Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2562846 IRVING, Texas -- Terrell Owens has finally pushed the Dallas Cowboys too far, drawing a $9,500 fine for missing a team meeting and a rehabilitation session and being late to an offensive meeting, The Dallas Morning News reported Sunday. AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez T.O. has spent more time on the sidelines than in uniform during the preseason. "That's our club business. That's going to be accounted for," team owner Jerry Jones told the newspaper. The incidents occurred Friday, the team's final day preparing for a preseason game against San Francisco. The Cowboys beat the 49ers 17-7, making them 3-0 this preseason without Owens playing any of the games because of a hamstring injury that's also kept him out of 19 of 31 practices since the start of training camp. Neither team officials nor Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, immediately returned calls to The Associated Press seeking comment Sunday. During a postgame television interview, Jones did not mention the fine but answered several other questions about Owens. Jones said his only concern with the receiver is "injury, not all this other stuff you hear about." Owens' past is filled with run-ins with quarterbacks, coaches and others in his own organization. San Francisco and Philadelphia got rid of him, but the Cowboys welcomed him with open arms and a lucrative contract in March, four days after the Eagles released him. Owens vowed to be a better man and a better teammate in Dallas. While the fine is the most drastic, he already has done plenty to stand out. He missed much of the offseason training program -- with permission -- and turned his hamstring injury into an attention-getter by flying in specialists to help him rehabilitate and wearing a cycling team outfit one day while pedaling a stationary bicycle. After returning to practice for several days, coach Bill Parcells ruled him out of a Monday night game and Owens hasn't practiced since. He said he aggravated the injury because the club pushed him too hard. When Parcells said this week that he needs to see Owens on the field, T.O. responded that there's 10 years of tape to show what he can do. Jones seemed to downplay the drama surrounding Owens' injury by noting that Carolina's Steve Smith and Pittsburgh's Hines Ward also have been slowed by hamstring injuries without drawing the same scrutiny as Owens. He also recalled Deion Sanders' ability to play well after flying in from baseball games and missing long stretches of practice. "I know this -- when he's healthy, he's going to help us win these ballgames," Jones said. The Cowboys play their final preseason game Thursday night at home against Minnesota. The opener is Sept. 10 at Jacksonville I sure am. Dallas might be in for a season collapse.
H2o Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Terrel Owens is undoubtedly a GREAT WR when he's on the field. He has all but ruined himself in the NFL though. His erratic behavior, authority problems, and obvious mental issues have brought him to this place. If a major change doesn't take place in his attitude and how he carries himself, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones cut him at the end of this year. If and when this does take place, I don't see him getting another chance anywhere. He'll probably find himself pretty much "black-balled" fom the league. If he would've just remained a great, hard-working receiver named Terrel Owens instead of becoming the mentally unstable person we all know as T.O., the ending to his story would've been completely different. This reminds me of the movie "A Bronx Tale" and the conversations between Callaudulo and his father about "wasted talent". Terrel Owens story is playing out as him being a person who's done nothing but waste his talent.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Terrel Owens is undoubtedly a GREAT WR when he's on the field. He has all but ruined himself in the NFL though. His erratic behavior, authority problems, and obvious mental issues have brought him to this place. If a major change doesn't take place in his attitude and how he carries himself, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones cut him at the end of this year. If and when this does take place, I don't see him getting another chance anywhere. He'll probably find himself pretty much "black-balled" fom the league. If he would've just remained a great, hard-working receiver named Terrel Owens instead of becoming the mentally unstable person we all know as T.O., the ending to his story would've been completely different. This reminds me of the movie "A Bronx Tale" and the conversations between Callaudulo and his father about "wasted talent". Terrel Owens story is playing out as him being a person who's done nothing but waste his talent. 753184[/snapback] All of which will mean nothing when he is released from the Cowboys (eventually.) We will still have a bevy of star-crossed TBD'ers making the obligatory "Let's sign T.O. What do we have to lose?" posts. PTR
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Yeah like we actually had a legitimate shot at getting TO. I know he is a cancer but I dont think there is a team in the league who would not take him.
CosmicBills Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Yeah like we actually had a legitimate shot at getting TO. I know he is a cancer but I dont think there is a team in the league who would not take him. 753207[/snapback] I can think of one: The Eagles.
Frez Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Dallas can win the SB this year, IMHO. It will either be with or without Terral Owens.
jarthur31 Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 All of which will mean nothing when he is released from the Cowboys (evetually.) We will still have a bevy of star-crossed TBD'ers making the obligatory "Let's sign T.O. What do we have to lose?" posts. PTR 753201[/snapback] Man you are so very right. And that is so very sad at the same time.
true_blue_bill Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2562846 IRVING, Texas -- Terrell Owens has finally pushed the Dallas Cowboys too far, drawing a $9,500 fine for missing a team meeting and a rehabilitation session and being late to an offensive meeting, The Dallas Morning News reported Sunday. AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez T.O. has spent more time on the sidelines than in uniform during the preseason. "That's our club business. That's going to be accounted for," team owner Jerry Jones told the newspaper. The incidents occurred Friday, the team's final day preparing for a preseason game against San Francisco. The Cowboys beat the 49ers 17-7, making them 3-0 this preseason without Owens playing any of the games because of a hamstring injury that's also kept him out of 19 of 31 practices since the start of training camp. Neither team officials nor Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, immediately returned calls to The Associated Press seeking comment Sunday. During a postgame television interview, Jones did not mention the fine but answered several other questions about Owens. Jones said his only concern with the receiver is "injury, not all this other stuff you hear about." Owens' past is filled with run-ins with quarterbacks, coaches and others in his own organization. San Francisco and Philadelphia got rid of him, but the Cowboys welcomed him with open arms and a lucrative contract in March, four days after the Eagles released him. Owens vowed to be a better man and a better teammate in Dallas. While the fine is the most drastic, he already has done plenty to stand out. He missed much of the offseason training program -- with permission -- and turned his hamstring injury into an attention-getter by flying in specialists to help him rehabilitate and wearing a cycling team outfit one day while pedaling a stationary bicycle. After returning to practice for several days, coach Bill Parcells ruled him out of a Monday night game and Owens hasn't practiced since. He said he aggravated the injury because the club pushed him too hard. When Parcells said this week that he needs to see Owens on the field, T.O. responded that there's 10 years of tape to show what he can do. Jones seemed to downplay the drama surrounding Owens' injury by noting that Carolina's Steve Smith and Pittsburgh's Hines Ward also have been slowed by hamstring injuries without drawing the same scrutiny as Owens. He also recalled Deion Sanders' ability to play well after flying in from baseball games and missing long stretches of practice. "I know this -- when he's healthy, he's going to help us win these ballgames," Jones said. The Cowboys play their final preseason game Thursday night at home against Minnesota. The opener is Sept. 10 at Jacksonville I sure am. Dallas might be in for a season collapse. 753170[/snapback] Maybe T.O. is right and the rest of the world is wrong?
beerme1 Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Dallas can win the SB this year, IMHO. It will either be with or without Terral Owens. 753297[/snapback] Seriously?
daquixers_is_back Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 I know that I am in the minority, but I still would take T.O. - he has only practiced for about 10 days of training camp and hasnt played in the pre-season games, but I do not think that means much. As the article said (more like TO said) he has 10 years of highlights to show what he can do ... a coach isnt going to see anything new in 30 days of camp. As long as he learns the plays and is ready for the real games then let him do what he wants in Training Camp. And as Jerry Jones said - other star receivers throughout the league such as Steve Smith have been out with injuries and they have not received the same treatment T.O. has and not to forget that Deion Sanders use to practice very little while playing baseball. Good comments by the owner and I share the same sentiments.
daquixers_is_back Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Dallas can win the SB this year, IMHO. It will either be with or without Terral Owens. 753297[/snapback] What? Huh?
MDH Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 I know that I am in the minority, but I still would take T.O. - he has only practiced for about 10 days of training camp and hasnt played in the pre-season games, but I do not think that means much. As the article said (more like TO said) he has 10 years of highlights to show what he can do ... a coach isnt going to see anything new in 30 days of camp. As long as he learns the plays and is ready for the real games then let him do what he wants in Training Camp. And as Jerry Jones said - other star receivers throughout the league such as Steve Smith have been out with injuries and they have not received the same treatment T.O. has and not to forget that Deion Sanders use to practice very little while playing baseball. Good comments by the owner and I share the same sentiments. 753365[/snapback] The problem with Owens isn't all Owens (though much of it is), it's also the media. Owens could be a choir boy these days but he'd still be a distraction to the rest of the team. Every little ingrown toe nail or dropped pass gets blown way out of proportion and has the potential to keep the other players, and the coaches, from concentrating on what they need to do. IMO he's just not worth it, no player is. I wouldn't want him on the Bills if he played for the vet minimum.
daquixers_is_back Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 The problem with Owens isn't all Owens (though much of it is), it's also the media. Owens could be a choir boy these days but he'd still be a distraction to the rest of the team. Every little ingrown toe nail or dropped pass gets blown way out of proportion and has the potential to keep the other players, and the coaches, from concentrating on what they need to do. IMO he's just not worth it, no player is. I wouldn't want him on the Bills if he played for the vet minimum. 753370[/snapback] I understand what you are saying, I just dont agree. Well I agree with the media blowing up the little things he does, but the media will always be a part of your NFL experience and if your players cant deal with the media then your not going to win a SB anyway. When you reach that SB game the media is going to be all over you ... exposing even the smallest things. One alcoholic drink for dinner. Eaching steak instead of pasta. Whatever. If you cant handle the media, then you dont have a SB team. T.O makes catches that others wouldnt be able to make, has the speed to get open faster (needed for our weak 0-line at times), and the agility to move after the catch. Basically everything we need and would make Losman a better QB.
finknottle Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 I know that I am in the minority, but I still would take T.O. - he has only practiced for about 10 days of training camp and hasnt played in the pre-season games, but I do not think that means much. As the article said (more like TO said) he has 10 years of highlights to show what he can do ... : 753365[/snapback] So does Jerry Rice. All this talk about TO being a great WR means nothing. Even putting aside the personality disorder issue, you've got a guy who is on a new team, learning a new system, has (according to him) an injury which prevents him from even practicing, and you havn't seen him play in an actual game in almost a year. This is TO's 11'th season. How is Parcells supposed to know that he has anything left in the tank? That he didn't hit the wall already? Does the name Maurice Clarrett mean anything any more, or have we already forgotten how fast you can go from stud to slug when you spend the season working out in your driveway?
Rico Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Dallas can win the SB this year, IMHO. It will either be with or without Terral Owens. 753297[/snapback] You believe in Romo?
daquixers_is_back Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 So does Jerry Rice. All this talk about TO being a great WR means nothing. Even putting aside the personality disorder issue, you've got a guy who is on a new team, learning a new system, has (according to him) an injury which prevents him from even practicing, and you havn't seen him play in an actual game in almost a year. This is TO's 11'th season. How is Parcells supposed to know that he has anything left in the tank? That he didn't hit the wall already? Does the name Maurice Clarrett mean anything any more, or have we already forgotten how fast you can go from stud to slug when you spend the season working out in your driveway? 753392[/snapback] The differences between Maurice Clarett and Terrel Owens. One : T.O. is in great shape. Clarett is not. Two: T.O. excelled in the NFL. Clarett could not make it past training camp in the NFL. Three: T.O. has 124 receptions, 1,963 yards, 20 TD's in his last 21 games. An Average of 6 receptions, 93 yards, and 1 TD per game. As far as nothing being left in the tank. Last year he averaged nearly 7 receptions, 109 yards, and a little less than 1 TD per game. Which if he played the entire season would translate 112 receptions, 1744 yards and 15 TD's. So unless he emptied his full "tank" dramatically as you like to put it, in 10 months then I think he has something left.
Offside Number 76 Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Dallas can win the SB this year, IMHO. It will either be with or without Terral Owens. 753297[/snapback] I'm with you. Dallas looks damned good.
finknottle Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 The differences between Maurice Clarett and Terrel Owens. One : T.O. is in great shape. Clarett is not. Two: T.O. excelled in the NFL. Clarett could not make it past training camp in the NFL. Three: T.O. has 124 receptions, 1,963 yards, 20 TD's in his last 21 games. An Average of 6 receptions, 93 yards, and 1 TD per game. As far as nothing being left in the tank. Last year he averaged nearly 7 receptions, 109 yards, and a little less than 1 TD per game. Which if he played the entire season would translate 112 receptions, 1744 yards and 15 TD's. So unless he emptied his full "tank" dramatically as you like to put it, in 10 months then I think he has something left. 753408[/snapback] One: How do you know he is in football shape? Players come into camp looking sculpted all the time, only to disappoint - just read our own training camp archives. Weren't we gushing last year about how WM's off-season body-work was going to make him more explosive? All we know about TO's shape is that he biked a lot the last month and spent last season working out with a private trainer in his driveway. Two: That point is irrelevant, unless you would have also said after the national championship that he wouldn't make it past an NFL training camp - that would have shocked even the Clarett haters. It only shores up my point: take a guy with great promise, leave him to his own devices for a year or two, and maybe he loses it. Three: Ancient history. By your logic, nobody good gets old. When you are a receiver in your thirties with 10+ years under your belt, you can suddenly lose a step in an off-season. And most skill players, once in decline, fall off quickly and dramatically. Not practicing increases the risk. So yes, I do think an 11 year old tank can empty in 10 months. Or at least be leaking badly. It's not like anybody has taken him out for a ride recently. I'm certainly not claiming TO has hit the wall - how could I know? - just that if I were the coach I'd damn well need to see in action a 32 year old signee who doesn't practice because he has a hamstring, and hasn't prepared for a game since October 05.
Chilly Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 If T.O. was pressing his luck, and he was fined, does this mean that he got a whammy?
Dan Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Why have any of your star players practice our show up to camp? I mean once you've played a year ot two, its obvious you've learned all you need to know and never need to practice again. I think TO should be allowed to just show up 10 minutes before a game, suit up and he'll be good to go. In fact, he's so good he can probably take off after the first half. I mean, why should he have to play a whole game? If Drew just throws him the ball enough he'll personally win every game. Bottomline. TO is a cancer, and I'll be surprised if Dallas makes the playoffs with such a major disruption in their team.
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