BILLSBACKERINLA Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Redskins | Team close to signing Posey Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:06:04 -0700 David Elfin, of the Washington Times, reports the Washington Redskins are close to signing free agent LB Jeff Posey (Bills). He played for Redskins' assistant coaches Gregg Williams, Jerry Gray and Danny Smith in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think we knew that was going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffal0 Bill5 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 They need a few more coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Okay, so let me get this straight. Gregg Williams is known as a great DC, although not a great HC. He's the highest paid assistant ever. Jeff Posey stinks. But Gregg Williams wants Jeff Posey to play for him on defense again, after watching him for three years up close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 They need a few more coaches. 743712[/snapback] See Robinson, Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Okay, so let me get this straight. Gregg Williams is known as a great DC, although not a great HC. He's the highest paid assistant ever. Jeff Posey stinks. But Gregg Williams wants Jeff Posey to play for him on defense again, after watching him for three years up close. 743716[/snapback] That's done turned into the Washington way. Every year that Snyder has been there just hasn't worked for them in one way or another. You can't buy a great team, a great team has to come together no matter who's coaching them. Posey will probably end up contributing there, but nothing great of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Okay, so let me get this straight. Gregg Williams is known as a great DC, although not a great HC. He's the highest paid assistant ever. Jeff Posey stinks. But Gregg Williams wants Jeff Posey to play for him on defense again, after watching him for three years up close. 743716[/snapback] Personally, I never thought Posey stunk, he just didn't fit well in our system. If he gets back to a 3-4 defense I believe he will thrive. Jauron even said it was hard to let him go because he was a skilled athlete but did not fit the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Now if the Patriots picked him up then we'd really know it was a mistake cutting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Personally, I never thought Posey stunk, he just didn't fit well in our system. If he gets back to a 3-4 defense I believe he will thrive. Jauron even said it was hard to let him go because he was a skilled athlete but did not fit the scheme. 743748[/snapback] I generally agree. Folks who have insisted that Posey stunk in 03 and 04 have simply not been able to offer more than their fact-opinions that this was true. Given that the facts were that he logged a chunk of time in two very productive Bills Ds, those two years, it is likely that opinions that Posey sucked these two years were simply incorrect. 05 is a different story however, in that Posey still logged a bunch of time but in a D which was not productive. The anecdotal stuff I noted is that Posey seemed to get to the QB a little too late to make a difference for us and get a sack. Both the objective facts and the anecdotal take indicate a problem for Posey. This is further reinforced by the Bills braintrust deciding to let him go. There are explanations for these three problems which can explain them with Posey still being productive: 1. The D did suck overall so perhaps it was not all or mostly his fault. 2. He never was utilized by the Bills as you point out in the manner he was used in a 3-4 his most productive year. 3. We let him go more because we had better players at LB (an up and coming Crowell, a recovered TKO, Watson who recovered a fumble this weekend) rather than Posey hitting the wall. However, Posey is on the backside of his career pretty clearly and he has logged a lot of minutes for us starting 16 games all three years he was here. My sense is that a judgment that Posey has always sucked is simply a non-nuanced view which is not supported by the fact in 03, 04 and 05. However, the facts do show a downturn in team productivity and it is more likely than not that GW/Gray are acting the same way in DC which saw them foolishly rely on eddie Robinson as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The Posey release for me was reminiscent of when Greggo cut Holecek because he didn't fit the system. Jauron reminds me alot of Greggo. Only difference is he isn't saying things like: "We're going to take a run at the sack record this year". Why do we have to play a Tampa 2. What would be wrong with a regular 4-3. Good coaches addapt the system to the players. Like when Wade switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 to get Cowart on the field. Why don't we play a west coast offense? It won SBs for the Niners, Packers and Broncos. If one were to make the case that the we are playing this defense because it has been successful. I hope Jauron can be adaptable if it ends up that our players might be better suited to play anotyher system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner, but I suspect the Redskins -- seeing that no one was jumping quickly to hire him -- decided to bide there time to help Posey's numbers drop a bit. Nothing makes a player re-think his contract requirements like a phone that doesn't ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Why don't we play a west coast offense? 743771[/snapback] You need a RB or two with good hands, who block well and run good patterns, a TE that is a threat, and WR's that can work the middle and come back to the play, and a QB with a fast mind and a quick forearm/wrist release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamsBuffetTable Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 He cut Posey not only because he didn't fit the system, but also because there is another linebacker on the team who is younger that fits his system extremely well. Since there is no reason to adjust your system for the sole benefit of your second string linebacker Posey got cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The Redskins 743691[/snapback] I find the title of your thread offensive and unsympathetic to our country's Native American history and heritage. Perhaps Ahr & Ahr & Associates can step in with some representation here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I find the title of your thread offensive and unsympathetic to our country's Native American history and heritage. Perhaps Ahr & Ahr & Associates can step in with some representation here... 743815[/snapback] How bout we call Kleenex and Kleenex and get you some tissues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I find the title of your thread offensive and unsympathetic to our country's Native American history and heritage. Perhaps Ahr & Ahr & Associates can step in with some representation here... 743815[/snapback] I just received a PM that from a well known poster that I was asked to share... BILLSBACKERINLA, You are engaging in line infringement. We must ask that you cease and desist from this activity immediately. Further violations could result in legal action. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I just received a PM that from a well known poster that I was asked to share...BILLSBACKERINLA, You are engaging in line infringement. We must ask that you cease and desist from this activity immediately. Further violations could result in legal action. Thank you. 743837[/snapback] Excellent! They are on the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 You need a RB or two with good hands, who block well and run good patterns, a TE that is a threat, and WR's that can work the middle and come back to the play, and a QB with a fast mind and a quick forearm/wrist release. 743783[/snapback] I was being sarcastic about the west coast offense. For me it makes as much sense to play the Tampa two as it would to play the West Coast Offense. Jauron seems really stubborn about playing the Tampa 2 just like Greggo was about the "46" hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 i wouldnt say posey sucked. he just didnt stand out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Where Posey excelled was with pass coverage. Could he be the Redskins Eddie Robinson. He could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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