered a playoff birth, Ralph became the puppet master and Wade the puppet. The rest is lore. On top of that, after throrough interviewing....master head football coach Greg Williams chose Rob Johnson....another feather in the RJ cap. You can tell me all the stories you want, but the last time the Bills were a team that was fun to watch, was winning consistently, and had some sort of respectability was when Flutie was QBing this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Johnson had all of the tools and talent. I wonder how good he could have been if we had an o-line to protect him. 754319[/snapback] Even when protected he could never get rid of the damn ball. Seriously, how many times did you yell at the TV.....THROW THE F***ING BALL ROB!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Even when protected he could never get rid of the damn ball. Seriously, how many times did you yell at the TV.....THROW THE F***ING BALL ROB!!!!!!!! 754478[/snapback] Not only that, but the whole "when given time, he can really play" stuff is just worthless crap. Gee. If you give an NFL quarterback time, he can complete passes? Really? Wow! Novel !@#$ing concept. Who came up with THAT incredible concept? It's bad enough to hear it from fans, but Paul McGuire made a career out of saying the same stupid thing over and over except he'd preface it with "Let me tell ya something..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Even when protected he could never get rid of the damn ball. Seriously, how many times did you yell at the TV.....THROW THE F***ING BALL ROB!!!!!!!! 754478[/snapback] The best part was that after we ditched Rob, I still found myself out of force of habit screaming "THROW THE F***ING BALL ROB!" at the TV when Bledsoe used to plant himself back in the pocket. I had been programmed to yell that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Still smoking the crack after all this time? What tools? What talent? Johnson had all of the tools and talent. I wonder how good he could have been if we had an o-line to protect him. 754319[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I used to think it was just our O-Line...but honestly...not to re-open old wounds...but we did win games with Flutie back there. AND Johnson still got sacked an insane amount of times when he went to other teams with stronger O-Lines than ours. Methinks Johnson just didnt have the brain for the game. 754323[/snapback] In 1998 and 1999, it was proven fact that the D won games for us, not the offense. We were hardly in the top 10 with regard to that. Wade Phillips knows defense or did back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 That's what you want to believe. If you want to look at it objectively, you will see that Flutie made timely plays that actually won games for the Bills -- winning scores in the fourth quarter, key first downs (on his legs), and managed to help Moulds get to the Pro Bowl. But go ahead, you can treat him like he was Trent Dilfer on the Ravens, but it's far from the truth... and Flutie made the Pro Bowl for a reason -- he made plays. In 1998 and 1999, it was proven fact that the D won games for us, not the offense. We were hardly in the top 10 with regard to that. Wade Phillips knows defense or did back then. 754660[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 In 1998 and 1999, it was proven fact that the D won games for us, not the offense. We were hardly in the top 10 with regard to that. Wade Phillips knows defense or did back then. 754660[/snapback] So you're saying I could have suited up at QB and the Bills could have still won as many games with their Defense? QB played a part. Not as big as some other seasons, but the QB always has SOME role in how well the team does. Not turning this into a Flutie/Johnson debate by any means, but saying "Defense did it all" is just kind of goofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Especially when Flutie made the Pro Bowl and was good for 3000 yards and 20 TDs a season. Not Peyton Manning, but not just a caretaker either. Not turning this into a Flutie/Johnson debate by any means, but saying "Defense did it all" is just kind of goofy. 754670[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallow Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Johnson had all of the tools and talent. 754319[/snapback] for a HS QB. He had a 5 second brain in a 2 second game, couldn't take a hit, had no touch on the long ball and wasn't a leader. 9 wins. 18 million dollars. 2 mil per win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Maybe now the NFL will finally flush this turd...754300[/snapback] i am no RJ apologist but this is rather harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 He had a 5 second brain in a 2 second game. 754752[/snapback] I like the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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