Chilly Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Or, more frankly, when does Israel start to make Syria pay? I know that Syria is trying to be a golden child in all of this, but quite frankly it seems like Israel isn't buying it. And I don't either. They haven't shown at all that they truly want this to end, outside of a few unsubstantial moves of negotiations. They still want to support Hez'bollah, and they still want to play a role in Lebanese politics. It seems that now, Israel is just waiting for Syria to attack themIsrael is just waiting for Syria to attack them, so that they can make this war about what it really is: Syria versus Israel. Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria. To be honest, I agree. All Syria is doing at this point is hurting democracy in Lebanon by screwing with their politics, and they need to be driven out of it. I've always said Bush screwed up big time in Iraq for a number of reasons trying to build a democracy, but he's dead on this time. Syria needs to get the !@#$ out of Lebanese politics once and for all and let that country build strong foundations for democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Or, more frankly, when does Israel start to make Syria pay? I know that Syria is trying to be a golden child in all of this, but quite frankly it seems like Israel isn't buying it. And I don't either. They haven't shown at all that they truly want this to end, outside of a few unsubstantial moves of negotiations. They still want to support Hez'bollah, and they still want to play a role in Lebanese politics. It seems that now, Israel is just waiting for Syria to attack themIsrael is just waiting for Syria to attack them, so that they can make this war about what it really is: Syria versus Israel. To be honest, I agree. All Syria is doing at this point is hurting democracy in Lebanon by screwing with their politics, and they need to be driven out of it. I've always said Bush screwed up big time in Iraq for a number of reasons trying to build a democracy, but he's dead on this time. Syria needs to get the !@#$ out of Lebanese politics once and for all and let that country build strong foundations for democracy. 733021[/snapback] Wow, one can only imagine the middle eastern conflagration if Israel attacks Syria. Strife in Iraq, all out war between the Mulsims and Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Wow, one can only imagine the middle eastern conflagration if Israel attacks Syria. Strife in Iraq, all out war between the Mulsims and Jews. 733034[/snapback] There's also the fact that Iran has said it will come to Syria's defence if it was to be attacked by Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 Wow, one can only imagine the middle eastern conflagration if Israel attacks Syria. Strife in Iraq, all out war between the Mulsims and Jews. 733034[/snapback] And Mr. Gingrich's Presidential Campaign would be off to a good start with the publicity he could garner for himself after his World War 3 comments seemingly came true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 There's also the fact that Iran has said it will come to Syria's defence if it was to be attacked by Israel. 733038[/snapback] Either way, the situation as it stands now will be resolved. Too bad it'll take massive bloodshed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 There's also the fact that Iran has said it will come to Syria's defence if it was to be attacked by Israel. 733038[/snapback] Somebody would have to. Syria's "Air Force" is in shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Somebody would have to. Syria's "Air Force" is in shambles. 733076[/snapback] It never has been anywhere near as powerful as that of Israel's. I remember reading somewhere that the Syrian plan to counter the Israeli airforce was to use missile attacks to devastate their airfields. Whether that has any chance of success I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 It never has been anywhere near as powerful as that of Israel's. I remember reading somewhere that the Syrian plan to counter the Israeli airforce was to use missile attacks to devastate their airfields. Whether that has any chance of success I don't know. 733113[/snapback] Probably with chemical weapons, too. Syria maintains healthy CW stocks to balance the strategic threat of Israel's nukes (and vice-versa). But I wouldn't necessarily trust the Syrians NOT to use chemical weapons if they were attacked, even if such an attack were not a strategic threat to their existence. Then watch the fun begin. Plus...Syria maintains significant air defenses (they have to, their air force would last about ninety seconds against the Israelis). Regardless of the performance of the Syrian air force, the Israelis would have a difficult time penetrating the Syrian SAM belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 There's also the fact that Iran has said it will come to Syria's defence if it was to be attacked by Israel. 733038[/snapback] It's a perfect storm brewing. The Neocons are licking their chops and egging on Bush and company (and israel) to go after Iran. Israel will provoke Syria and bring them into the conflict; Iran will then be forced to support Syria; and the US will jump in to support Israel. Their plan for "regime change" in Syria and Iran is about to start. It'll probably be as successful as their plan for Iraq... Oh, but it really is about the 2 Israeli soldiers getting kidnapped... Another reason to get liquid....pass the beer please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 It's a perfect storm brewing. The Neocons are licking their chops and egging on Bush and company (and israel) to go after Iran. Israel will provoke Syria and bring them into the conflict; Iran will then be forced to support Syria; and the US will jump in to support Israel. Their plan for "regime change" in Syria and Iran is about to start. It'll probably be as successful as their plan for Iraq... Oh, but it really is about the 2 Israeli soldiers getting kidnapped... Another reason to get liquid....pass the beer please.... 733178[/snapback] Spoken in true TPS style. Time to adjust the tinfoil helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Somebody would have to. Syria's "Air Force" is in shambles. 733076[/snapback] So is Iran's. And what they do have would have to fly through Iraq to get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Spoken in true TPS style. Time to adjust the tinfoil helmet. 733222[/snapback] Presidential hopeful, Newt Gingrich had this to say on Iran.. The threat posed to the national security of the United States by Iran was likened only to the one posed by Nazi Germany in the 30's....Gingrich also suggested Tehran could be planning for a pre-emptive Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse attack on america, that would turn 1/3 or more of the USA back to the 19th century level of development..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Presidential hopeful, Newt Gingrich had this to say on Iran.. The threat posed to the national security of the United States by Iran was likened only to the one posed by Nazi Germany in the 30's....Gingrich also suggested Tehran could be planning for a pre-emptive Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse attack on america, that would turn 1/3 or more of the USA back to the 19th century level of development..... 733253[/snapback] That would carry more weight if Newt weren't condemned to be a presidential hopeful for all eternity. Really, what are you trying to demonstrate? That Newt Gingrich is nuts? We've known that for ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Spoken in true TPS style. Time to adjust the tinfoil helmet. 733222[/snapback] That would make a good picture: me in my tinfoil helmet, and you in your dunce cap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 That would carry more weight if Newt weren't condemned to be a presidential hopeful for all eternity. Really, what are you trying to demonstrate? That Newt Gingrich is nuts? We've known that for ten years. 733289[/snapback] There's got to be a youtube link in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 There's got to be a youtube link in there somewhere. 733300[/snapback] Just for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnum Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 There's got to be a youtube link in there somewhere. 733300[/snapback] Ask and you shall recieve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU...ch=bob%20dylan# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 It's a perfect storm brewing. The Neocons are licking their chops and egging on Bush and company (and israel) to go after Iran. Israel will provoke Syria and bring them into the conflict; Iran will then be forced to support Syria; and the US will jump in to support Israel. Their plan for "regime change" in Syria and Iran is about to start. It'll probably be as successful as their plan for Iraq... Oh, but it really is about the 2 Israeli soldiers getting kidnapped... Another reason to get liquid....pass the beer please.... 733178[/snapback] While conveniently ignoring that Hez kidnapped the soldiers two days after Hamas did the same. It's really amazing the power that Karl Rove can exert, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 While conveniently ignoring that Hez kidnapped the soldiers two days after Hamas did the same. It's really amazing the power that Karl Rove can exert, isn't it? 733397[/snapback] Yeah, it looks like he turned off his hurricane machine this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 That would make a good picture: me in my tinfoil helmet, and you in your dunce cap.. 733297[/snapback] Fekk you, you flaming limp-wristed commie pinko bastage!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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