beerme1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I have a question that relates to a prior thread, but I'm not sure who had the auto plant expertise. Roll call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I have a question that relates to a prior thread, but I'm not sure who had the auto plant expertise.Roll call. 739616[/snapback] You rang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 You guys gave me grief about a comment I made about the old adage never buy a car made on a Monday. The reply's were thats an ignorant thought considering paydays are Wednesday or Tuesday or whatever. I am intereseted in new Ford (a problem in and of itself) but someone I know who lives in the town where the plant is says to me "everyone I know who works there is a lush" So I will not worry anymore about a Monday made car. But should I really worry about a new model first run made at a plant full of lushes? I have nothing against lushes. In fact, I may be one so I don't want to disparge any of them But should I worry that the Monday theory now applies across the entire production schedule? And will that be made worse by them having to install parts they are not familliar with? There is also a new model, GMC that I will be looking at but I don't know anyone who lives in the town where that vehicle will be produced so I assume it's a good bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 You guys gave me grief about a comment I made about the old adage never buy a car made on a Monday. The reply's were thats an ignorant thought considering paydays are Wednesday or Tuesday or whatever.I am intereseted in new Ford (a problem in and of itself) but someone I know who lives in the town where the plant is says to me "everyone I know who works there is a lush" So I will not worry anymore about a Monday made car. But should I really worry about a new model first run made at a plant full of lushes? I have nothing against lushes. In fact, I may be one so I don't want to disparge any of them But should I worry that the Monday theory now applies across the entire production schedule? And will that be made worse by them having to install parts they are not familliar with? There is also a new model, GMC that I will be looking at but I don't know anyone who lives in the town where that vehicle will be produced so I assume it's a good bet 739822[/snapback] You are doomed. You will feel screwed until there is an extra day of the week added, that you can somehow trust. Buy a Schwinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 You guys gave me grief about a comment I made about the old adage never buy a car made on a Monday. The reply's were thats an ignorant thought considering paydays are Wednesday or Tuesday or whatever.I am intereseted in new Ford (a problem in and of itself) but someone I know who lives in the town where the plant is says to me "everyone I know who works there is a lush" So I will not worry anymore about a Monday made car. But should I really worry about a new model first run made at a plant full of lushes? I have nothing against lushes. In fact, I may be one so I don't want to disparge any of them But should I worry that the Monday theory now applies across the entire production schedule? And will that be made worse by them having to install parts they are not familliar with? There is also a new model, GMC that I will be looking at but I don't know anyone who lives in the town where that vehicle will be produced so I assume it's a good bet 739822[/snapback] Think of all the parts that go into a car. Do you really believe all the parts were made on a Monday? Engineering and Quality practices are exponentially improved, not only from 30 years ago, but even 10 years ago. New models would not concern me, unless it was some radical new technology, ie: hybrid The "lush" comment is ridiculous, and insulting. It says more about the person you know who said that. I work in manufacturing, but not in automotive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Think of all the parts that go into a car. Do you really believe all the parts were made on a Monday? Engineering and Quality practices are exponentially improved, not only from 30 years ago, but even 10 years ago. New models would not concern me, unless it was some radical new technology, ie: hybrid The "lush" comment is ridiculous, and insulting. It says more about the person you know who said that. I work in manufacturing, but not in automotive 739899[/snapback] Dude lighten up. First of all it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at a couple of auto industry people who post on here, one of whom has chimed with his own brand of (attempted) humor. Now then to address your points and concerns. The parts may not be made on Monday, but if they are installed on a vehicle on a Monday, WATCH OUT! Consumer Reports (not that I put a whole lot of value on what they push) claims they will never recommend a first year Chrysler product because of so many past issues on said cars. I don't know if that's true or not but I read it on the internet so it's true. I get your hybrid feeling though. That is a major component to have to deal with. However I am an early adopter of new technology and usually pay more for new stuff but I am not looking at hybrid models currently. The outlay for them and how rapidly I put miles on are not a good match right now. The lush comment should not be insulting to you. Since you don't work in automotive manufacturing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 General advice is to avoid "new" models. Usually takes a year or two to work out the bugs. Is it a body redesign or a totally new model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 You are doomed. You will feel screwed until there is an extra day of the week added, that you can somehow trust. Buy a Schwinn. 739845[/snapback] Schwinn... Is owned by Pacific, he is doubly screwed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Consumer Reports (not that I put a whole lot of value on what they push) claims they will never recommend a first year Chrysler product because of so many past issues on said cars. I don't know if that's true or not but I read it on the internet so it's true.I get your hybrid feeling though. That is a major component to have to deal with. However I am an early adopter of new technology and usually pay more for new stuff but I am not looking at hybrid models currently. The outlay for them and how rapidly I put miles on are not a good match right now. 740397[/snapback] I traded my "stable" (both cars) for new ones a few months back... The cars bought were a 2006 Chrysler Pacifica Limited AWD and the other is a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Sport (Golden Eagle). I paid cash for both... Amazing what you can save if you are able to do that (was the first time in my life that I could do it). Bascially walk into the dealer and name your price or walk... Of course do your homework... I knew that they would move a higher % off the Pacifica than the TJ and haggled accordingly... The reason I went with the Jeep is because of the platform change next year to the JK... Last chance to get in on a new TJ vehicle! Let the bastardization (ie: Hummerization wannabe) begin with the '07 Wrangler... Gas isn't great... But, it ain't breaking me either... And it won't by a long shot... I live within my means in so many other ways... So as my kids get older (and saving for 10 years with older cars) I am having fun! The kids love the Jeep. Well... Maybe not that much fun... The Pacifica is in the shop with 1200 bucks damage to the front end plastic because my wife doesn't know how to pull into a parking spot!... I should have kept the beater and gave it to her for Mother's Day! Of course my gas consuming ways posted here is not intended to inflame anybody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 General advice is to avoid "new" models. Usually takes a year or two to work out the bugs. Is it a body redesign or a totally new model? 740501[/snapback] That is isnteresting... I remember reading an article about how Americans generally feel this way... Yet, Germans tend to gravitate to the new platform changes and total redesigns... What is up with those Germans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 General advice is to avoid "new" models. Usually takes a year or two to work out the bugs. Is it a body redesign or a totally new model? 740501[/snapback] The GM platform is totally new while the Ford platform is a current platform with an entirely new body. ExilledInIllinois, how do you like the Pacifica? It was a consideration for a brief time. I need to use the vehicle for work so I need utility space. The two cars I'm talking about are a Ford Edge and a GMC Acadia. Andd I might add, neither of which is a F I T!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 The GM platform is totally new while the Ford platform is a current platform with an entirely new body. ExilledInIllinois, how do you like the Pacifica? It was a consideration for a brief time. I need to use the vehicle for work so I need utility space. The two cars I'm talking about are a Ford Edge and a GMC Acadia. Andd I might add, neither of which is a F I T!! 740574[/snapback] I love it... Most the wife drives it when she isn't bumping into other cars in the parking lot... It will seat 6... The first two rows are bucket seats so even the passengers get a little extra room. Quiet ride and smooth handling... Has the autostik(clutchless stick... That will take over for you if you get get lazy... ), find that I just put it in drive (which is the overdrive mode) unless I am towing. Kinda put a lot of miles (4k in over 2 months) going to the ADKS and St. Louis the last couple months, but that will slow down. Slight drawback for some is that it recommends 89 or higher octane, will take 87 in a pinch.... Hooked on the Jeep though... Had one in the later 1980's and I think I am reliving my younger days... I am already dismantling the thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Oh... I hear the Karma Chameleon package for the FIT is highly recommended, some have even went with the doilies... But serious... I like the concept of DOD (displacement on demand)... But, I am going to give it some more time... I don't change rides too often and when I do, they will have it all worked out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 That is isnteresting... I remember reading an article about how Americans generally feel this way... Yet, Germans tend to gravitate to the new platform changes and total redesigns... What is up with those Germans? 740542[/snapback] My uncle bought the Ford Escort "World Car" back when it first came out in 1981. That thing was in the shop for something about every month. I don't think he kept it more than a year. Up to this point, I've always bought used, usually going for the two to three year old vehicles, which are either leased or rental vehicles. One way to tell is by mileage, a lease vehicle will usually be around 12,000 miles times the number of years old it is, since people don't want to go over their agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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