tennesseeboy Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Listening to Sirius on the way in, Adam mentioned that he didn't see the bills going anywhere because of its poor offensive line. Rice mentioned the loss of Moulds and his belief that the Bills receiving corps was not very good. He also seemed surprised that the Bills let Posey go. Spoke highly of Dick Jauron as an interviewee. Just didn't see the bills doing anything and did not mention the quarterback. The impression I got was "Even if Losman is good, don't expect the bills to go very far, since the o-line isn't much, the receivers are mediocre and there isn't much to crow about. I think the Bills are better than THAT...but I gotta admit this is not the year to bet the farm on us making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_Chick Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I don't think we'll make the playoffs either, but because of our QB play not the recievers. Evans is good, but we have no clear #2. Sometimes you wonder how much people like Rice actually research different teams situations, especially teams that are off of the radar -- like the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Listening to Sirius on the way in, Adam mentioned that he didn't see the bills going anywhere because of its poor offensive line. Rice mentioned the loss of Moulds and his belief that the Bills receiving corps was not very good. He also seemed surprised that the Bills let Posey go. Spoke highly of Dick Jauron as an interviewee. Just didn't see the bills doing anything and did not mention the quarterback. The impression I got was "Even if Losman is good, don't expect the bills to go very far, since the o-line isn't much, the receivers are mediocre and there isn't much to crow about.I think the Bills are better than THAT...but I gotta admit this is not the year to bet the farm on us making the playoffs. 744469[/snapback] Adam who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. 744475[/snapback] Jerry Rice (and maybe even erry Rice) is proof that just because a person is a great football player, it doesn't necessarily mean they are great broadcast announcers. I just can't listen to him stumble through his ANALysis of QBs (they all "have to mature, develop, blah blah blah...") or his far too frequent mispronouncing of players' names. Maybe it's a San Fran thing? After all, Randy Cross is annoying and Ronnie Lott was perhaps the worst broadcaster of all, and that includes Eric Dickerson ("Al?") and TMEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Adam who? 744484[/snapback] Adam Schein. He's a blustery blowhard who does seem to prepare and possess a good bit of football knowledge, but is also difficult to listen to because he's always yelling. He was a big Donahoe/Mularkey supporter last year because they were "friends of the show." I think he's lukewarm on Levy/Jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Adam Schein. He's a blustery blowhard who does seem to prepare and possess a good bit of football knowledge, but is also difficult to listen to because he's always yelling. He was a big Donahoe/Mularkey supporter last year because they were "friends of the show." I think he's lukewarm on Levy/Jauron. 744492[/snapback] Thanks! For a moment, I thought Tenny was channeling Eve's husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. 744475[/snapback] Didn't Jerry Rice and Moulds train somewhere down South a couple of offseasons ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Adam Schein. He's a blustery blowhard who does seem to prepare and possess a good bit of football knowledge, but is also difficult to listen to because he's always yelling. He was a big Donahoe/Mularkey supporter last year because they were "friends of the show." I think he's lukewarm on Levy/Jauron. 744492[/snapback] Thanks to Schein, I've discovered that our first round picks are actually related: Donte Whitner-Reach, and John McCargo-Reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. 744475[/snapback] Agreed, the only reason he's on the air is his name. All he's doing is taking air time away from someone good like Solomon Wilcots (may have been a marginal player in comparison, but much better on the air IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I don't think we'll make the playoffs either, but because of our QB play not the recievers. Evans is good, but we have no clear #2. 744478[/snapback] Name the #2 WR for the New England Patriots.... Name the #2 WR for the defending super bowl champions the Steelers Name the #2 WR for the Jacksonville Jaguars Name the #2 WR for the Miami Dolphins... Name the #2 WR for the Kansas City Chiefs These are 5 teams in the AFC who are supposed to be in this years playoffs as per all the pundits on the air waves..... I think Peerless Price has accomplished much more than any of the #2 WRs on those "Playoff Sure Cannot Miss" teams in the AFC..... To say that we won't be a good team because we don't have a #2 WR smacks of these peoples ignorance to shoo off the non-charismatic teams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I wouldn't put much stock in anything Rice says. If you spliced together all of the film on the Bills he watched to prepare for this statement my guess is it would be less than 30 seconds, probably about 30 seconds less than 30. We've got our problems, but Rice has no idea what they are below a very superficial level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Agreed, the only reason he's on the air is his name. All he's doing is taking air time away from someone good like Solomon Wilcots (may have been a marginal player in comparison, but much better on the air IMO). 744507[/snapback] It borders on sickening to hear Schein crawl between Jerry's cheeks and pucker up. I always thought Adam was a little "over-excited" but the way he fawns over Rice has knocked his credibility for a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 When does Riggins get back? Or, is Rice his replacement? I sure hope not. Riggins isn't great, but I mind him a lot less than I do Rice. Of course, they really need for Shannon Sharpe and Cris Carter to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. 744475[/snapback] Of course, no nationally recognized football guy could EVER tell the truth about the Bills. It's all a vast media conspiracy to talk sh-- about Buffao. jees, some of you should really adjust your tinfoil helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Nevertheless, I will still listen whoever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 When does Riggins get back? Or, is Rice his replacement? I sure hope not. Riggins isn't great, but I mind him a lot less than I do Rice. Of course, they really need for Shannon Sharpe and Cris Carter to return. 744524[/snapback] The belchings from Cris Collinsworth and Bob Trumpy afflict us here in Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSCOE P. COE TRAIN Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Disclaimer: My opinion has NOTHING to do with Jerry's comments concerning the Bills' personnel. Jerry Rice is BRUTAL on the radio. I tried to listen to him a few times and had to turn the channel. He has done NO research on the Bills, I guarantee. Any opinion he gives will be from the standpoint of a primadonna HOFer. He will support veterans (i.e., friends) and talk up those with whom he has had personal relationships. 744475[/snapback] Dude, are you Ralph Wilson's butler or driver or something? You got to be on the payroll, right? Jerry Rice's opinion is HIGHYL salient. He has been around -- and is the best player in the games history ever. His opinion stated -- fairly -- that the OL and QB = trouble for a young and average WR core. The WR core here has no large WR -- which are the protypical types now (6-3, 220); nor do they have any experience outside of an average P. Price who can't change directions if his life depended on it. Rices' comments from afar, are right on point. In light of Moulds being gone, the pressure will be even greater on Evans to beat double teams. ANd Passish has to show he can stay healthy. The jury has rendered its verdict on JOsh Reed == great college player, HORRIBLE pro game speed player. Aiken is a spare part. Davis was brought in to sooth KH . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Listening to Sirius... 744469[/snapback] This just in...ex-players like Rice who are new to broadcasting know zilch about non-marquee players around the league. They haven't had the time or willingness to study teams rosters, or do the scouting that would allow their opinion to matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I don't think we'll make the playoffs either, but because of our QB play not the recievers. Evans is good, but we have no clear #2. Sometimes you wonder how much people like Rice actually research different teams situations, especially teams that are off of the radar -- like the Bills. 744478[/snapback] Actually, I also do not think we will make the playoffs but this will not be because of any one unit or one player failure (we love to have one hero or one guy to blame since our brains are to small to focus on two or more people (unless they are fighting then we can focus on two sides, but if there are more than two sets of interests we still boil it down to one side is good and the other is evil in orderto avoid the complexities of understanding multiple interests). I think the problem that the Bills will have to overcome in order to be productive is having multiple items function together rather than have one unit be stars or one unit drag it all down. The whole can actually be much greater than the sum of the parts. If the Bills get good (but not great or even very good) play from the receivers, AND good play (but again not great or even bery good)from the OL, and good play (and again not great and not even very good) from McGahee as a receiver, AND get good play design and play calling (again the same) from Fairchild, I think good performance in all of these areas will produce a very good result and very good performance in all of these areas will produce a great result. The QB is obviously important in this because he is the conduit for all of this action and he touches the ball on most offensive plays. However, I think the QB can be simply adequate as a player on the field (not great, not very good, or not even good) if he does a good enough job at being a conduit for the team to do their stuff. I think the Bills are trying tio set-up to win even if the QB proves to be not very good on the field this year but does not make mistakes and is simply adequate. This seems like a reasonable strategy to me in that I think JP will have growing pains even if he is one day a good or very good player, I think it is doubtful that our QB will be anything more than adequate this year as he develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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