ajzepp Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I have to agree. I don't know if it was part of the scheme or what but the guy always lined up 40 yards behind the line of scrimmage - it was like having 10 men on the field. I guess he managed to rack up some int's in the 80's though. 723804[/snapback] Thank you.....that's exactly correct. Marv Levy himself said the main reason he started was because he always knew his assignment.....only problem is that there wasn't much else good to say about the guy. I kid you not....go back and watch some of the games from his era, and there are LOTS of times when you'll watch a replay and Kelso will be just coming into the picture well after the opposing WR was in the damn endzone. Kelso was nothing but a liability, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Please add Matt Stevens. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 My turn to play QB: Billy Joe Hoebert, RB: Nate Turner, Darick Holmes, WR:Al Edwards, Russel Copeland FB: Tim Tindale (sorry homers) TE: Lonnie Johnson T: Mike Williams, Glenn Parker G: Jamie Nails, Mike Pucillo. Glenn Parker, Mike Devlin C: Teague, Mike Devlin DE: Erik Flowers DT: Leif Larsen, Mike Lodish, Ed Philion OLB: Eddie Robinson, Marlo Perry MLB: Brandon Spoon CB: Chris Watson, Marlon Kerner FS: Matt Darby SS: Tony Driver K: Jake Arians P: ST: Charlie Rogers HC: Mularkey OC: Kevin Gilbride DC: ST: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Tre Teague was clearly superior to Jerry Ostroski at Center, and that says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Fina was a good tackle, but his last two years here were beyond horrible. I remember seeing him, over and over again, just stand there and watch a DE run around him to the QB. It was unbelievable. He would stand there with his hands up like he was going to block, and then just turn his body and follow the player as he ran around him. I don't know if it was injury or what, but those last two years were examples of the worst OT play I remember seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Why isn't WR Perry Tuttle on this list or TE Lonnie Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I think you have to restrict the list to starters - I mean, yeah, Antonio Brown sucked as a wide receiver, that's why he was frequently inactive and never made it past 6th on the depth chart. You might as well put Rick Strom in as the worst QB. So, of players who were at least nominally starters: QB: Billy Joe Herbert, Rob Johnson, Todd Collins RB: Jonathan Linton, Shawn Bryson FB: Tim Tindale WR: Bobby Shaw, Josh Reed, Russell Copeland, Jeremy McDaniel TE: Sheldon Jackson, Bobby Collins, Lonnie Johnson OT: Robert Hicks, Jerry Crafts OG: Bennie Anderson, Mike Williams C: Billy Conaty DE: Erik Flowers, Chidi Ahanotou DT: Tim Anderson, Ron Edwards OLB: Gabe Northern, Sam Rogers ILB: Brandon Spoon, Carlton Bailey CB: Chris Watson, Mickey Washington SS: Ray Hill FS: Raion Hill K: Jake Arians P: Rick Tuten KR: Antonio Brown (where he did, in fact, start) PR: Chris Watson HC: Mike Mularkey OC: Joe Pendry DC: Walt Corey (not that bad, but vs. Cottrell, Phillips, and Gray) DLC: Chuck Dickerson OLC: Carl Mauck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 ST: Bruce DeHaven Need some help! 723670[/snapback] That had to the most brain-dead pick.........especially when we had the Jones guy who replaced him........Bruce was one of the all-time ST coaches in the NFL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 OC: Joe Pendry 723873[/snapback] Mike Shepperd had to be the worst OC we ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QB: Billy Joe Holbert - didn't read his playbook? RB: Carey Bender - Marv and his Coe College alum... WR: Bucky Brooks - 2nd round draft pick? FB: Jonathan Linton - no thanks TE: Lonnie Johnson - makes Brooks look like Rice T: Jerry Crafts - drank like a fish, blocked like one too G: Jamie Nails - Never has a 400 pound guy been more of a kitty C: Mike Devlin - anchored Arizona's OL after leaving Buffalo DE: Erik Flowers - top ten bust of all time DT: Lief Larson - proverbial strongest man at combine, to bad he didn't know how to play football OLB: Eddie Robinson - turned Pennington into Vick MLB: Corey Moore - he mostly played outside but he had to make the list CB: Chris Watson - no punt catcher category to put him in FS: Mark Kelso - "baby faced-assasin" with the ridiculous bobble-head helmet SS: Coy Wire - it's not his fault, he just sucks K: Shane Graham - figured out how to kick after he left P: Rick Tuten - 1990 BUF 34.2 Avg Net punt yardage, 10 yards below his career best and 5 yards below his career average ST: Charlie Rogers - was Terrance McGee with Det, looked like Kathrine MacPhee with Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XNorthBuffaloLad Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 ST Bruce DeHaven was an excellent ST coach! I think this is your biggets error. Wade Phillips ruined the special teams and Wade used Bruce as a scapegoat. DeHaven is still in the league and his group is always at the top. DeHaven was very successful ST coach, but it took 1 play to ruin his reputation. After we hit what was thought to be the game winning FG at Tennessee in that playoff game, there was a time-out before the kickoff in those closing seconds. Why the fupp he didn't pull his ST players aside before that kickoff (yes, that's known as 'coaching') and tell them no matter what to STAY IN YOUR LANES I'll still never know. I totally blame him for that, and that to me was just as heartbreaking as the bad coaching (time management & not running the ball enough) in our loss to the GIANTS in Super Bowl XXV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 DeHaven was very successful ST coach, but it took 1 play to ruin his reputation. After we hit what was thought to be the game winning FG at Tennessee in that playoff game, there was a time-out before the kickoff in those closing seconds. Why the fupp he didn't pull his ST players aside before that kickoff (yes, that's known as 'coaching') and tell them no matter what to STAY IN YOUR LANES I'll still never know. I totally blame him for that, and that to me was just as heartbreaking as the bad coaching (time management & not running the ball enough) in our loss to the GIANTS in Super Bowl XXV 723902[/snapback] Why is your font blue and bold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 DeHaven was very successful ST coach, but it took 1 play to ruin his reputation. 723902[/snapback] I don't know if I agree with that. I'm not sure how successful his Special Teams have been in SF and Dallas since he left Buffalo, but it seemed like even outside of the Titans game, our Special Teams sucked that whole year and pretty much every year since Tasker left up until 2004. But yeah, clearly Ronnie Jones was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Thank you.....that's exactly correct. Marv Levy himself said the main reason he started was because he always knew his assignment.....only problem is that there wasn't much else good to say about the guy. I kid you not....go back and watch some of the games from his era, and there are LOTS of times when you'll watch a replay and Kelso will be just coming into the picture well after the opposing WR was in the damn endzone. Kelso was nothing but a liability, IMO. 723807[/snapback] I remember a playoff game vs. the Raiders (not 51-3 but the freezing cold 93 game where there were like 3 missed PAT's)....Tim Brown catches a crossing pattern and just fakes Kelso out of his jockstrap en route to the endzone. Paul McGuire who was doing the game w/ Marv Albert for NBC says on the replay "Kelso just has no chance on this play"...LOL oh really no chance? He was right there in position to make the tackle, isn't that the FS's job? Anyway, I hate to trash the guy too much because he was apparantly a decent player in the 80's which I'm too young to have a sharp memory of. Also, we sadly have not had a better FS in the last 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 MLB: Damien Covington - nothing like a 5'10" 220lbs LB 723895[/snapback] He may have been small, but he doesn't belong on this list, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 He may have been small, but he doesn't belong on this list, no way. 723931[/snapback] Didn't Covington have a 19-tackle game at some point as a starter? By the way...the guy who killed him was acquitted of murder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 He may have been small, but he doesn't belong on this list, no way. 723931[/snapback] I know, I was at a loss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 He may have been small, but he doesn't belong on this list, no way. 723931[/snapback] Agreed. Covington was going to be a special player. Think London Fletcher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 The dude's such a loser, I wouldn't be surprised if he was official spokesperson for the Honda Fit. 723766[/snapback] Why do you obsess over me? Do you want to give me your Herpes? Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I've taken your list and amended it a bit. QB: Billy Joe Hobert RB: Nate Turner, Jonathan Linton WR - so many: Antonio Brown, Russell Copeland, Justin Armour, Kevin Williams, Reggie Germany FB: Damion Shelton TE: Lonnie Johnson T: Mike Williams, Greg Jerman G: Bennie Anderson, Jamie Nails, Mike Pucillo, Corbin Lacina, Joe Panos C: Trey Teague, DE: Erik Flowers, Oliver Barnett, Kendrick Office DT: Tyrone Robertson, Leif Larsen LB: Eddie Robinson, Keith Goganious, Damien Covington, Gabe Northern, Shaun Rogers CB: Chris Watson, Ken Irvin, Marlon Kerner FS: Izell Reese, Travares Tillman SS: Coy Wire, Matt Darby K: Jake Arians by a country mile P: Mohr, only by default ST: Watson, Charlie Rogers HC: Mularkey OC: Kevin Gilbride, Tom Clements DC: Jerry Gray, Walt Corey ST: Ronnie Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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