Why do NFL people draft these guys?

[Sen. John Blutarsky]

Linky

 

He wants to be released, Saban says no...as though

A. He's ever going to play well

B. He has ANY value to another team at this point.

 

This is why Saban's eventually going to flame-out in Miami. He doesn't have 80 scholarships to mask a guy like this. He wasted a 5th rounder, money, a roster spot, and countless time on this guy when most other teams wouldn't touch him and now says he won't cut him? Nick, it's time to walk away from this train wreck. He didn't see it 2 years ago and apparently doesn't see it now. Same deal with Wicky, rather than cut bait he's hanging on, as though he can red-shirt somebody and hope he pulls it together. Really though, feel free to keep as many of these guys as you want on the squad. Oh, and sign Bennie to a LONG LONG deal for BIG BIG money, he's got big upside...or is that backside?

[Pyrite Gal]

There are several reasons he would not want to release such a player:

 

1, Assuming that there is some mental medical issue like depression, the team offering to hang in there and help and not let someone run away from their problem mrely because then you get to wash your hands of it is the tough and correct thing to do. I doubt that this corporation is thinking very much about what is good for a human being, but playing that game is part of the rationale.

 

2. Given a bow to the PC points there are a number of mercenary reasons for doing this which begin with the team does not want to get in the habit of letting guys become FAs by throwing a hissy fit or having a problem, This is why Saban is saying if there is a problem we'll help you deal with it, but if you refuse help we are in charge and you are not. Control of corporateassets is ley for the business.

 

3. I do not know how well he performed last year, but if he has any trade value whatsoever you want to nip in the bud for this player or show the league that you do not release guys routinely that they want to sign. Its why the Bills said very nice things about miscreants like Travis Henry and Eric Moulds who clearly now and it seemed strongly at the time they were not gonna be Bills that upcoming season. However, they kept a line out there that the player was valued and would be kept and that was the only way the could trade them.

 

4, Saban has a problem here if the knows that a player wil not sign with him, but Wright did. Perhaps he thought he might not last, but even this seems doubtful as it was actually a post-signing embarassment that makes him want to leave the team. Saban may have made a bad read on his character (it happens to many teams in the draft and we misread Whitner for example on the issue of getting to camp quickly) but I doubt he envisioned Wright imploding like this. Even if he did, it really was just a second day draft pick which really is assigned far greater value by fans than by teams. Even if Saban took a risk it was a pretty small one.

 

Wright's days as a Fin appear to be numbered, but the Fins have drawn a line that says that his daus in the NFL will likely be numbered as well unless he shapes up. If the Fins do not let him go until after this season, even if he has talent a UDFA who has not been polluted by another system (without Wright even having the benefit of a lot Fin reps to show for it) will be less desirable to a team than a UDFA who is not as talented as Wright but a couiplr of years younger when the average life span of an NFL player is only about 5 seasons.

[generaLee83]

Linky

 

He wants to be released, Saban says no...as though

A. He's ever going to play well

B. He has ANY value to another team at this point.

 

This is why Saban's eventually going to flame-out in Miami.  He doesn't have 80 scholarships to mask a guy like this.  He wasted a 5th rounder, money, a roster spot, and countless time on this guy when most other teams wouldn't touch him and now says he won't cut him?  Nick, it's time to walk away from this train wreck.  He didn't see it 2 years ago and apparently doesn't see it now.  Same deal with Wicky, rather than cut bait he's hanging on, as though he can red-shirt somebody and hope he pulls it together.  Really though, feel free to keep as many of these guys as you want on the squad.  Oh, and sign Bennie to a LONG LONG deal for BIG BIG money, he's got big upside...or is that backside?

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I certainly make no joke of depression but does this guy think he's going to get signed elsewhere if Saban decides to do him this one favor.

[Sen. John Blutarsky]

There are several reasons he would not want to release such a player:

 

1, Assuming that there is some mental medical issue like depression, the team offering to hang in there and help and not let someone run away from their problem mrely because then you get to wash your hands of it is the tough and correct thing to do.  I doubt that this corporation is thinking very much about what is good for a human being, but playing that game is part of the rationale.

 

2. Given a bow to the PC points there are a number of mercenary reasons for doing this which begin with the team does not want to get in the habit of letting guys become FAs by throwing a hissy fit or having a problem,  This is why Saban is saying if there is a problem we'll help you deal with it, but if you refuse help we are in charge and you are not.  Control of corporateassets is ley for the business.

 

3. I do not know how well he performed last year, but if he has any trade value whatsoever you want to nip in the bud for this player or show the league that you do not release guys routinely that they want to sign.  Its why the Bills said very nice things about miscreants like Travis Henry and Eric Moulds who clearly now and it seemed strongly at the time they were not gonna be Bills that upcoming season.  However, they kept a line out there that the player was valued and would be kept and that was the only way the could trade them.

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To address #1, I guess what I'm saying is there isn't a lot of room in the NFL to make decisions like that, you only have 53 spots and each player has to be productive. If as the article says he's "been depressed for awhile" he needs to be seeking treatment and if he is doing that and the Dolphins are helping him that's great. Here's the but. This isn't new behavior for this guy, he was a massive underachiever in college, he stunk last season (4 tackles, 1 sack), and is having issues again already this season.

 

#2. It's not that kind of situation, I understand your comparison to corporate America, but it is vastly different. NFL players act and are treated much differently than normal "corporate assets". But to go along with the analogy think of it this way, you have an employee who submits a resignation letter and you reject the resignation forcing the employee either to remain or quit, and thus screw up their reference base (particularly if they've been with the company for awhile) It's bad either way, you either have a person who underperforms because they have expressed a desire to leave, or they have to screw themselves and walk away, both options would be noticted by the other employees as well and, depending on how well liked the employee was create some animosity toward the supervisor and company. Which leads me into #3.

 

#3. Manny Wright really doesn't have any value to another franchise at this point. Noone is going to give up a draft pick to take him off your hands based on his TC situations 2 years running, screw-ups in college and his 4 tackle season last year. They only way to be rid of him is to release him. Which, if you are evaluating his performance to date, in the NFL and college, is sub-standard and unacceptable. When you add the ongoing headache of his behavior to that it begs the question why does he remain there?

 

Saban has total control down there. It was his call to bring Wright in in the first place, when he and all the other GMs knew about his issues. It will be his call as to when his is released. My point over-all, is that Saban seems to be hanging on too long with players who have given no indication that they a. have changed, b. will ever change, or c. have any desire TO change. You can get away with that moreso in college because you have 80- scholarships to give out, you can have 4 or 5 guys that aren't working out but you keep them on scholarship because they might be good kids and you don't want to take their education away and MAYBE by the time they're seniors they'll put it all together and be special. You can't do that in the NFL, if you don't produce you are gone and you need to be gone, whatever the reasons for it. There aren't enough roster spots or cap space to be charitable.