\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 Anyone following this? The governor signed the "shutdown" order on Saturday, which furloughed all state employees except for "essential personnel" (ex. state police) and stopped state spending (no paychecks to state employees, no roadway construction, etc.). The "cliff notes" version is as follows. - New Jersey is required to have a balanced budget in place by the start of the fiscal year (July 1st). - The budget is not balanced: About $4 billion short on a $35 billion budget. - Governor (democrat) wants to raise state sales tax from 6% to 7% to increase revenues. - State Senate and Assembly (both democrat majority) both reject this sales tax increase. - State Senate and Assembly each have their own plans to balance budget (cutting spending and raising other taxes). Senate and Assembly cannot agree on each other's plans, so neither plan ever makes it off the floor to a vote. - Because of impasse, Governor shuts down state government. - Because State Casino Commission oversees casinos, the Atlantic City casinos may have to shut down as well.
KD in CA Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 - Because State Casino Commission oversees casinos, the Atlantic City casinos may have to shut down as well. Or the NJ Senate will have to rush through a bill to reclassify the State Gaming Board as "essential employees". I was in AC over the weekend and stayed in Ventor last night. From the people we talked to it looks like they are making slow progress in turning the city around.
Alaska Darin Posted July 4, 2006 Posted July 4, 2006 Good. I hope they can't reach an agreement and it stays shut down for a long time. Maybe then some real concessions will be made and they'll actually cut the budget significantly. Yeah. Right.
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted July 4, 2006 Posted July 4, 2006 OH MAN that's when we're leaving to go to NJ!
IBTG81 Posted July 4, 2006 Posted July 4, 2006 This state is so corrupt it makes California look like it run by a bunch of Mother Theresa's. Our property taxes here: If you own a 600,000 home (the norm pretty much around here) your taxes are 1,000 A MONTH The cost of living is insane, and now they just want to keep raising taxes. This tends to happen when the voters vote in the same schlubs OVER AND OVER again.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 5, 2006 Author Posted July 5, 2006 Or the NJ Senate will have to rush through a bill to reclassify the State Gaming Board as "essential employees".717937[/snapback] NJ casinos close their doors, victims of state budget stalemate
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 LOL Budget's got a shortfall! What's the answer? MORE TAXES! If people ran their everyday finances like that, EVERYONE would be bankrupt.
KRC Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Gotta love when the Democratic governor and the Democrat-led legislature cannot agree on how to eff the citizens properly. "Gee, how should we raise taxes to pay for our 10% increase in spending? Can't find a solution? No problem. We will just shut down the government so that we lose millions of dollars in revenue every day until we get off out azzes and solve how to eff the citizens of NJ." NJ: you get what you deserve by electing these yahoos.
GG Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Can't find a solution? No problem. We will just shut down the government so that we lose millions of dollars in revenue every day until we get off out azzes and solve how to eff the citizens of NJ." NJ: you get what you deserve by electing these yahoos. 719000[/snapback] Why do I feel so dirty right now?
ch19079 Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 i think its funny as hell. the officials obviously thaught that one side would cave before the deadline, or they thaught the govener would not shut down the government over a ballanced budget.
KD in CA Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 i think its funny as hell. the officials obviously thaught that one side would cave before the deadline, or they thaught the govener would not shut down the government over a ballanced budget. 719044[/snapback] And it puzzles you how Republicans can win support of the working class people? http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=716692
IBTG81 Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Gotta love when the Democratic governor and the Democrat-led legislature cannot agree on how to eff the citizens properly. "Gee, how should we raise taxes to pay for our 10% increase in spending? Can't find a solution? No problem. We will just shut down the government so that we lose millions of dollars in revenue every day until we get off out azzes and solve how to eff the citizens of NJ." NJ: you get what you deserve by electing these yahoos. 719000[/snapback] The sad part is, after the whole McGreevey debacle, Dick Codey took over. Codey is a lifelong Democrat, but I must say, he was doing a great job. So, what happens? Because he's not a good old boy and started clearing out some of the corrupt people, they give the nomination to Corzine instead. I never thought I'd say this, but I hope Trump runs for Governor, wins, and clears out all of the crap. It could be a reality show. "The Governor" airing on NBC.
GG Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 NJ: you get what you deserve by electing these yahoos. 719000[/snapback] A big part of it is that any candidate who even hints at reform won't make it onto a statewide ballot. It's nearly impossible for reformers to make headway in local elections. Welcome to Louisiana of the north. The only reason this state hasn't collapsed is that NYC economy provides a nice shelter to the Trenton gangs.
Bill from NYC Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 A big part of it is that any candidate who even hints at reform won't make it onto a statewide ballot. It's nearly impossible for reformers to make headway in local elections. Welcome to Louisiana of the north. The only reason this state hasn't collapsed is that NYC economy provides a nice shelter to the Trenton gangs. 719069[/snapback] Is it true that people who purchased lotto tickets (pick 3, etc.) are unable to cash them? One would think that this in itself would be illegal.
GG Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Is it true that people who purchased lotto tickets (pick 3, etc.) are unable to cash them? One would think that this in itself would be illegal. 719073[/snapback] They just stopped selling new tix, but if you have an existing ticket, they will pay it.
ch19079 Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 And it puzzles you how Republicans can win support of the working class people? http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=716692 719048[/snapback] i asked that same question on another message board. and the best responce i got was based on religion.
IDBillzFan Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 It's really a shame that a tiny little pissant state like NJ has to let their Democratic leaders once again embarrass themselves by thinking more of themselves and not of the people who elected them. On the other hand, the folks of NJ got what they elected, so I suspect they'll have to live with the ignorance.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 What's funny is that there aren't any Republicans to blame. Where's Coli to leap to the defense of the most CROOKED Democratic regime since the Daley Sr. Administration in Chicago?
erynthered Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 What's funny is that there aren't any Republicans to blame. Where's Coli to leap to the defense of the most CROOKED Democratic regime since the Daley Sr. Administration in Chicago? 719158[/snapback] He's still compiling 40 links to post, for his argument.
IDBillzFan Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 He's still compiling 40 links to post, for his argument. 719178[/snapback] I give the dude a ton of credit. If you're going to debate a topic with him, you better have your Google on because he can drive you up one side of the internet tube and down the other if you're not prepared.
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