mtdoak Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 A classic bad beat was the one Aaron Kanter dealt Raymer at last years WSOP. Raymer went all in on KK on the flop and Kanter called with 3 hearts. Kanter caught runner runner heart for a flush. Talk about a suckout! 735214[/snapback] It was on the turn after Kanter check raised him and Raymer came over the top for all his chips. I don't remember the counts, but it was a call that Kanter shouldn't have made.
Pete Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 It was on the turn after Kanter check raised him and Raymer came over the top for all his chips. I don't remember the counts, but it was a call that Kanter shouldn't have made. 735228[/snapback] I was thinking it was the turn but I definately remember Kanter catching runner- runner hearts after making the call Edit- I stand corrected Kanter called Raymer's all-in with a flush draw on the turn when Raymer held K♦ K♥ and he held Q♥ J♥ with two hearts on the board and only one card to come. This was considered by many to be an incredibly awful play, characteristic of a calling station. Raymer was more than a 4-1 favourite win the hand but the river card came a heart and he lost a sizable amount of his chips.
Pete Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Heres the hand and how the bets went- http://www.cardplayer.com/hand_matchup/39 Aaron Suckout Kantner
BuffOrange Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Oh the stories I have for everyone. The WORST bad beat i've ever put on a guy was playing 5/10 Limit. Very loose player limps in front of me, I raise to isolate him with A8s. One blind calls. Flop comes 58T. Checked to me, i bet, two callers. Turn is another 8. Checked to me, I bet, BB check -raises, loose limper calls, I 3 bet, BB folds, suddenly loose limper caps me. He's a passive player, so I figure he AT least has an 8, maybe even a boat. Or he's just a dumbass (you'll find this alot with Online. Not seeing a player face to face encourages some of the dumbest crap you'll ever see). River is the last 8. He bets, i raise, he calls. Tables T T. I either had to catch running aces or 8s to beat him. Of course, he raises his TT preflop... I never see the flop. Some hands from yesterday: Hand #1. Shorthanded table. One horrible player limps, SB completes, i check in the BB with Q4s. Flop comes Q4A. I lead out with it, horrible donkey raises, SB folds, I reraise. Donkey calls. Turns a K. I bet, he calls. Rivers a T. I bet, he raises, i call. Donkey shows quite possibly the worst played J5 of all time. Hand #2. Folded to me in the CO (the seat right before the button, the cutoff), i raise with KK. SB folds, BB calls (a good player). Flop comes Q33. I bet, he instacheckraises. Poker lesson time. I'm rather sure he doesn't have a 3. I have position. And I'm playing a limit game. Rather than pop him here for 3 bets, he's going to lead into me again on the turn when the bet size doubles. Turn is a blank card. He leads into me. He bets, I raise, he calls. River, of course, is a Q. I'm 80% sure I'm beat, but I make the a call here (there's 9 big bets in the pot, so I only need to be right 11% of the time for this call to be right). Hurrah 2 outers. For those of you who have never dumped a grand or so in one night thanks to an endless string of these damn things, let me tell you, its not fun. 735208[/snapback] Your turn 3bet in the AT hand is pretty bad against a passive player. The other stuff is standard - I destroy 3/6 but can't even run mediocre @5/10 to save my life. See my BBV post on the board that shall remain nameless
mtdoak Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Your turn 3bet in the AT hand is pretty bad against a passive player. The other stuff is standard - I destroy 3/6 but can't even run mediocre @5/10 to save my life. See my BBV post on the board that shall remain nameless 735256[/snapback] The A8s hand you me? The BB was a LAG if i remember right. The passive player called 2 bets cold and THEN capped me after i 3 bet.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 I'll tell you what, I love hold 'em. But it's ridiculous how many times I get beat with pocket rockets or big slick. Last night I played in a tourney where I made it to the final two tables. I was low stack, so I was ready to go all-in on about anything. To my suprise, the dealer dealt me the pocket rockets and my greedy little heart just leapt for joy. I called the first bet until someone on the other side of the table decided to go all-in. With glee, I also went all-in, which prompted a larger-stack player to call. Everyone else dropped out. We all flipped the pocket cards over. The first all-in player had QQ, I had AA and the third had 88. The other two were devastated....until the flop came. JQK. OK, I thought. Just need a 10 or an A to triple my stack. No bigs. Fourth Street? 8. The river? 8. I fekking hate bad beats. 734287[/snapback] I find pockets to be a suckers bet because the other guy has two opportunities to hit a pair. Obviously AA or KK are pretty good, but I have seen more pocket hands lose than win. PTR
BuffOrange Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 The A8s hand you me? The BB was a LAG if i remember right. The passive player called 2 bets cold and THEN capped me after i 3 bet. 735412[/snapback] Whoops you're right, I can't read without the converter
ajzepp Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Oh the stories I have for everyone. The WORST bad beat i've ever put on a guy was playing 5/10 Limit. Very loose player limps in front of me, I raise to isolate him with A8s. One blind calls. Flop comes 58T. Checked to me, i bet, two callers. Turn is another 8. Checked to me, I bet, BB check -raises, loose limper calls, I 3 bet, BB folds, suddenly loose limper caps me. He's a passive player, so I figure he AT least has an 8, maybe even a boat. Or he's just a dumbass (you'll find this alot with Online. Not seeing a player face to face encourages some of the dumbest crap you'll ever see). River is the last 8. He bets, i raise, he calls. Tables T T. I either had to catch running aces or 8s to beat him. Of course, he raises his TT preflop... I never see the flop. Some hands from yesterday: Hand #1. Shorthanded table. One horrible player limps, SB completes, i check in the BB with Q4s. Flop comes Q4A. I lead out with it, horrible donkey raises, SB folds, I reraise. Donkey calls. Turns a K. I bet, he calls. Rivers a T. I bet, he raises, i call. Donkey shows quite possibly the worst played J5 of all time. Hand #2. Folded to me in the CO (the seat right before the button, the cutoff), i raise with KK. SB folds, BB calls (a good player). Flop comes Q33. I bet, he instacheckraises. Poker lesson time. I'm rather sure he doesn't have a 3. I have position. And I'm playing a limit game. Rather than pop him here for 3 bets, he's going to lead into me again on the turn when the bet size doubles. Turn is a blank card. He leads into me. He bets, I raise, he calls. River, of course, is a Q. I'm 80% sure I'm beat, but I make the a call here (there's 9 big bets in the pot, so I only need to be right 11% of the time for this call to be right). Hurrah 2 outers. For those of you who have never dumped a grand or so in one night thanks to an endless string of these damn things, let me tell you, its not fun. 735208[/snapback] You should try playing against PTR....the stuff that guy does....
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