finknottle Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 : Bottomline. TO is a cancer, and I'll be surprised if Dallas makes the playoffs with such a major disruption in their team. 753500[/snapback] With regard to the Dallas-Super Bowl with or without TO thread, I say they have a good shot at an appearance without... but no chance of the wheels staying on with!
The Tomcat Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 TO cant get cut...I just picked him up on my fantasy team. I know, I know...but it was the 3rd round in a 12 team draft and he was still there....
generaLee83 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2562846 IRVING, Texas -- Terrell Owens has finally pushed the Dallas Cowboys too far, drawing a $9,500 fine for missing a team meeting and a rehabilitation session and being late to an offensive meeting, The Dallas Morning News reported Sunday. AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez T.O. has spent more time on the sidelines than in uniform during the preseason. "That's our club business. That's going to be accounted for," team owner Jerry Jones told the newspaper. The incidents occurred Friday, the team's final day preparing for a preseason game against San Francisco. The Cowboys beat the 49ers 17-7, making them 3-0 this preseason without Owens playing any of the games because of a hamstring injury that's also kept him out of 19 of 31 practices since the start of training camp. Neither team officials nor Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, immediately returned calls to The Associated Press seeking comment Sunday. During a postgame television interview, Jones did not mention the fine but answered several other questions about Owens. Jones said his only concern with the receiver is "injury, not all this other stuff you hear about." Owens' past is filled with run-ins with quarterbacks, coaches and others in his own organization. San Francisco and Philadelphia got rid of him, but the Cowboys welcomed him with open arms and a lucrative contract in March, four days after the Eagles released him. Owens vowed to be a better man and a better teammate in Dallas. While the fine is the most drastic, he already has done plenty to stand out. He missed much of the offseason training program -- with permission -- and turned his hamstring injury into an attention-getter by flying in specialists to help him rehabilitate and wearing a cycling team outfit one day while pedaling a stationary bicycle. After returning to practice for several days, coach Bill Parcells ruled him out of a Monday night game and Owens hasn't practiced since. He said he aggravated the injury because the club pushed him too hard. When Parcells said this week that he needs to see Owens on the field, T.O. responded that there's 10 years of tape to show what he can do. Jones seemed to downplay the drama surrounding Owens' injury by noting that Carolina's Steve Smith and Pittsburgh's Hines Ward also have been slowed by hamstring injuries without drawing the same scrutiny as Owens. He also recalled Deion Sanders' ability to play well after flying in from baseball games and missing long stretches of practice. "I know this -- when he's healthy, he's going to help us win these ballgames," Jones said. The Cowboys play their final preseason game Thursday night at home against Minnesota. The opener is Sept. 10 at Jacksonville I sure am. Dallas might be in for a season collapse. 753170[/snapback] It staaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttttttttttssssssssssssss......................... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA FUG THEM COWBOYS!!!!!
daquixers_is_back Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 One: How do you know he is in football shape? Players come into camp looking sculpted all the time, only to disappoint - just read our own training camp archives. Weren't we gushing last year about how WM's off-season body-work was going to make him more explosive? All we know about TO's shape is that he biked a lot the last month and spent last season working out with a private trainer in his driveway. Two: That point is irrelevant, unless you would have also said after the national championship that he wouldn't make it past an NFL training camp - that would have shocked even the Clarett haters. It only shores up my point: take a guy with great promise, leave him to his own devices for a year or two, and maybe he loses it. Three: Ancient history. By your logic, nobody good gets old. When you are a receiver in your thirties with 10+ years under your belt, you can suddenly lose a step in an off-season. And most skill players, once in decline, fall off quickly and dramatically. Not practicing increases the risk. So yes, I do think an 11 year old tank can empty in 10 months. Or at least be leaking badly. It's not like anybody has taken him out for a ride recently. I'm certainly not claiming TO has hit the wall - how could I know? - just that if I were the coach I'd damn well need to see in action a 32 year old signee who doesn't practice because he has a hamstring, and hasn't prepared for a game since October 05. 753484[/snapback] I am NOT saying that no one gets old. What I am saying is that a player that averaged 7 receptions, 100 yards, and 1 TD a game LAST SEASON is not going to get old over 8 months (november-July). Think about it. He put up those stellar averages LAST SEASON. Not a long time ago or "ancient history" as you like to put it. ... and I think his last game or "ride" was in the beginning of November. But none-the-less this really doesnt bother me. I stated clearly before that I would be a minority in my thinking, and sure enough I am. But dont be suprised if T.O. ends the year with 90+ receptions, 1300+ yards and 15+ TD's.
beerme1 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 With regard to the Dallas-Super Bowl with or without TO thread, I say they have a good shot at an appearance without... but no chance of the wheels staying on with! 753508[/snapback] You too? Seriously? What is with you and Fez saying the Cowbays are SB contenders? Did I go to sleep last night missing out on Drew Bldsoe's developmental curve progressing? Did I?
daquixers_is_back Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 You too? Seriously? What is with you and Fez saying the Cowbays are SB contenders? Did I go to sleep last night missing out on Drew Bldsoe's developmental curve progressing? Did I? 753609[/snapback] Yeah Im not sure. I must be missing some new news about Dallas too. Either that or pre-season games actually mean something now???
generaLee83 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Yeah like we actually had a legitimate shot at getting TO. I know he is a cancer but I dont think there is a team in the league who would not take him. 753207[/snapback] I'm pretty sure if he fu-ks up in Dallas like he did in Philly and SF he can forget about any team signing him. If Bphlo ever signed him I'd quit being a fan. He's a selfish headcase who probably has numerous diagnosable psychological problems. He needs Doctor Phil to smash him in the face once or twice and knock him down a peg or two.
Buftex Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 You believe in Romo? 753403[/snapback] Assuming Parcells is back in Dallas next year, short of a SB win, or a deep playoff run, Romo will be the starting QB for the Cowboys in 2007...he has been handled well in Dallas, and you can see his dramatic improvement with each game...I know, it is only preseason, but this kid has mad a a major transformation in his three summers with the Cowboys. He just handles himself like a vetran, and has great awareness. He will still make some mistakes, to be sure. He could end up being Drew Bledsoe's Tom Brady part 2. That said, Bledsoe has looked pretty damn good this summer too. I think that, barring a TO disaster, the Cowboys will be pretty formidable this season. Their defense looks to be strong, and their O-line is improving. To those who think the Bills are in a quandry about which receiver to cut, watch the Cowboys cuts at that position...
PatPatPatSack Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 I think TO should be allowed to just show up 10 minutes before a game, suit up and he'll be good to go. In fact, he's so good he can probably take off after the first half. I mean, why should he have to play a whole game? If Drew just throws him the ball enough he'll personally win every game. 753500[/snapback] why don't they just treat terrible terrell as the STAR he is. I mean, just out and out say "look fellas, this guy is different. on so many levels. but we are gonna treat him different. he's not really a part of the team, he is a new position. media boy. star boy. and when he can't produce results - sell tickets - and keep us entertained and winning, he is out the door. till then, he gets a bling loaded golf cart and 2 hooter girls for drivers. now, let's play ball!
Dawgg Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Exactly. The problem here is that coaches are just as egotistical and selfish as the players they fine. For Parcells to refer to him as "the player" and claim that he can't play him when he has never seen him play is just asinine. Shows that he's just as insecure and ego-centric as TO is. Grow up, realize he produces on Sunday and let him do what he does! why don't they just treat terrible terrell as the STAR he is. I mean, just out and out say "look fellas, this guy is different. on so many levels. but we are gonna treat him different. he's not really a part of the team, he is a new position. media boy. star boy. and when he can't produce results - sell tickets - and keep us entertained and winning, he is out the door. till then, he gets a bling loaded golf cart and 2 hooter girls for drivers. now, let's play ball! 753712[/snapback]
generaLee83 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Exactly. The problem here is that coaches are just as egotistical and selfish as the players they fine. For Parcells to refer to him as "the player" and claim that he can't play him when he has never seen him play is just asinine. Shows that he's just as insecure and ego-centric as TO is. Grow up, realize he produces on Sunday and let him do what he does! 753713[/snapback] I will agree that at times that Parcells seems to be a bit tough on his players but how else should he respond to this situation? A coach is not everyones best friend. He needs to have command presence when necessary and not be afraid to discipline his players. I alwasy like to hypothesize that most of the players in the NFL are not people like the posters on this board. Most of us have worked difficult jobs that we hated so that we could put food in our stomachs and occasionally get the enjoyment of going to an NFL game. Most of us learned to do what our bosses said because we otherwise feared losing our jobs. I would venture a guess that most of these athletes have been coddled since HS. I'd bet most of them did not work shi_ty jobs when they were young and never truly learned the value of hard work. Most of them probably have problems being told what to do unlike the rest of us. Any player in the NFL was most likely a superstar in college and labeled a sports prodigy in HS, getting extra special treatment that we all could only dream of. TO is a piece of garbage that can play damn good football. That does not give him a right to separate himself and question every bit of authority or suggestion that comes his way from his coaches. Let him "do what he does"? If TO's behavior goes unchecked then this league will spiral downward and very slowly become the NBA. There will be 10 TO's for every 1 decent "keep his mouth shut and perform" player.
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