KRC Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Whatever gets you through the night...... 713617[/snapback] See what I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 See what I mean... 713738[/snapback] Too bad my "You don't have to respond to everything, dumbass" post was deleted. Of course, Simon would just ask me if he's supposed to respond to you or not. Some people never !@#$ing learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I should have been a California lawyer, then maybe I'd be as smart as you and crayonz Need some chapstick politiKen? 713564[/snapback] Raising the level of discourse one post at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 You can't even deal with ieatcrayonz, so how the hell would you know how we should approach a global conflict? 713530[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I guess I'm part of the BushBad! crowd and I admit I didn't read all of it.I got about 1/2 sentence in before I realized he was going to compare our current situation with WWII. Yeah, that's definitely the way we ought to approach this one. 713494[/snapback] You can also compare the current insurgency to Vietnam, but the BushGood crowd will freak out if you do. Oh where are the rational people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 You can also compare the current insurgency to Vietnam, but the BushGood crowd will freak out if you do. Oh where are the rational people? 714254[/snapback] Not comparing the current insurgency to Vietnam, that's for sure. The only thing Iraq and Vietnam have in common are the word "insurgency". Other than that, they're drastically different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantsOfAlbany Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 They're not insurgents. They're Muslim murderers. I don't think the Viet Cong or NVA ever walked into temples and blew themselves up as well as other Viet Cong or NVA, like the dirt bag Muslims in Iraq do. It's not world terrorism. It's Islamic Jihad - the Holy War. As for the original post, yes, this guy does get it. Why doesn't Bush explain it this way? Policital correctness, I'm afraid. Nothing changes in Iraq until the religion of Islam changes. The cartoon character Winnie-the-Pooh has a sidekick who is a pig and aptly named 'Piglet'. Well, state television in Turkey last week banned Winnie-The-Pooh from broadcast television because Muslims don't want a pig on television. Even a harmless cartoon character. Muslims ban pig (pork) from their diet. The world is going down the tub compliments of the religion of Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Not comparing the current insurgency to Vietnam, that's for sure. The only thing Iraq and Vietnam have in common are the word "insurgency". Other than that, they're drastically different. 714255[/snapback] The Iraq War is as close to the Vietnam War as it is to WWII. As in, "not even". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 See what I mean... Yeah, you're quite the puppetmaster. Where do you get all these dynamite zingers..... Too bad my "You don't have to respond to everything, dumbass" post was deleted. I suppose if I looked like that big of an assh0le in a thread, I'd have deleted it too. <Insert more hilarious PPPcrew jokes here> Raising the level of discourse one post at a time. Uh-huh, that's me. I'm always the one that drags the political threads down. Oh how I wish I could be part of the super cool crowd too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I suppose if I looked like that big of an assh0le in a thread, I'd have deleted it too. 714602[/snapback] You suppose? You DID look like that big of an ass hole in that thread. Now how long until you delete this thread as well? It's amazing how an otherwise halfway-decent thread goes all to hell as soon as you show up, simply because you're totally incapable of refraining from saying "I know you are but what am I?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 To say nothing of the fact that many of those doing the fighting in Iraq (Baathists and Iraqi nationalists for example) have little to do with the Jihadi movement and are fighting to get the US to get the hell out of their country. 713537[/snapback] Which everyone knows the best way to accomplish that is to bomb the hell out of women & children in restaurants, schools and markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Which everyone knows the best way to accomplish that is to bomb the hell out of women & children in restaurants, schools and markets. 714629[/snapback] Know for a fact that every single insurgent group operating in Iraq is responsible for "bombing the hell out of woman and children in restaurants, schools and markets"? No? Thought not. The idea that everyone doing the fighting in Iraq is quite happy to commit atrocities may be good for propaganda purposes, but that doesn't make it the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Forget the Nazis and Commie-Pinko-Fags and towelheads, what about the Yellow Menace?! You can find them dealing blackjack in Vegas (or terrorizing our roads)....always avoid asian dealers, that's what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Know for a fact that every single insurgent group operating in Iraq is responsible for "bombing the hell out of woman and children in restaurants, schools and markets"? No? Thought not. The idea that everyone doing the fighting in Iraq is quite happy to commit atrocities may be good for propaganda purposes, but that doesn't make it the truth. 714641[/snapback] An unreasonable chunk of them are. Part of the issue is that a good number of Sunni are simply upset at the Shi'ia "minority" being put in power, and see little wrong with killing Shi'ia to begin with. (FYI, I define "an unreasonable chunk" in this context as one group. Maybe three or four non-Islamic Sunni groups think that way, plus a couple of Islamic groups. Out of maybe forty insurgent groups. So it's hardly a Sunni majority thinking like that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Know for a fact that every single insurgent group operating in Iraq is responsible for "bombing the hell out of woman and children in restaurants, schools and markets"? No? Thought not. Nope, but it's a hell of a lot closer approximation that more insurgents are trying to assert their tribal boundaries by blowing up women & children than insurgents trying to drive the US out. The idea that everyone doing the fighting in Iraq is quite happy to commit atrocities may be good for propaganda purposes, but that doesn't make it the truth. 714641[/snapback] Never said that people are happy to commit atrocities, just pointing out that the US occupation is a red herring for the tribal war that Saddam did a good job in suppressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nope, but it's a hell of a lot closer approximation that more insurgents are trying to assert their tribal boundaries by blowing up women & children than insurgents trying to drive the US out. 714670[/snapback] Actually, there's probably little discernable difference between tribal issues and insurgent issues at this point. The insurgency is heavily dependent on tribalism throughout much of the Sunni region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicot Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nope, but it's a hell of a lot closer approximation that more insurgents are trying to assert their tribal boundaries by blowing up women & children than insurgents trying to drive the US out.Never said that people are happy to commit atrocities, just pointing out that the US occupation is a red herring for the tribal war that Saddam did a good job in suppressing. 714670[/snapback] Reread my original reply in this thread. I never said any such thing. The original post is making the usual mistake of assuming that the entire insurgency in Iraq is to do with militant muslims wanting to take over the world. I was pointing out that a substantial part of the insurgency (and I used the word "many" not "most") was made up of secular Baathists and Iraqi nationalists who have very different motivations from those of Al-Qaeda. And yes, a major motivation is the removal of foreign forces from Iraq which is why talks with insurgent groups (which are happening all the time) usually break down on the issue of a definite timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops, whether they are negotiating with the Iraqi goverment or the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Wow. I almost made it through the entire article. Unfortunately it was so slanted my monitor fell off my desk. Anybody got the cliffnotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Wow. I almost made it through the entire article. Unfortunately it was so slanted my monitor fell off my desk. Anybody got the cliffnotes? 714757[/snapback] Yeah: "It's good we're in Iraq, because Nazi Germany was bad." I thought it was less slanted than it was simply idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Yeah: "It's good we're in Iraq, because Nazi Germany was bad." I thought it was less slanted than it was simply idiotic. 714783[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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