Fake-Fat Sunny Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Great post. 53154[/snapback] Tax rates are a big concern but really a secondary concern for me behind the failure of elected officials to control spending. There is a chicken and egg aspect to this as tax revenues are raised to spend money and poor spending leads to higher taxes. However, there is a natural tendency on the part of the public to rebel against higher taxes without one having to generate interest while spending controls are generally ignored as an issue. I ronically, we seem to fall for the game that there is some critical important difference between the GOP and the Dems. The Dems are the party of tax and spend, but the GOP has abandoned any semblance of fiscal discipline and merely borrow and spend. Federak spending and the debt have hit unheard of levels under Bush as he attempts like the Dems to buy his way to re-election. Quite franjly I am happy to give taxes on my income to the government for spending for the public good. it makes no sense for me to buy my own fighter planes to protect me, for me not to pay for firefighters, and I also think it is a good thing for me to pay teachers to teach youngsters and to pay to take care of those who are disabled. I think my taxes are higher than they need to be for those good purposes because we routinely spend public dollars on private things like subsidies for businesses as we compete state against state and city against city to attrack them with tax abatements that have led to the vast majority of corporations essentially paying no taxes. Though individual tax rates have fallen in a huge way federally since the 70% tax rates under Nixon, these costs have mostly been shifte to the local level as state and local taxes have gone up to meet this gap. The complaint against these rising local taxes is just simplistic and ignores the realuty of its causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cal t Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 We pay 9.75% sales tax in Tennessee, BUT there is no income tax. I wish the morons here who promote an income tax in the hope for a lower sales tax would look to Buffalo as the model of what will happen. You give politicians a revenue stream and they will push it to the max to buy votes. There is one reality that the young people on this board must come to grips with. As wealth is redistributed globally, there will be less domestic corporate wealth to redistribute domestically. Individual taxes will continue to rise in this country. There is no way to stop this without tough decisions regarding government entitlements. Today's 25-40 year olds can expect to give up 80% of their salary to an aging population. It doesn't matter who wins elections, these are facts driven by economic globalization, domestic demographics, society's need to defend itself and society's desire to take care of our children and the elderly. The best one can do is fight politicians on all fronts to force them to make tough decisions. Stop worrying about silly stevestojan (who went to 'Nam, who likes gays, etc.) when you vote, just but pressure on the person you vote for to make sure they spend your money wisely and to make tough, fair and humane decisions on entitlements. The poster sho said just give them "50%" doesn't realize how sincere his sarcasm is. 53050[/snapback] Although...paradoxically...the quality of life in buffalo area is good in my opinion because of the lack of unsightly sprawl of tract homes and massive traffic that comes from booming economies.I would much rather live in buffalo than in LA or Atlanta.(well---if i could get lost for J F and March..lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLS4LIFE Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Sure...raise the tax. UNBELIEVABLE! Hey Giambra... :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 I like Alaska's no state sales tax, no state income tax, and PFD (almost $1000 per resident this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Tax rates are a big concern but really a secondary concern for me behind the failure of elected officials to control spending. There is a chicken and egg aspect to this as tax revenues are raised to spend money and poor spending leads to higher taxes. However, there is a natural tendency on the part of the public to rebel against higher taxes without one having to generate interest while spending controls are generally ignored as an issue. I ronically, we seem to fall for the game that there is some critical important difference between the GOP and the Dems. The Dems are the party of tax and spend, but the GOP has abandoned any semblance of fiscal discipline and merely borrow and spend. Federak spending and the debt have hit unheard of levels under Bush as he attempts like the Dems to buy his way to re-election. Quite franjly I am happy to give taxes on my income to the government for spending for the public good. it makes no sense for me to buy my own fighter planes to protect me, for me not to pay for firefighters, and I also think it is a good thing for me to pay teachers to teach youngsters and to pay to take care of those who are disabled. I think my taxes are higher than they need to be for those good purposes because we routinely spend public dollars on private things like subsidies for businesses as we compete state against state and city against city to attrack them with tax abatements that have led to the vast majority of corporations essentially paying no taxes. Though individual tax rates have fallen in a huge way federally since the 70% tax rates under Nixon, these costs have mostly been shifte to the local level as state and local taxes have gone up to meet this gap. The complaint against these rising local taxes is just simplistic and ignores the realuty of its causes. 53596[/snapback] Your answer is the biggest piece of dog poop that I have ever seen. It's @ssholes like you that make WNY the sh!thole that it currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 I like our 6% sales tax, add to that no state income tax! Now if the state would just draft some laws banning hurricanes all would be well here in paradise! 53556[/snapback] Me too, but not every state can count on the wonderful revenues generated by tourism. We have it so good here in FL that we can even have a "no tax" week. I bought $400 worth of stuff that week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Wasn't it a "temporary" measure when they raised it from 7% to 8%? Just like the tolls on the thruway were "temporary" until the bond was paid off? Give a politican revenue, and you'll never get it back. And increasing taxes isn't the solution to fiscal irresponsibility. 53201[/snapback] Sounds like the 'temporary' income tax they implemented in CT back in days of Lowell Weicker because our state was in a deficit. p.s. Somehow, despite collecting 4.5% of every resident's salary, we are in a deficit AGAIN! Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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