Arkady Renko Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 The fact that they have totally deemphasized highlights in favor of a bunch of talking-heads debating about Bonds and/or TO every night.
kegtapr Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I hate people who always complain about ESPN, but keep watching it.
Arkady Renko Posted May 25, 2006 Author Posted May 25, 2006 I hate people who always complain about ESPN, but keep watching it. 697959[/snapback] I do not hate all of it. I hate a lot of it. But really, what other choice is there for national highlights? What other choice is there for certain games?
meazza Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I do not hate all of it. I hate a lot of it. But really, what other choice is there for national highlights? What other choice is there for certain games? 697960[/snapback] Get TSN.
Kevbeau Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I do not hate all of it. I hate a lot of it. But really, what other choice is there for national highlights? What other choice is there for certain games? 697960[/snapback] Hi, my name is Kevbeau and I used to be an ESPN junky. I'd watch Sportcenter over and over again, even though they would just put in a loop. I loved the commercials, especially when they used team's mascots. I've been on the wagon for about 2 years now. Sure the NHL lockout and ESPN failing to pick up the contract on the return contributed, but I can't fault it as the main reason. Perhaps it's the fact that their sportscasters have become caricatures of themselves, or that poker and billiards dominate the airwaves. While perfectly fine recreational activities, they are not sports. No, I can't point the finger at any of these issues as the primary cause. My problem can be summed up in one word: Theisman. Thanks, and see you at the next meeting.
Arkady Renko Posted May 25, 2006 Author Posted May 25, 2006 Get TSN. 697972[/snapback] They don't offer that here.
Arkady Renko Posted May 25, 2006 Author Posted May 25, 2006 Note that this thread is really about love. I used to love ESPN and hope it can regain its past glory. What has happened to it is that it has become like the Cable News Networks, lots of cheap shows, debate and opinion that doesn't tell you anything. Keep in mind that I do like PTI. Debate can good if it is not repetitive, not nasty and has a wide-breadth that is what makes it different.
OnTheRocks Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Hi, my name is Kevbeau 697980[/snapback] Hi Kevbeau. Feel free to help yourself to some coffee in the back of the room. And remember...it is one day at a time.
Buftex Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Non-NFl season, I pretty much watch only ESPN News. Even then, not all that much. I used to listen to sports talk radio constantly, but no more. I only want the highlights, I don't really care what most of these guys think anymore about most things. They rarely have any "fresh" takes on any issue, because, fact it, the issues really don't need all of the attention they get. There is only so much you can say. For just highlights, even ESPN News is pretty sub-par. After the first Carolina/Buffalo playoff game, they had two different hightlight packages they showed throughout the day. On neither of them, did they show the prettiest plays, just the first two goals scored, and the last two...there used to be a time when they showed you every goal. Same with football. NFL Primetime used to give you a great capsule of every game played, all of the scores, and the unusual, funny miscues, etc etc...you really felt like you knew what happened in every game, even if you couldn't see them all. Now, if they even show highlights from every game, it is the same abbreviated clip package they show on Sportcenter. Overall, I think ESPN has gotten too into cross promotion, and too "into itself" to be of much use to me anymore. I used to chuckle at the Sportcenter commercials, but I think they are what did ESPN in, for the hardcore sports fan. Sports have become secondary to the networks' personalities. I guess that is why I am one of the few (very few it seems) who has been delighted by OLN's coverage of the NHL playoffs. Everybody complains about camera work, and analysts that don't give their favorite team its' due, but I just love that they really cover the games well...their highlight show ("On the Fly") is to the NHL, what Primetime used to be to the NFL. Even when ESPN carried the NHL, they never covered it as well, IMO, as the much lower budgeted OLN.
Buftex Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Keep in mind that I do like PTI. Debate can good if it is not repetitive, not nasty and has a wide-breadth that is what makes it different. 697994[/snapback] You can listen to PTI online!
Arkady Renko Posted May 25, 2006 Author Posted May 25, 2006 You can listen to PTI online! 698007[/snapback] I like moving pictures along with the sound.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Actually, ESPN is fabulous and a sports fan's dream. They have highlights of everything. NFL Countdown was one of the best shows ever. They have the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB live for games you could not see elsewhere. They have highlights all night long. It's easily and inarguably one of the greatest things ever to happen to sports and sports fans. And I hate the announcers as much or more than anyone.
OnTheRocks Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Actually, ESPN is fabulous and a sport's fans dream. They have highlights of everything. NFL Countdown was one of the best shows ever. They have the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB live for games you could not see elsewhere. They have highlights all night long. It's easily and inarguably one of the greatest things ever to happen to sports and sports fans. And I hate the announcers as much or more than anyone. 698013[/snapback] this is really a perfect assesment. You just have to make sure you read the last sentence and don't get too mad that it isn't the first sentence in the post.
CajunBillsBacker Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I'm sick of hearing about steroids on a sports channel. If I gave a crap about steroids, i'd buy a body building magazine.
Buftex Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I like moving pictures along with the sound. 698010[/snapback] True, but when you listen on-line, you don't get suckered into any other ESPN bs!
meazza Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 They don't offer that here. 697992[/snapback] Get a free to air satellite, and point it in the direction of Bell ExpressVU Although i can't say that TSN is unbiased, they will give coverage to every sporting event. I once tried to catch hockey highlights on ESPN and it took too long as I had to sit throgh all the NBA and MLB crap.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Actually, ESPN is fabulous and a sports fan's dream. They have highlights of everything. NFL Countdown was one of the best shows ever. They have the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB live for games you could not see elsewhere. They have highlights all night long. It's easily and inarguably one of the greatest things ever to happen to sports and sports fans. And I hate the announcers as much or more than anyone. 698013[/snapback] Used to be, at least. Now, I have a hard time finding highlights between poker games...
Buftex Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Actually, ESPN is fabulous and a sports fan's dream. They have highlights of everything. NFL Countdown was one of the best shows ever. They have the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB live for games you could not see elsewhere. They have highlights all night long. It's easily and inarguably one of the greatest things ever to happen to sports and sports fans. And I hate the announcers as much or more than anyone. 698013[/snapback] Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but you do know that ESPN does not have NHL games? I guess what you are saying is that ESPN, conceptually, is fabulous...on that would agree. It is just that, it seems, they have lost track of their concept, or have shifted their focus more on the E than the S, in ESPN! That is where they score low. Sports is sports, you are wathcing ESPN because you are a sports fan. What is entertainment is more subjective.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Used to be, at least. Now, I have a hard time finding highlights between poker games... 698030[/snapback] Sports Center is on 10.5 hours today.
VABills Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 Sports Center is on 10.5 hours today. 698036[/snapback] I have 4 espn channels on dtv. The main one, the duece, classics and a 24 hour per day sports center.
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