mtdoak Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 For all you people who have been around awhile: I currently hate my job. Its phone tech support in a call center, supporting recycling yards and software which is not used anywhere else outside of this company. It pays well for me, I have no college degree (i went to school for engineering for 5 years and never graduated), no certifications, but have 4 years tech support experience under my belt. Its basically a dead end job with no real room for upward mobility. I live in Ann Arbor MI and have really no reason to stay in this area, except for one good friend who lives 30 minutes away. In case you haven't been paying attention, the greater Detroit area is going downhill fast. I'm 24 years old and would like to get a degree eventually. I may have an oppurtunity to work for a company who was named "best IT company to work for " (Quicken Loans), but its in Livonia, MI, basically keeping me in the same area which is going to the crapper quick. Should I A) Pursue a better job with my current experience in the same area B) Pursue a better job with my current experience in a better area/growing market? C) Keep my current job, get some certifications/a degree, then go after an even better job in a better market?
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 For all you people who have been around awhile: I currently hate my job. Its phone tech support in a call center, supporting recycling yards and software which is not used anywhere else outside of this company. It pays well for me, I have no college degree (i went to school for engineering for 5 years and never graduated), no certifications, but have 4 years tech support experience under my belt. Its basically a dead end job with no real room for upward mobility. I live in Ann Arbor MI and have really no reason to stay in this area, except for one good friend who lives 30 minutes away. In case you haven't been paying attention, the greater Detroit area is going downhill fast. I'm 24 years old and would like to get a degree eventually. I may have an oppurtunity to work for a company who was named "best IT company to work for " (Quicken Loans), but its in Livonia, MI, basically keeping me in the same area which is going to the crapper quick. Should I A) Pursue a better job with my current experience in the same area B) Pursue a better job with my current experience in a better area/growing market? C) Keep my current job, get some certifications/a degree, then go after an even better job in a better market? 750776[/snapback] D) Drink and B word, like any true American.
BillsFanNC Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 For all you people who have been around awhile: I currently hate my job. Its phone tech support in a call center, supporting recycling yards and software which is not used anywhere else outside of this company. It pays well for me, I have no college degree (i went to school for engineering for 5 years and never graduated), no certifications, but have 4 years tech support experience under my belt. Its basically a dead end job with no real room for upward mobility. I live in Ann Arbor MI and have really no reason to stay in this area, except for one good friend who lives 30 minutes away. In case you haven't been paying attention, the greater Detroit area is going downhill fast. I'm 24 years old and would like to get a degree eventually. I may have an oppurtunity to work for a company who was named "best IT company to work for " (Quicken Loans), but its in Livonia, MI, basically keeping me in the same area which is going to the crapper quick. Should I A) Pursue a better job with my current experience in the same area B) Pursue a better job with my current experience in a better area/growing market? C) Keep my current job, get some certifications/a degree, then go after an even better job in a better market? 750776[/snapback] C
Fezmid Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 C -- except I'd qualify that by saying don't get a certificate, get your degree since you're so close. Lots of places won't even look at you without a degree. A certification just means you were able to pay money to pass a test, and most places (in IT, in the Twin Cities at least) don't give a crap about certs.
carpbflo Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 C:) Finish your degree! See if your current employer provides education assistance. If not, then check with Quicken Loans to see if they will provide you with financial assistance to finish your degree. Once you get that paper in hand then you will be able to make that move to a better job and area. Good Luck!
Johnny Coli Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 For all you people who have been around awhile: I currently hate my job. Its phone tech support in a call center, supporting recycling yards and software which is not used anywhere else outside of this company. It pays well for me, I have no college degree (i went to school for engineering for 5 years and never graduated), no certifications, but have 4 years tech support experience under my belt. Its basically a dead end job with no real room for upward mobility. I live in Ann Arbor MI and have really no reason to stay in this area, except for one good friend who lives 30 minutes away. In case you haven't been paying attention, the greater Detroit area is going downhill fast. I'm 24 years old and would like to get a degree eventually. I may have an oppurtunity to work for a company who was named "best IT company to work for " (Quicken Loans), but its in Livonia, MI, basically keeping me in the same area which is going to the crapper quick. Should I A) Pursue a better job with my current experience in the same area B) Pursue a better job with my current experience in a better area/growing market? C) Keep my current job, get some certifications/a degree, then go after an even better job in a better market? 750776[/snapback] None of the above. You're 24 years old, so you've still got time...unlike a lot of these other slobs ( ). Move to a better, major city. You don't have a degree, but you can easily get a tech support job through a temp/contract agency. Go back to school and pick a career. Work the temp/contract job while you're in school. I was a bit older than you cooking in restaurants here in Boston (Loserville, USA) and worked enough hours at a liquor store to supplement my student loans, and to pay rent and eat while going back to school (the 30% discount on beer didn't hurt any, either). It can be done.
Chef Jim Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 D) Drink and B word, like any true American. 750779[/snapback] Well if he's been drinking I think D has already been taken care of.
HopsGuy Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 How many credits are you short? Would the degree be from the University of Michigan? Do you have the funds to finish? Can you do it at night? That would be a nice piece of paper to have.
inkman Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 You're young. Take up a life of crime. Tons of cash, hot bitches and if you go to the hole you'll be out by the time you are 50.
VABills Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 Join the military, see the world,, meet interesting people, kill them. Oh and finish your degree while you are in.
taterhill Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 Join the military, see the world,, meet interesting people, kill them. Oh and finish your degree while you are in. 750799[/snapback] you made me laugh...what is going on here
VABills Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 you made me laugh...what is going on here 750802[/snapback] Might have something to do with your doctor being available again. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6082200915.html
IDBillzFan Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 ...and worked enough hours at a liquor store to supplement my student loans750792[/snapback] Man, talk about the fox guarding the hen house.
RayFinkle Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 Get the degree man. It will be tough, but the time will fly by, you'll be done before you know it. PS- and stop asking for career advise from a bunch of guys who have jobs that allow them to post on a Buffalo Bills message board all day.
Fezmid Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 PS- and stop asking for career advise from a bunch of guys who have jobs that allow them to post on a Buffalo Bills message board all day. 750829[/snapback] Why? IT is a pretty lucrative career track. (until you get outsourced to India... ) CW
VABills Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 Get the degree man. It will be tough, but the time will fly by, you'll be done before you know it. PS- and stop asking for career advise from a bunch of guys who have jobs that allow them to post on a Buffalo Bills message board all day. 750829[/snapback] I wouldn't take career advise from someone who cannot spell "advice".
RayFinkle Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 I wouldn't take career advise from someone who cannot spell "advice". 750835[/snapback] HA!
BuffaloBud Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 C. It is far easier to find a job (or better) job when you are employed, rather than finding a job when unemployed. The stress and pressure are factors different. Get the degree! BTW, isn't Google moving part of its headquarters to MI?
mtdoak Posted August 24, 2006 Author Posted August 24, 2006 C. It is far easier to find a job (or better) job when you are employed, rather than finding a job when unemployed. The stress and pressure are factors different. Get the degree! BTW, isn't Google moving part of its headquarters to MI? 750845[/snapback] To Ann Arbor, MI, to be exact. Ann Arbor is a small city thats growing, but the greater Detroit area is dying a slow painful death. As far as my degree goes, I could finish it within a year if i went back to the school i did the 5 years at, probably 2 years away anywhere else. FWIW, the school i went to= anal retentive christian school, no booze, no gambling, and no fun in general. I'm pretty sure my failure at this place is directly related to the killing of one of my major food groups, booze.
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