John Adams Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 fixed link 1,500 jobs. A 400 million dollar facility. Outsourced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Link 1,500 jobs. A 400 million dollar facility. Outsourced. 692765[/snapback] Page not found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Page not found, try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Page not found, try again. 692779[/snapback] Too slow, jarhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Too slow, jarhead. 692781[/snapback] We in a better mood today? Where's the damn vabills smilie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 Fixed link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 We in a better mood today? Where's the damn vabills smilie? 692791[/snapback] Hell yeah, food---or the lack thereof---can really affect your mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I wonder if WNY was even on the short list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I wonder if WNY was even on the short list... 692834[/snapback] heh. That's funny. Seriously, I find it amazing that their production is N. America lags behind the market demand. Aren't the Japanese masters of "Just In Time" production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Seriously, I find it amazing that their production is N. America lags behind the market demand. Aren't the Japanese masters of "Just In Time" production? 692853[/snapback] Depends on their strategy - at what point is it better to make a step change in production in the consuming nation versus importing. Also JIT refers to the assembly process - reduce the time between needing parts for assembly and their delivery to the plant site. That reduces inventory & storage while streamlining the overall car assembly process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 The illegals are going to be stoked about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 Honda has been wildly successful with an inexpensive tag. I own 2, and have owned 3 in the last 15 years. In 15 years, I've never had a single breakdown. No recalls. No mechanical problems of any kind. My 13 year old Accord has a little rust, but other than that, it runs fine. My previous Accord had 190K miles on it when I sold it for 2K(!). I've heard similar testimonials from Toyota owners. I've heard that Lexuses last for about 500K miles and never break down. I've never heard someone say anything like that about a single American car. Ever. I don't know why the Japanese cars are so superior than the American cars but they are. And as a consumer, that's what I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Honda has been wildly successful with an inexpensive tag. I own 2, and have owned 3 in the last 15 years. In 15 years, I've never had a single breakdown. No recalls. No mechanical problems of any kind. My 13 year old Accord has a little rust, but other than that, it runs fine. My previous Accord had 190K miles on it when I sold it for 2K(!). I've heard similar testimonials from Toyota owners. I've heard that Lexuses last for about 500K miles and never break down. I've never heard someone say anything like that about a single American car. Ever. I don't know why the Japanese cars are so superior than the American cars but they are. And as a consumer, that's what I care about. 693037[/snapback] I have the best experience with Toyotas (Corollas specifically). But have had numerous problems with my 2000 Odyssey. Not sure what happened, but they screwed up on this one. Ofcourse, my definition is totally relative but I have had 3 automatic door problems in the first 2 years, transmission crapping out (covered by Honda voluntarily extending the warranty), EGR valve crapping out (again covered by 'extended' warranty) and several brake jobs. My Corollas have been totally trouble free for their first 7-8 years of ownership. Sorry to hijack the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 I have the best experience with Toyotas (Corollas specifically). But have had numerous problems with my 2000 Odyssey. Not sure what happened, but they screwed up on this one. Ofcourse, my definition is totally relative but I have had 3 automatic door problems in the first 2 years, transmission crapping out (covered by Honda voluntarily extending the warranty), EGR valve crapping out (again covered by 'extended' warranty) and several brake jobs. My Corollas have been totally trouble free for their first 7-8 years of ownership. Sorry to hijack the thread. 693104[/snapback] That's cool. I wonder if anyone will stick up for American cars. To echo you, however, I'd recommend Toyotas over Hondas. They're probably a touch more expensive, but they have better reputations. My next car will likely be in the Toyota family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 That's cool. I wonder if anyone will stick up for American cars. To echo you, however, I'd recommend Toyotas over Hondas. They're probably a touch more expensive, but they have better reputations. My next car will likely be in the Toyota family. 693133[/snapback] Nothing beats Chrysler. The way the headgasket spews out oil is just music to my ears. ... No seriously, I've owned 2 American cars and I'm never going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I have the best experience with Toyotas (Corollas specifically). But have had numerous problems with my 2000 Odyssey. Not sure what happened, but they screwed up on this one. Ofcourse, my definition is totally relative but I have had 3 automatic door problems in the first 2 years, transmission crapping out (covered by Honda voluntarily extending the warranty), EGR valve crapping out (again covered by 'extended' warranty) and several brake jobs. My Corollas have been totally trouble free for their first 7-8 years of ownership. Sorry to hijack the thread. 693104[/snapback] I don't think Toyota or Honda have made very good minivans though their minivans still manage to beat out the Big 3 versions in quality and reliability lately, I've found Hondas to be more expensive than Toyotas...perhaps because they're slightly more "flashy"? i do know the interior of hondas now look pretty damn good while toyotas still seem kind of bland the civic/camry costs more than the corolla/accord even the honda fit is like a grand more than the toyota yaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 What about Kenny's Pinto? I have a 2005 Accord and love it. Honda has been wildly successful with an inexpensive tag. I own 2, and have owned 3 in the last 15 years. In 15 years, I've never had a single breakdown. No recalls. No mechanical problems of any kind. My 13 year old Accord has a little rust, but other than that, it runs fine. My previous Accord had 190K miles on it when I sold it for 2K(!). I've heard similar testimonials from Toyota owners. I've heard that Lexuses last for about 500K miles and never break down. I've never heard someone say anything like that about a single American car. Ever. I don't know why the Japanese cars are so superior than the American cars but they are. And as a consumer, that's what I care about. 693037[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 He said he did replace the engine and the one in there now has only about 30K on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 What's more American - a Ford Mustang or a Toyota Sienna? If you look under the hood and beyond the name, you might be in for a surprise. New statistics from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and reported in Thursday's Wall Street Journal show that the Sienna, assembled in Indiana, contains 90 percent North American parts. On the flipside the Mustang - an American icon - is assembled with 45 percent of its components coming from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 I don't think Toyota or Honda have made very good minivansthough their minivans still manage to beat out the Big 3 versions in quality and reliability 694549[/snapback] I can only go from second hand experience on this. I have two friends with Siennas. They both love them. As a passenger, I liked them both. My parents have a Dodge minivan and it's a piece of garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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