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I suspect the only truly controversial moves I made were having 2 QB and 3 DE on the roster. In my defense, I'd prefer having a couple extra special teamers instead of a crappy 3rd-string QB (Moorman > Holcomb) or a crappy backup DE (one of our DT's or LB's > Josh Cooper, Eric Powell, etc...).

 

ROSTER:

 

K Rian Lindell

P Brian Moorman

LS Mike Schneck

 

QB JP Losman

QB Craig Nall

 

RB Willis McGahee

RB Lionel Gates

RB Anthony Thomas

FB Alan Ricard

FB Joe Burns

 

WR Lee Evans

WR Peerless Price

WR Josh Reed

WR Andre’ Davis

WR Sam Aiken

WR Roscoe Parrish

 

TE Robert Royal

TE Ryan Neufeld

TE Kevin Everett

 

LT Mike Gandy

LT Terrance Pennington

RT Jason Peters

RT Brad Butler

LG Tutan Reyes

LG Raymond Preston

RG Chris Villarial

RG Aaron Gibson

C Melvin Fowler

C Justin Geisinger

 

DE Aaron Schobel

DE Ryan Denney

DE Chris Kelsay

DT Larry Tripplett

DT Kyle Williams

DT John McCargo

DT Tim Anderson

 

OLB Takeo Spikes

OLB Angelo Crowell

OLB Mario Haggan

OLB Keith Ellison

OLB Josh Stamer

MLB London Fletcher-Baker

MLB Courtney Watson

 

CB Nate Clements

CB Terrence McGee

CB Ashton Youboty

CB Eric King

CB Jabari Greer

SS Donte Whitner

SS Matt Bowen

SS Coy Wire

FS Troy Vincent

FS Ko Simpson

 

PRACTICE SQUAD:

 

QB Craig Ochs

RB Fred Jackson

WR Martin Nance

TE Brad Cieslak

C Aaron Merz

DE Ryan Neill

MLB John DiGiorgio

CB Eric Bassey

 

CUTS:

 

K Nick Setta

QB Kliff Kingsbury

QB Tory Woodbury

QB Kelly Holcomb

RB Shaud Williams

FB Daimon Shelton

FB Jon Goldsberry

WR Jonathan Smith

WR Chris Denney

WR George Wilson

T Matt Morgan

T Dylan McFarland

G Greg Jerman

G Jason Thomas

DE Joshua Cooper

DE Jason Hall

DE Eric Powell

DT Jason Jefferson

DT LaWaylon Brown

DT Lauvale Sape

DT Tai Tupai

OLB Wendell Hunter

MLB Liam Ezekiel

CB Kiwaukee Thomas

CB James Bethea

S Rob Lee

S Rashad Baker

S Jim Leonhard

 

Discuss.

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Bulleted for yr pleasure:

 

- This is the year Joe Burns finally gets cut. Keep Shaud in his stead. I see why you keep Burns as FB, though. I think that will shake out differently.

- I will be very pleased if Greg Jerman is gone.

- Not so pleased if Rashad Baker is gone.

- Setta is going to catch on with somebody. Think the next Shayne Graham. Not that Lindell can't get it done for us. What a difference a year makes.

- Keep Cieslak, dump Neufeld.

- From our WR cuts, 1-2 will emerge on other NFL rosters. I'd love to see Wilson stay, if only to see him pat JP on the helmet a few more times.

- I guess we keep 4 OGs, but not sure about Gibson.

- Interesting you see Ellison holding on. I'll have to keep an eye on him. Ezekial probably does get cut at this point.

Posted
I suspect the only truly controversial moves I made were having 2 QB and 3 DE on the roster. In my defense, I'd prefer having a couple extra special teamers instead of a crappy 3rd-string QB (Moorman > Holcomb) or a crappy backup DE (one of our DT's or LB's > Josh Cooper, Eric Powell, etc...).

 

ROSTER:

 

K Rian Lindell

P Brian Moorman

LS Mike Schneck

 

QB JP Losman

QB Craig Nall  -------------------HOLCOMB STAYS

 

RB Willis McGahee

RB Lionel Gates

RB Anthony Thomas

FB Alan Ricard          --------------------SHELTON DOESN'T GET CUT

FB Joe Burns  ---------------------BURNS OFFICIALLY GETS THE BOOT

 

WR Lee Evans

WR Peerless Price

WR Josh Reed

WR Andre’ Davis

WR Sam Aiken

WR Roscoe Parrish

 

TE Robert Royal

TE Ryan Neufeld

TE Kevin Everett  ---------I'D BE SURPRISED BUT NOT SHOCKED IF CEISLAK GOES

 

LT Mike Gandy

LT Terrance Pennington

RT Jason Peters

RT Brad Butler

LG Tutan Reyes

LG Raymond Preston

RG Chris Villarial

RG Aaron Gibson 

C Melvin Fowler

C Justin Geisinger

 

DE Aaron Schobel

DE Ryan Denney

DE Chris Kelsay    ----------GOTTA HAVE A 4TH DE

DT Larry Tripplett

DT Kyle Williams

DT John McCargo

DT Tim Anderson

 

OLB Takeo Spikes

OLB Angelo Crowell

OLB Mario Haggan

OLB Keith Ellison

OLB Josh Stamer

MLB London Fletcher-Baker

MLB Courtney Watson

 

CB Nate Clements

CB Terrence McGee

CB Ashton Youboty

CB Eric King

CB Jabari Greer

SS Donte Whitner

SS Matt Bowen

SS Coy Wire

FS Troy Vincent

FS Ko Simpson

 

PRACTICE SQUAD:

 

QB Craig Ochs

RB Fred Jackson

WR Martin Nance

TE Brad Cieslak

C Aaron Merz 

DE Ryan Neill

MLB John DiGiorgio

CB Eric Bassey

 

CUTS: 

 

K Nick Setta

QB Kliff Kingsbury

QB Tory Woodbury

QB Kelly Holcomb

RB Shaud Williams

FB Daimon Shelton

FB Jon Goldsberry  -----IT'S A SHAME I LIKE THIS GUY

WR Jonathan Smith

WR Chris Denney

WR George Wilson

T Matt Morgan

T Dylan McFarland

G Greg Jerman

G Jason Thomas

DE Joshua Cooper

DE Jason Hall

DE Eric Powell

DT Jason Jefferson

DT LaWaylon Brown

DT Lauvale Sape

DT Tai Tupai

OLB Wendell Hunter

MLB Liam Ezekiel  --------------HE MAY DO ENOUGH TO STICK AROUND

CB Kiwaukee Thomas

CB James Bethea

S Rob Lee

S Rashad Baker  -------DON'T SEE HIM GETTING CUT

S Jim Leonhard  ------- I LIKE LEONHARD A LOT BUT I AGREE

 

Discuss.

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Posted

Three SS's?

 

If Whitner is the starter then either Bowen or Wire have to go.

 

Do teams get a 53 man roster and 8 on the practice squad? That's a lot of players. <_<

Posted

- I think they'll keep fewer OL than you have listed, there's a reason they want guys to be able to play multple positions. My guess is they'll cut Gibson and Pennington (who will go to the PS), while keeping Morgon.

 

- They'll keep at least 5DTs. With the rotation they want to have they'll need more as insurance against injury, though I'm not sure who they'll keep, perhaps Sape.

 

- They'll cut Wire and keep Baker. Wire is solid on ST but the Bills are loaded with solid ST players, there's no need to carry a guy when that's his primary function on the team. Also Whittner and Bowen have the SS spot pretty well covered and there's little chance Wire would end up playing at all. However on the other side is Vincent goes down (he is 37) I think they'd like to have a vet back there as a (pun coming) safety valve.

 

- I don't think Burns is going to make the squad over Shelton.

 

- Holcomb won't be cut

 

- I'm not sure they'll carry 5 OLB, Ellison might be on the practice squad instead of the active roster (granted if they only carry 4 OLB that might leave room on the team for another S which would mean Wire gets to stay).

Posted
I suspect the only truly controversial moves I made were having 2 QB and 3 DE on the roster. In my defense, I'd prefer having a couple extra special teamers instead of a crappy 3rd-string QB (Moorman > Holcomb) or a crappy backup DE (one of our DT's or LB's > Josh Cooper, Eric Powell, etc...).

 

ROSTER:

 

QB JP Losman

QB Craig Nall

 

Discuss.

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I stopped right there, you are crazy to suggest we would cut KH and go into the season with 2 Qbs.

Posted

Keep Cieslak, toss Neufield. Can't understand keeping Coy Wire. Also, think ya gotta have 3 QBs. (Maybe pick up Jared Lorenzen - he can double as a FB and free up another spot - then cut Burns and keep Nance?)

Posted

My roster

 

Losman

Nall

Holcomb

 

McGahee

Gates

Thomas

Ricard

 

Evans

Reed

Price

Aiken

Parrish

 

Royal

Everett

Neufeld

 

Gandy

Reyes

Fowler

Willarial

Peters

Preston

Geisinger

Gibson

McFarland

 

Tripplet

McCargo

Williams

Anderson

Sape

Schobel

Kelsay

Denney

 

Spikes

Fletcher

Crowell

Haggan

Stamer

Ezekiel

Watson

 

Clements

McGee

Youboty

Greer

King

Vincent

Whitner

Baker

Bowen

Simpson

 

Moorman

Lindell

Schneck

 

I was going back and forth between Ellison and King, but finally opted for King to make it

 

PS

Nance

Denney

Gerts

Pennington

Ellison

DiGiorgio

Ochs

Bassey

Posted
I like that roster, except I'd cut Vincent and keep Ellison.  I might take Powell over Sape since Denney could play tackle if he had to.

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I don't think they cut Vincent. I wouldn't be sad if he is cut and offered a job as a coach. But that will come next year.

good point on Denney being able to play some tackle, that makes sense, since Powell had a good game against Carolina.

Posted

Thanks for the responses, guys. I will update this roster again after tonight's game.

 

Here's some of my comments about what you've all said:

 

1. Going with 2 QB's is definitely atypical, but it's been done many times before in this league. The Bills did it in 2002, I believe, with only Drew and AVP. Nevertheless, my roster prediction is supposed to be what I think will happen, not what I think SHOULD happen...so I will probably add Kelly back onto my roster <_< .

 

2. I kept Wire for his ST play only, though I understand a lot of you hate him for that as well. I'll continue to believe a "captain" of the special teams must have some ability in this facet of the game, because we all know Wire didn't make the 2004 and 2005 roster by his safety skills.

 

3. I kept Burns for the same reason I kept Wire, and Ricard adds more dimensions to the game than does Shelton (who is more or less just a blocking fullback, and not that great of one....).

 

4. Keeping only 3 DE's, like with the 2 QB's, has been done many times before in this league. Last year, we only kept 3. This year, the talent beyond Kelsay and Denney is just as bad...though I could see a 4th DE picked up from some other team. I'll keep an eye out for Powell tonight. I didn't pay too much attention to him in the preseaon game, though I do notice that he's now the 4th DE on the "official" depth chart.

 

5. Ellison is a great fit for a Tampa-2 OLB...I'm predicting that it will be a matter of days before the accolades start rolling in :devil: . Conversely, I still don't see what all the lovefest over Ezekiel is about...he hasn't shown me anything so far.

 

6. Vincent won't be cut. The hate for him on this message board is slowly approaching Wire level, but he's still a solid starter who has the speed and intelligence to play FS at a high level. Last year, he didn't look as good because NO ONE in our secondary looked all that good (but he still led the team in INT's). As a former DB in high school, I know how difficult it is to play back there when your front 4 is giving the QB and WR's all day. Levy didn't cut Vincent like he did Milloy because - unlike Milloy - Vincent fits our new Tampa D.

 

7. Neufeld's a great blocker and - you can see a pattern here with my roster choices - good on ST's. Cieslak has been quiet since preseason began...not sure why.

 

8. Baker's not a bad player, and he'll make someone else's team. But I'm not so sure he fits our new D system like Vincent and Simpson do.

 

9. I might have mixed Merz and Pennington up when I formed my opinions of them from the Carolina game. I'll pay better attention to these OL guys tonight.

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