H2o Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 I think troy smith is better than both of those guys. His performance against ND last year was great. 744457[/snapback] Troy Smith is a good college QB that had more draft picks around him on the same team than the average human being has fingers and toes. Of course he should perform well. But Quinn is a far better NFL prospect.
roscoeparrishfan Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Troy Smith is a good college QB that had more draft picks around him on the same team than the average human being has fingers and toes. Of course he should perform well. But Quinn is a far better NFL prospect. 744563[/snapback] Yeah, ever since he got charlie Weiss
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 I'd hope beyond hope-again-that the Bills would consider addressing their lines. By trading down, drafing a stud tackle like Levi Brown of Penn State, and picking up an extra pick or more, they could begin to do just that. Then again, I've been saying something similar to that for years and it never gets done. Well, there was the drafting of Mike Williams...
roscoeparrishfan Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 I'd hope beyond hope-again-that the Bills would consider addressing their lines. By trading down, drafing a stud tackle like Levi Brown of Penn State, and picking up an extra pick or more, they could begin to do just that. Then again, I've been saying something similar to that for years and it never gets done. Well, there was the drafting of Mike Williams... 744581[/snapback] you know I think we should really start talking about who we are going to draft two years from now, before this season even starts. Any good freshman QB's out there. How about that Claussen kid?
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 you know I think we should really start talking about who we are going to draft two years from now, before this season even starts. Any good freshman QB's out there. How about that Claussen kid? 744584[/snapback] Oops! Back to our regularly scheduled program of: Losman Sucks Holcomb Sucks Levy Sucks Jauron Sucks Ralph Sucks The Bills Suck Whitner Was A Reach, Volumes I-VIII McCargo Was A Reach, Volumes I-IV Who's Your Favorite Bills Player? Take your pick.
roscoeparrishfan Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Oops! Back to our regularly scheduled program of: Losman Sucks Holcomb Sucks Levy Sucks Jauron Sucks Ralph Sucks The Bills Suck Whitner Was A Reach, Volumes I-VIII McCargo Was A Reach, Volumes I-IV Who's Your Favorite Bills Player? Take your pick. 744593[/snapback] Much better! lol
Red Dragon Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 If this season is a downer, which I hope it isn't, and we're picking in the top 5 in next year's draft, would you take Quinn or Leak as the QB of the Bills? Honestly, I hope Losman does GREAT this year and this question is a mute one. However, for fun, who would you rather have? 744243[/snapback] None of the above. If he comes out early, I would rather have Adrian Peterson.
R. Rich Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 None of the above. If he comes out early, I would rather have Adrian Peterson. 744605[/snapback] ...or Calvin Johnson.
stuckincincy Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 ...or Calvin Johnson. 744613[/snapback] Through luck or astuteness, B'gals have a decent OL bench. Here are some numbers of some young players to watch, with an eye towards acquisition: #62 Nate Livings G LSU, rookie #61 Pete Lougheed T Purdue, 2nd year #62 Kyle Takavitz G Cincinnati, 2nd year (sorry, not sure who is wearing #62) #67 Steven Viera G UCLA 2nd year. Rookie C Jesse Boone, Utah got cut today - he had #60. BTW, C Ben Wilkerson played most of the 2nd half against WAS - seems he's healed. Had a fair outing - but got bamboozled big time, twice. Had a nice upfield block past the LOS on a right hand sweep. '05 4th rounder C Eric Ghiaciuc Central MI played a half at RG, so Wilkerson may be the Rich Braham replacement. LT Levi Jones is out - ankle sprain.
Adam Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 well if we have a top 5 pick and before we automatically say we need to draft a qb maybe we would determine why we were a top 5 picking team.......what happens if j.p. plays lights out but the defense has no pass rush???????????you dont draft a brady quinn..just because he is there... 744244[/snapback] No, you don't draft Quinn JUST because he's there, but cause AJ Hawks sister would come along!
KOKBILLS Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Let's see what Quinn does this Year 1st... But right now it would be no contest whatsoever...Quinn by a Mile...Add to that the fact he is getting Coached everyday by one of the better NFL OC's to come along in a while, and it further adds to Quinn's Resume...He looked like Tom Brady Jr. at times last Year... I live in Charlotte, so I've followed Chris Leak since his early High School Days...He's a 6 ft. tall Pure Passer...Few of those types make it in the NFL...He'll have to overcome the lack of hight, and I'm not so sure he can do it...I hope he does though...
BuffaloBilliever Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 we didn't draft a Matt Leinart when we had the chance, why choose Brady?
H2o Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 we didn't draft a Matt Leinart when we had the chance, why choose Brady? 744798[/snapback] In the AFC East weather conditions of Buffalo and elsewhere? No way. Leinart doesn't have enough of a gun. Good for Arizona, but he doesn't seem like a guy who would excel in a cold, windy environment.
Pyrite Gal Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 If this season is a downer, which I hope it isn't, and we're picking in the top 5 in next year's draft, would you take Quinn or Leak as the QB of the Bills? Honestly, I hope Losman does GREAT this year and this question is a mute one. However, for fun, who would you rather have? 744243[/snapback] Trade down for proven vets or multiple picks so you can build a winning team. As far as QB, I certainly would not take one in the first because even if you do well in this crapshoot and do not get Ryan Leaf (or Akili, or Harrington, etc.) it simply usually takes multiple years before your QB can lead your team to a win and the Golden Boys are not on a timeline for production in 2008 if a Quinn or Leak does well and get very lucky or more likely not until 2010 when you have enough of a team to actually make the playoffs, Some folks will point to the helmetless Ben RoboQB as an example of why a 1st round choice can win it all immediately. However, one has to go back to Dallas selecting Aikman in 89 to find a 1st round QB choice who led the team which drafted him to a QB win or even back to 1999 to find one who even led his team to a SB berth with Mcnair and TN. RoboQB right now is the exception that proves the rule you do not go after a QB in the 1st round if your goal is to win or even make it to the SB. Its much easier and cheaper to pick up a 1st rounder drafted by another team like a Dilfer and then who is run out of town to QB your team to an SB berth, or to try to find a udfa like Warner or even a low round draft choice to develop. While it is unlikely to find this person, the facts show that this type of stud is more often found with UDFAs like Delhomme or past rejects like the twice cut Brad Johnson who recently got to or won SBs like folks such as Dilfer (was cut), Warner (UDFA). Brady (2nd day draft pick. Hasselbeck (2nd day draft pick). Its amusing that folks often dismiss when these examples are brought with saying they are rarities, when actually drafting a player in the 1st round and having him take you to the SB or win it is even more rare. The main difference is that Ryan Leaf costs you huge bucks and an acceletated cap hit when he fails. but drafting a crappy late rounder who fails costs you little and a UDFA costs you the vet minimum if you keep him around to carry the clipboard or to cut him. Drafting Quinn or Leak is almost cetainly a losing strategy. Even if they are as good as Manning, they may never make it to the SB except with a ticket so far or never even take you deep into the playoffs except once so far.
smokinandjokin Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 I'm done drafting and developing QB's. It sucks. As much as we dog Bledsoe, he has been the best QB in Buffalo since 1996. He wasn't the answer, but at least he could step in and make the team competitive again, without the three-year learning curve. I wouldn't draft either Quinn or Leak, and instead go after free agent-to-be Matt Schaub from Atlanta.
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Please nobody from the Gators they've produced the most hyped QBs who produce nothing in the NFL. I think JP does have a solid year however and this point will be moot
Patience Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 The question should be Joe Thomas or Sam Baker? 745010[/snapback] Joe Thomas.
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