Chilly Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Naa, she's pretty much got him nailed. 722804[/snapback] She nailed him?
Moose Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 # Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world. # Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. # In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews at risk in Ethiopia to safety in Israel. # When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times. # When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day - and saved three victims from the rubble. # Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world. # Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. # Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free." # Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books. # Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert. # Israel has more museums per capita than any other country. # Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well. # Israel has the highest per capita ratio of scientific publications in the world by a large margin, as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed. # In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech). # Israel is ranked #2 in the world for VC funds right behind the US. # Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita. # Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies # Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 is over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK. # With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley). # With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US. # Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined. # The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola-Israel. Motorola built its largest development center worldwide in Israel. # Windows NT software was developed by Microsoft-Israel. # The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. # Voice mail technology was developed in Israel. # AOL's instant message program was designed by an Israeli software company. # Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel # The city of Beer Sheva in Israel has the highest percentage in the world of Chess Grand Masters per capita – one for every 22,875 residents. # On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups # Israel has the largest raptor migration in the world, with hundreds of thousands of African birds of prey crossing as they fan out into Asia. # Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees -- ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland -- and 12 percent hold advanced degre And all of the predominately islamic countries in the Middle East combined have (besides oil and terrorism) accomplished... what exactly?
erynthered Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 # Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world. # Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. # In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews at risk in Ethiopia to safety in Israel. # When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times. # When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day - and saved three victims from the rubble. # Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world. # Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. # Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free." # Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books. # Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert. # Israel has more museums per capita than any other country. # Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well. # Israel has the highest per capita ratio of scientific publications in the world by a large margin, as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed. # In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech). # Israel is ranked #2 in the world for VC funds right behind the US. # Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita. # Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies # Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 is over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK. # With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley). # With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US. # Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined. # The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola-Israel. Motorola built its largest development center worldwide in Israel. # Windows NT software was developed by Microsoft-Israel. # The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. # Voice mail technology was developed in Israel. # AOL's instant message program was designed by an Israeli software company. # Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel # The city of Beer Sheva in Israel has the highest percentage in the world of Chess Grand Masters per capita – one for every 22,875 residents. # On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups # Israel has the largest raptor migration in the world, with hundreds of thousands of African birds of prey crossing as they fan out into Asia. # Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees -- ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland -- and 12 percent hold advanced degre And all of the predominately islamic countries in the Middle East combined have (besides oil and terrorism) accomplished... what exactly? 722812[/snapback] The " Jews" don't contribute to society, whats your problem. They are the problem, haven't you heard? Chicot will tell you. Its the state, its not the people.
Chilly Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 # Windows NT software was developed by Microsoft-Israel. # AOL's instant message program was designed by an Israeli software company. 722812[/snapback] For these reasons alone, Isreal should die.
Pete Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 I'm not in disagreement with the current actions in Gaza. If anything, Israel is acting with restraint. Name another country that wouldn't be carpet bombing a neighbor after weeks of rocket attacks. This is how perverted the logic has gotten - Israel leaves Gaza, Palestinians elect a government whose stated mission is the elimination of Israel, the Palestinian government agents (since they're Hamas) fire rockets into Israel, enter Israel and take a prisoner. Yet, Israel is expected by the world to show restraint. 722760[/snapback] I so agree with this post
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 # Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world. # Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. # In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews at risk in Ethiopia to safety in Israel. # When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times. # When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day - and saved three victims from the rubble. # Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world. # Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. # Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free." # Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books. # Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert. # Israel has more museums per capita than any other country. # Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well. # Israel has the highest per capita ratio of scientific publications in the world by a large margin, as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed. # In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech). # Israel is ranked #2 in the world for VC funds right behind the US. # Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita. # Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies # Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 is over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK. # With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley). # With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US. # Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined. # The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola-Israel. Motorola built its largest development center worldwide in Israel. # Windows NT software was developed by Microsoft-Israel. # The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. # Voice mail technology was developed in Israel. # AOL's instant message program was designed by an Israeli software company. # Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel # The city of Beer Sheva in Israel has the highest percentage in the world of Chess Grand Masters per capita – one for every 22,875 residents. # On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups # Israel has the largest raptor migration in the world, with hundreds of thousands of African birds of prey crossing as they fan out into Asia. # Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees -- ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland -- and 12 percent hold advanced degre And all of the predominately islamic countries in the Middle East combined have (besides oil and terrorism) accomplished... what exactly? 722812[/snapback] # Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. A liberal democracy that was founded on ethnic cleansing and refuses to allow it's original inhabitants to return home because they would effect it's racial purity. # With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US. How on earth is this some sort of achievement? # Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. See my first point. Israel's immigration policy is inherently racist.
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Gee, that's admirable! How about beheading, disembowelments and other islamic favorites that mesh more with the koran than the Geneva Convention? 722800[/snapback] Obviously I am all in favour of these practices
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Quote by ChicotCould this mean the same thing, in that contex? I'd also like to point out that I have never, not once, directed any criticism at "Americans" but only at the United States of America. Please help out a dumb Mic from New York out on this one. Whats the difference? Not to split hairs, but, damn. 722774[/snapback] Though all Jews have the right to be Israeli citizens and to settle there, not all choose to do so. In fact, there are more Jews living outside Israel than within it. Given this fact, I hardly see how a criticism of current Israeli policy represents a criticism of the entire Jewish race (which is what using the phrase "the Jews" surely implies). When I criticize the actions of the Israeli goverment am I criticizing Jews For Justice For Palestinians (a British organisation which stands for exactly what it says on the label)? Of course not. Is the Jewish doctor in my neighbourhood to blame for the actions of a country in which he does not live and has no influence on?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Is the Jewish doctor in my neighbourhood to blame for the actions of a country in which he does not live and has no influence on? 722896[/snapback] How noble of you. Problem is most Arab muslims disagree with you.
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 How noble of you. Problem is most Arab muslims disagree with you. 722910[/snapback] I very much doubt that.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 I very much doubt that. 722911[/snapback] Really? Come on, now, Chicot. Ever seen al-Jazeera? Ever read some of the sh-- that comes out of the middle eastern press?
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 The " Jews" don't contribute to society, whats your problem. They are the problem, haven't you heard? Chicot will tell you. Its the state, its not the people. 722815[/snapback] Perhaps you could have waited for my reply (ever heard of different time zones?) before you got out the pom-poms and started cheerleading
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Really? Come on, now, Chicot. Ever seen al-Jazeera? Ever read some of the sh-- that comes out of the middle eastern press? 722913[/snapback] Even so, I still don't believe that a majority of Arabs are anti-Jew so much as anti-Israel.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Even so, I still don't believe that a majority of Arabs are anti-Jew so much as anti-Israel. 722915[/snapback] Here we go again. They couch (barely) their anti-semitism in anti-zionism. The history of Arab societies' involvements with the former Nazi regime is well-documented.
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Here we go again. They couch (barely) their anti-semitism in anti-zionism. The history of Arab societies' involvements with the former Nazi regime is well-documented. 722917[/snapback] Prior to the advent of zionism, I think it's fair to say that Jewish-Arab relations were far more harmonious than those between Jews and Christians, the latter feeling the need to massacre large numbers of the former from time to time.
Moose Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 # Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. A liberal democracy that was founded on ethnic cleansing and refuses to allow it's original inhabitants to return home because they would effect it's racial purity. # Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity. See my first point. Israel's immigration policy is inherently racist. 722891[/snapback] And out comes the "racism" slur so quickly bandied about these days. Maybe what you've been told is inaccurate. As an aside, how much do you want to bet that there are more Arabs living in Israel than there are Jews in Saudi Arabia... or that there are more mosques in little tiny Israel than there are synagogues in Saudi Arabia? # With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US. How on earth is this some sort of achievement? 722891[/snapback] Maybe that's a good question to ask Hezbollah these days... Having their arsenal allows Israel to continue its other achievements in the face of surrounding hostile nations that seek to "wipe them off the map." Anyway, here's your chance to list all the "achievements" of the arab/islamic states in the region, chicot.
Moose Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Prior to the advent of zionism, I think it's fair to say that Jewish-Arab relations were far more harmonious than those between Jews and Christians, the latter feeling the need to massacre large numbers of the former from time to time. 722930[/snapback] Perhaps you are referring to the "Christian-initiated" Holocaust in WWII, in which the "Christian" Nazis regularly quoted the New Testament to justify their acts and were heard to shout, "Jesu Akbar!"??? If so, then, of course muslims had no part whatsoever in that; they probably helped Jews escape from the evil Christians: Iran's axis with the Third Reich began during the prewar years, when it welcomed Nazi Gestapo agents and other operatives to Tehran, allowing them to use the city as a base for Middle East agitation against the British and the region's Jews. Key among these German agents was Fritz Grobba, Berlin's envoy to the Middle East, who was often called "the German Lawrence," because he promised a Pan-Islamic state stretching from Casablanca to Tehran. Relations between Berlin and Tehran were strong from the moment Hitler came to power in 1933. At that time, Reza Shah Pahlavi's nation was known as Persia. The shah became a stalwart admirer of Hitler, Nazism and the concept of the Aryan master race. He also sought the Reich's help in reducing British petro-political domination. So intense was the shah's identification with the Third Reich that in 1935 he renamed his ancient country "Iran," which in Farsi means Aryan and refers to the Proto-Indo-European lineage that Nazi racial theorists and Persian ethnologists cherished. The idea for the name change was suggested by the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of Hitler's trusted banker, Hjalmar Schacht. From that point, all Iranians were constantly reminded that their country shared a common bond with the Nazi regime. Shortly after World War II broke out in 1939, the Mufti of Jerusalem crafted a strategic alliance with Hitler to exchange Iraqi oil for active Arab and Islamic participation in the murder of Jews in the Mideast and Eastern Europe. This was predicated on support for a pan-Arab state and Arab control over Palestine. During the war years, Iran became a haven for Gestapo agents. It was from Iran that the seeds of the abortive 1941 pro-Nazi coup in Baghdad were planted. After Churchill's forces booted the Nazis out of Iraq in June 1941, German aircrews supporting Nazi bombers escaped across Iraq's northern border back into Iran. Likewise, the mufti of Jerusalem was spirited across the border to Tehran, where he continued to call for the destruction of the Jews and the defeat of the British. His venomous rhetoric filled the newspapers and radio broadcasts in Tehran. The mufti was a vocal opponent of allowing Jewish refugees to be transported or ransomed into Jewish Palestine. Instead, he wanted them shipped to the gas chambers of Poland. In the summer of 1941, the mufti, with the support of key Iranian military and government leaders, advocated implementing in Iran what had failed months earlier in Iraq. The plan once again was for a total diversion of oil from the Allies to the Nazis, in exchange for the accelerated destruction of the Jews in Eastern Europe and the Nazis' support for an Arab state. Through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co., Iran had already been supplying Hitler's forces in occupied Czechoslovakia and Austria. Now, the mufti agitated to cut off the British and the Allies completely and supply Germany in its push against Russia. In October 1941, British, USSR other allied forces invaded Iran to break up the Iran-Nazi alliance. Pro-Nazi generals and ministers were arrested, and the shah's son was installed in power. The mufti scampered into the Italian embassy, where he shaved his beard and dyed his hair. In this disguise, he was allowed to leave the country along with the rest of the Italian delegation. Once the mufti relocated permanently to Berlin, where he established his own Reich-supported "bureau," he was given airtime on Radio Berlin. From Berlin and other fascist capitals in Europe, the mufti continued to agitate for international Jewish destruction, as well as a pan-Islamic alliance with the Nazi regime. He called upon all Muslims to "kill the Jews wherever you see them." In Tehran's marketplace, it was common to see placards that declared, "In heaven, Allah is your master. On Earth, it is Adolf Hitler." When the mufti raised three divisions of Islamic Waffen SS to undertake cruel operations in Bosnia, among the 30,000 killers were some volunteer contingents from Iran. Iranian Nazis, along with the other Muslim Waffen SS, operated under the direct supervision of Heinrich Himmler and were responsible for barbarous actions against Jews and others in Bosnia. Recruitment for the murderous "Handschar Divisions" was done openly in Iran. Iran and its leaders were not only aware of the Holocaust, they played both sides. The country offered overland escape routes for refugee Jews fleeing Nazi persecution to Israel -- and later fleeing postwar Iraqi fascist persecution -- but only in exchange for extortionate passage fees. Thousands of Jews journeyed to Israel via Iran both during the Holocaust and during the years after the fall of Hitler, when Arab leaders, especially in Iraq, tried to continue Germany's anti-Jewish program. Iran profited handsomely.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Perhaps you are referring to the "Christian-initiated" Holocaust in WWII, in which the "Christian" Nazis regularly quoted the New Testament to justify their acts and were heard to shout, "Jesu Akbar!"??? If so, then, of course muslims had no part whatsoever in that; they probably helped Jews escape from the evil Christians: 722955[/snapback] Actually, I think he's referring to the entirety of European history. "Hey, there's a famine...let's go kill the Jews!"
chicot Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Perhaps you are referring to the "Christian-initiated" Holocaust in WWII, in which the "Christian" Nazis regularly quoted the New Testament to justify their acts and were heard to shout, "Jesu Akbar!"??? If so, then, of course muslims had no part whatsoever in that; they probably helped Jews escape from the evil Christians: 722955[/snapback] Nope, I referred to "prior to the advent of zionism". Zionism, as a movement, got going in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and predates the second world war. The holocaust was not actually the first time Jews were persecuted in Europe.
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