Johnny Coli Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 This has been posted a few times here. It's authenticity is somewhat dubious. Urban myths 749202[/snapback] They can't hear you over the war drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 They can't hear you over the war drums. 749349[/snapback] I'm not a Warmonger, I don't like to turn on CNN to watch things blow up, and I hate to see our boys shipped off overseas. There does come a point in time however when Radical Fanaticism needs to be met with Brute Force. Its tough to negotiate when you don't speak the same language as the party you are sitting with. We can debate all day long about the levels of diplomacy needed and the inherent causes as to why, generically speaking, the Middle East despises America, but that doesn't address the realism that it is what it is. Developing a rational and comprehensive diplomatic relationship with a nation that dismisses the notion that the Holocaust ever existed is a far-fetched idea. There comes a time when the flash point of the situation boils down to two fundamental choices, us or them. Just don't bring a pen to a knife fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 There does come a point in time however when Radical Fanaticism needs to be met with Brute Force.749383[/snapback] I think that time is tomorrow night at 8pm on WWE Raw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I'm not a Warmonger, I don't like to turn on CNN to watch things blow up, and I hate to see our boys shipped off overseas. There does come a point in time however when Radical Fanaticism needs to be met with Brute Force. Its tough to negotiate when you don't speak the same language as the party you are sitting with. We can debate all day long about the levels of diplomacy needed and the inherent causes as to why, generically speaking, the Middle East despises America, but that doesn't address the realism that it is what it is. Developing a rational and comprehensive diplomatic relationship with a nation that dismisses the notion that the Holocaust ever existed is a far-fetched idea. There comes a time when the flash point of the situation boils down to two fundamental choices, us or them. Just don't bring a pen to a knife fight 749383[/snapback] So what is your plan with confronting Iran, bomb what? dismantle the gov't? and install a democracy? or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 So what is your plan with confronting Iran, bomb what? dismantle the gov't? and install a democracy? or what? 749394[/snapback] Naa, its probably, remodel the bathroom, watch youtube, and start drinking beer again. Then make it a parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Naa, its probably, remodel the bathroom, watch youtube, and start drinking beer again. Then make it a parking lot. 749404[/snapback] Now thats a plan that I could agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 So what is your plan with confronting Iran, bomb what? dismantle the gov't? and install a democracy? or what? 749394[/snapback] If I had a plan for that, I wouldn't be sitting here. I understand that Iran is a unique situation even in the essence that the majority of its citizens are not of Arab decent, rather persian which can serve as a cultural separator from the "traditional" fundamentalists. The last thing the US needs is to dismantle the government and be forced to baby sit another nation as it spirals into civil war. I was merely saying that traditional diplomacy means very little to the powers that be in Iran. They operate on a different frequency than 99% of the Nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Naa, its probably, remodel the bathroom, watch youtube, and start drinking beer again. Then make it a parking lot. 749404[/snapback] The bathroom is fine, not a big youtube fan, I do enjoy beer, and I'd prefer a beachfront resort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 If I had a plan for that, I wouldn't be sitting here. I understand that Iran is a unique situation even in the essence that the majority of its citizens are not of Arab decent, rather persian which can serve as a cultural separator from the "traditional" fundamentalists. The last thing the US needs is to dismantle the government and be forced to baby sit another nation as it spirals into civil war. I was merely saying that traditional diplomacy means very little to the powers that be in Iran. They operate on a different frequency than 99% of the Nations. 749422[/snapback] What is your suggestion on how tho deal with Irans nuclear facilities or any other iranian matter that you believe cannot be handled without using brute force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 What is your suggestion on how tho deal with Irans nuclear facilities or any other iranian matter that you believe cannot be handled without using brute force? 749435[/snapback] send Lexington Steele to Iran and anally rape every potential terrorist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 What is your suggestion on how tho deal with Irans nuclear facilities or any other iranian matter that you believe cannot be handled without using brute force? 749435[/snapback] I suggested brute force in response to the article on which this thread was posted. The current situation I believe should be addressed as follows: Since Iran looks to be attempting a certain level of international dialogue on the matter, that avenue should be examined. However, covertly, the US/UN should maintain a strong presence in the flow of Uranium and related materials coming from Africa, as well as restrict the flow of technology that is available to the Iranians. Being able to enrich Uranium for weapons grade material appears to be a question of when, not if. Limiting the technology that would enhance the missile platform capabilities looks to be the appropriate course of action for the meantime. As far as the regime is concerned, the world needs to place such downard pressure on the government so that Iran doesn't play tag along to North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 send Lexington Steele to Iran and anally rape every potential terrorist 749443[/snapback] And videotape the brute sodomy and sell it in select markets? What if they like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I suggested brute force in response to the article on which this thread was posted. The current situation I believe should be addressed as follows: Since Iran looks to be attempting a certain level of international dialogue on the matter, that avenue should be examined. However, covertly, the US/UN should maintain a strong presence in the flow of Uranium and related materials coming from Africa, as well as restrict the flow of technology that is available to the Iranians. Being able to enrich Uranium for weapons grade material appears to be a question of when, not if. Limiting the technology that would enhance the missile platform capabilities looks to be the appropriate course of action for the meantime. As far as the regime is concerned, the world needs to place such downard pressure on the government so that Iran doesn't play tag along to North Korea. 749446[/snapback] The old ironfist wrapped in a velvet glove approach sounds reasonable.. I'm not defending Iran, I am looking at their counter-attack capabilities if we drop the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The old ironfist wrapped in a velvet glove approach sounds reasonable.. I'm not defending Iran, I am looking at their counter-attack capabilities if we drop the hammer. 749450[/snapback] Our Israeli allies would feel the full brunt of that counter attack. The true threat of Iran to the mainland US from conventional forces is virtually negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Our Israeli allies would feel the full brunt of that counter attack. The true threat of Iran to the mainland US from conventional forces is virtually negligible. 749451[/snapback] Not only israel, but Iraq, the strait of hormuz and oil production in saudi arabia. There are reports of Hizb'Allah in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 As far as the regime is concerned, the world needs to place such downard pressure on the government so that Iran doesn't play tag along to North Korea. 749446[/snapback] Too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Too late. 749493[/snapback] What the hell do you know? Go back to your knitting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 What if they like it? 749448[/snapback] I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 So what is your plan with confronting Iran, bomb what? dismantle the gov't? and install a democracy? or what? 749394[/snapback] To quote John Valby : "Bomb, bomb, bomb.. Bomb, bomb Iran! Bomb, bomb, bomb.. Bomb, bomb Iran!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 To quote John Valby : "Bomb, bomb, bomb.. Bomb, bomb Iran! Bomb, bomb, bomb.. Bomb, bomb Iran!.... 749536[/snapback] And then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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