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Why would conservatives all across the country want to support these Christ-killers?

 

Old thinking: Jews are Christ-killers

New Thinking: The Jewish state is intrinsically linked to the return of Jesus!

 

Aren't these the same demented America haters that own Hollywood, and run the liberal media, commie socialists kibbutzing around communes, contaminating our childrens' minds at universities, and dominating that cesspool Hymietown?

 

Nope. Those folks have lost their Jewishness and don't count.

 

 

 

 

What gives? Let the crazy Arabs have at 'em. At least for awhile.

 

 

 

This is troubling. Next thing you know they will be serving tabouli in Tel Aviv and

New York, and Jesus will refuse to come back and eat the stuff.

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So I guess 120% is really possible. I always thought that was a dumb thing to say.

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This is tied to effort inflation.

 

People want me to give 110% so when I'm only giving a 100% effort it looks like I'm loafing but in fact I am giving 100% which is 91% of my usual 110% effort.

 

Now Joe is giving 120% and that is going to make my 100% effort look like a pedestrian

83%.

 

Thanks Joe <_<

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This is tied to effort inflation.

 

People want me to give 110% so when I'm only giving a 100% effort it looks like I'm loafing but in fact I am giving 100% which is 91% of my usual 110% effort.

 

Now Joe is giving 120% and that is going to make my 100% effort look like a pedestrian

83%.

 

Thanks Joe <_<

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Great. Now two grouches. It's all those America hating anarchists disguising themselves as liberseratives who actually love Hizbollah. I hate them all.

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Great. Now two grouches. It's all those America hating anarchists disguising themselves as liberseratives who actually love Hizbollah. I hate them all.

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Heard a commentator on the radio this morning (a liberal commentator, no less - typically one of the biggest Democratic shills I've ever heard) explaining how Lieberman's loss was due to the "Hezbollah Democrats". <_<

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Why would conservatives all across the country want to support these Christ-killers?

 

Old thinking: Jews are Christ-killers

New Thinking: The Jewish state is intrinsically linked to the return of Jesus!

 

Aren't these the same demented America haters that own Hollywood, and run the liberal media, commie socialists kibbutzing around communes, contaminating our childrens' minds at universities, and dominating that cesspool Hymietown?

 

Nope. Those folks have lost their Jewishness and don't count.

What gives? Let the crazy Arabs have at 'em. At least for awhile.

This is troubling. Next thing you know they will be serving tabouli in Tel Aviv and

New York, and Jesus will refuse to come back and eat the stuff.

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I'm betting the Lord is a falafel man, and he likes Azuri Cafe.

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Great. Now two grouches. It's all those America hating anarchists disguising themselves as liberseratives who actually love Hizbollah. I hate them all.

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If you are under thirty and not an America hating anarchist you have no heart.

If you are over thirty and you're still an America hating anarchist then you have no

401K.

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Heard a commentator on the radio this morning (a liberal commentator, no less - typically one of the biggest Democratic shills I've ever heard) explaining how Lieberman's loss was due to the "Hezbollah Democrats".  <_<

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The Hizbollah Dems and the Soccer Moms form quite a block in NE ;)

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This liberals love Hizbollah crap is really pissing me off. It's the equivalent of a Bills fan badmouthing the Bills for a game against Miami because they sucked and were stupid and then concluding that fan is "a Dolphin lover". It's monumentally stupid.

 

I think Israel is doing the wrong thing. And I am Jewish. I don't know what the right thing is. But I am pretty convinced that they are creating 1,000 Hizbollah for every 100 they kill. That is bad, IMO. That means more Israelies die in the long run. That's bad, IMO. That means this insanity goes on longer with even more bitter feelings between the two sides. That's also bad, IMO. I could be wrong.

 

I also firmly believe that Iran and Syria are loving this. And Israels actions are rewarding Satanic behavior. Iran and Syria will replenish Hizbollah with all the rockets and arms they want because this is going great for them. That's bad. That's why I think this is backfiring.

 

I also wish every single member of Hizbollah dies a slow horrible death and every single Lebanese that helps them gets seriously wounded or dies themselves. But I guess that means I love Hizbollah because I criticize Israel.

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This liberals love Hizbollah crap is really pissing me off. It's the equivalent of a Bills fan badmouthing the Bills for a game against Miami because they sucked and were stupid and then concluding that fan is "a Dolphin lover". It's monumentally stupid.

 

I think israel is doing the wrong thing. And I am Jewish. I don't know what the right thing is. But I am pretty convinced that they are creating 1,000 Hizbollah for every 100 they kill. That is bad, IMO. That means more Israelies die in the long run. That's bad, IMO. That means this insanity goes on longer were even more bitter feelings between the two sides. That's also bad, IMO. I could be wrong.

 

I also firmly believe that Iran and Syria are loving this. And Israels actions are rewarding Satanic behavior. Iran and Syria will replenish Hizbollah with all the rockets and arms they want because this is going great for them. That's bad. That's why I think this is backfiring.

 

I also wish every single member of Hizbollah  dies a slow horrible death and every single Lebanese that helps them gets seriously wounded or dies themselves. But I guess that means I love Hizbollah because I criticize Israel.

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No, it doesn't. But members of Hizbollah won't die a slow horrible death....UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY TRY KILLING THEM.

 

You can't talk with terrorists. You can't bargain with extremists. Hell, it's probably impossible to reason with ANYONE in the middle east, Israel or otherwise. There's too much hatred and it will never (short of a massively bloody conflict) be resolved.

 

Criticize Israel. all you like, but understand they didn't start this. And despite the whining of a James Zogby about a "bloodbath" in lebanon, there really is no way Israel can win this thing. Any way they go, they come out in bad shape. At least they're being proactive.

 

If they leave under international pressure, Hizbollah wins. If they continue to fight, Hizbollah wins. What would you have your government do if it was in that situation?

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No, it doesn't. But members of Hizbollah won't die a slow horrible death....UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY TRY KILLING THEM.

 

You can't talk with terrorists. You can't bargain with extremists. Hell, it's probably impossible to reason with ANYONE in the middle east, Israel or otherwise. There's too much hatred and it will never (short of a massively bloody conflict) be resolved.

 

Criticize Israel. all you like, but understand they didn't start this. And despite the whining of a James Zogby about a "bloodbath" in lebanon, there really is no way Israel can win this thing. Any way they go, they come out in bad shape. At least they're being proactive.

 

If they leave under international pressure, Hizbollah wins. If they continue to fight, Hizbollah wins. What would you have your government do if it was in that situation?

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Killing 1000 Hizbollah and creating 10,000 Hizbollah is a bigger problem than killing none of them. I don't have a solution. There is no good solution. There ARE bad solutions. This is one of them. Israel, much to my dismay and horror, is going to come out looking bad, gaining little, losing a few hundred or thousand of its citizens, AND creating more enemies locally and globally. I would say that's a bad solution.

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Killing 1000 Hizbollah and creating 10,000 Hizbollah is a bigger problem than killing none of them. I don't have a solution. There is no good solution. There ARE bad solutions. This is one of them. Israel, much to my dismay and horror, is going to come out looking bad, gaining little, losing a few hundred or thousand of its citizens, AND creating more enemies locally and globally. I would say that's a bad solution.

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That's a simplistic ovesrsimplification. Your theory rests on the supposition that if Israel doesn't fight back, things will be better than if it does. (More later, I'm hungry)

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That's a simplistic ovesrsimplification.  Your theory rests on the supposition that if Israel doesn't fight back, things will be better than if it does.  (More later, I'm hungry)

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No. I didn't say or mean that. I know they must do something. My theory is things will be better than if Irael doesn't do THIS, what it is doing right now.

 

I really don't know what the right thing is. But again, this way seems to have little gain and huge sacrifice, ramifications, and loss of life and stature. If Hizbollah were just the worthless scumbags they have always been, I would say this is smart and it would be worth it. But since they now have the arms and rocketry of the two real scumbag nations Syria and Iran to supply them (and an endless supply IMO because again Iran and Syria are loving this), fighting them this way and trying to knock them out no longer works.

 

Usually I am of the opinion that one must have answers, or at least a suggestion of alternative views. And I usually do. This time, I really don't. I am not close enough to it or know enough about it. There are times, however, when one can clearly say this is wrong and bad and backfiring, as long as you don't always just say "this is bad", "this is bad", "this is bad" and never have any alternatives.

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That's a simplistic ovesrsimplification.  Your theory rests on the supposition that if Israel doesn't fight back, things will be better than if it does.  (More later, I'm hungry)

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I think Kelly is right. That is one element of it.

 

But fight back? That seems to suggest that their actions are only reciprications.

This is an invasion that is viewed by most of the world as a proxy war, regardless of the casus belli.

 

Generally speaking, what alternatives does a pro-american lebanese have to

get his country back?

 

Forget Israel for a minute. I think this is a policy disaster for the United States.

 

 

How can there be any favorable outcome for the US in all of this?

 

Remember about 12 months ago when Lebanon was GWB's shining example of

how US policy was transforming the ME? It is now DOA.

 

What are the chances that a Pro-American Lebanese gov. emerges from this? I think slim.

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[quote name=X. Benedict' date='Aug 9 2006, 10:36 AM}

Old thinking: Jews are Christ-killers

New Thinking: The Jewish state is intrinsically linked to the return of Jesus!

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Actually, both statements are true. However, the Jewish nation didn't realize that Jesus was their Messiah. They will though.

"That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow...and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord". Philippians 2: 10,11

 

I'd hate to be part of whoever is messing around with God's Chosen People!

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