Tipster19 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 If we got as big of a problem on our O-Line as some are believing then it might be a long year for us when we play the Dolphins. We could stand to use one of their cast-offs. Kevin Vickerson looks pretty good, I wonder if he gets the boot. His bio seems like he could be the caliber of player that Marv seems to favor. http://www.miamidolphins.com/newsite/team/depth_chart.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 As much as I hate to give those Choads credit I was watching the Bucs/Fish preseason game and Dan Wilkinson was running through Tampa's first string line. The sack he put on Chris Simms was more like a WWF Power Bomb and right now he's listed as 4th string on that line. Hope thats not JP or whoever the hell is taking the snaps in week 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 color me unimpressed about the dolphins dline especially their dt's. Vonnie Holliday and Keith Traylor are due for social security. Jeff zgonia, Dan Wilkinson might be ok as reserves, but big daddy is far past his prime, and not much to brag about. Personally Im more impressed with Fredrick Evans then Vickerson for the fins, but I wouldn't care for either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The key will be to NOT run it up the middle. Until later in the season when the old geezers are gassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I watched a good portion of the Dolphins game against the Bucs. Those old geezers looked pretty good in that heat in Tampa. I wish we still had some of our old geezers on our team (Pat, Ted, and/or Sam) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I watched a good portion of the Dolphins game against the Bucs. Those old geezers looked pretty good in that heat in Tampa. I wish we still had some of our old geezers on our team (Pat, Ted, and/or Sam) 748856[/snapback] ted washington was awful last year, as was sam adams. Pat Williams was good, but I'll take the lighter guys who could probably last a whole season, not to mention its much harder to block faster interior linemen then it is fat blimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I watched a good portion of the Dolphins game against the Bucs. Those old geezers looked pretty good in that heat in Tampa. Hence the reason I said avoid the middle until later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 ted washington was awful last year, as was sam adams. Pat Williams was good, but I'll take the lighter guys who could probably last a whole season, not to mention its much harder to block faster interior linemen then it is fat blimps. 748860[/snapback] I do not specifically recall seeing Ted play last year. I thought that Sam was fine -- when they allowed him to play his game. By the way, it looks like fat Pat is now one of the Vikings captains. He was out there for the coin toss at the beginning of their last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 ted washington was awful last year, as was sam adams. Pat Williams was good, but I'll take the lighter guys who could probably last a whole season, not to mention its much harder to block faster interior linemen then it is fat blimps. 748860[/snapback] I thought Sam Adams played pretty well last year also, when he was allowed to play. Tim Anderson was awful. Pat Williams might have been the best DT in the NFL last year IMO; wish we still had Phat Pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I thought Sam Adams played pretty well last year also, when he was allowed to play. Tim Anderson was awful. Pat Williams might have been the best DT in the NFL last year IMO; wish we still had Phat Pat. 748890[/snapback] Sam Adams was good when he felt like being good. I just felt he half assed it last season. He's not paticularly good against the run, but when he wants to be a force at collapsing the pocket he can be, but its just that kind of attitude I dont want to see. Whether it was the coaches holding him back or whatever. His attitude put me off, and I wont really miss him, but yes I also wish we still had fat pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike formerly from Florida Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 color me unimpressed about the dolphins dline especially their dt's. Vonnie Holliday and Keith Traylor are due for social security. Jeff zgonia, Dan Wilkinson might be ok as reserves, but big daddy is far past his prime, and not much to brag about. Personally Im more impressed with Fredrick Evans then Vickerson for the fins, but I wouldn't care for either one. 748830[/snapback] I agree, half those players are too slow or will be hurt by the time we play them. Miami is the most overrated team by the media this year. God, I hope Culpepper is ready by the time we play them. Guarantee win as long as we don't turn the ball over more than he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 If Wilkerson still has gas in his tank, he'll help the fish. He's tough to move - I'd guess Lion's DT Shaun Rogers will miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 If Wilkerson still has gas in his tank, he'll help the fish. He's tough to move - I'd guess Lion's DT Shaun Rogers will miss him. The Lions were lousy in rush defense last year. And Rogers is a Pro Bowl player still in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The Lions were lousy in rush defense last year. And Rogers is a Pro Bowl player still in his prime. 749089[/snapback] Synergy. Ala Williams and Adams. We'll have to see how Rogers performs sans Wilkerson this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Synergy. Ala Williams and Adams. We'll have to see how Rogers performs sans Wilkerson this year. Williams did fine without Adams. Rogers will do fine without Wilkinson, not that the Lions' rush defense could get much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Williams did fine without Adams. Rogers will do fine without Wilkinson, not that the Lions' rush defense could get much worse. 749101[/snapback] 2005: Rogers: 39 total, 29 solo, 10 assists, 5.5 sacks Wilkerson: 26 total, 20 solo, 6 assists, 3 sacks. 13 more tackles/assists and 2.5 sacks for Rogers. Wilkerson held up his end of the bargain. What's not quantifiable is whether teams chose to run at Rogers instead of Wilkerson, or if Wilkerson's presence gave Rogers breathing room. We would have to watch a lot of Lions games to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The bills DL is going to be smaller on most NFL Sundays this year but that is the idea......deploy smaller quicker DT's in a rotation (so that the big OL cannot wear them down) beat the bigger OL off the snap wear them out and by the 4th quarter take over the game physically...... To me the makeup of this team on the lines is to win games in the 4th quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 The bills DL is going to be smaller on most NFL Sundays this year but that is the idea......deploy smaller quicker DT's in a rotation (so that the big OL cannot wear them down) beat the bigger OL off the snap wear them out and by the 4th quarter take over the game physically...... To me the makeup of this team on the lines is to win games in the 4th quarter 749181[/snapback] Yeah, if we are able to stay in the game thru the 1st,2nd,and 3rd quarters first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 They have gone against to playoff O lines so far in preseason.....and have done pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 They have gone against to playoff O lines so far in preseason.....and have done pretty well. 749217[/snapback] I watched the cincy game. Triplett and Williams both looked pretty good. Only one sack by Bflo, but Williams was putting the pressure on, and might have had one or two more if qbs Wright and Johnson hadn't used their vet savvy to dump the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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