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If you want to have an intelligent debate on the candidates, come on over to PPP and I'll indulge you.  Because it's not going to happen in this thread with this audience...

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Yeah, 'cuz over here on the Wall we're nuthin' but a bunch of techalazical backwoods morons!

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Actually...yeah, people are saying that.  I'm sure - dead positive, actually - that there's voters out there who'll vote for Bush because he's "keeping the queers in check" or the like.  None I respect (well...a few.  I can understand why a gay couple would vote for Kerry based on that issue alone, having a vested interest in it), mind you...but they're out there.

 

But my POINT was (as I think you know) that someone who claims the debates are a waste of time because he's informed enough is a fool...especially when he's not fully informed on his candidate.  Is DOMA a major issue?  For some...mostly either gays (who I have nothing against) or homophobes (who need to stop worring about what other men do with their penises).  I chose it merely because Kerry's position on it is quite possibly the most convoluted and self-contradictory of all his positions (save maybe taxes)...and I felt that someone who had such full knowledge of his candidate that he could leave everything forthcoming to the "backwoods morons" should be able to answer it.

 

But hey, if he has to resort to mental illness jokes...I guess that's a sound basis for casting a vote, too...  :huh:

If you want to have an intelligent debate on the candidates, come on over to PPP and I'll indulge you.  Because it's not going to happen in this thread with this audience...

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Now THERE"S a thought. We can discuss Homeland Security and National Defense, which BTW is tonight's agenda. Nothing that matters much to the next four years.

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Tom, the simple fact is, you brought up the n-word - most likely the most vile word in the english language -  out of NO WHERE. 

 

If I want to have an intelligent debate, it will NOT be with someone who does that.

 

Sure, calling people "backwoods morons" is not PC (hey, its not even nice), but associating it with that word and then expect people to take you seriously? Please.

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What are you talking about? I never typed that.

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Not enough tequila in the world...

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You could always just ignore Kerry. Whatever position he takes he's just going to change anyway. You really know and understand the issues? Why not pop over to PPP? It could get done here, but the PPP is for that purpose. Anything that turns political gets shuffled there anyway. I haven't had anyone new to explain global terrorism to in quite a while.

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What are you talking about?  I never typed that.

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ahh, tom... too bad you forgot about the old quote button.... i wont paste it here, but others can go back two pages and find where I quoted ya...

 

shame really.

 

Can't wait for tonight. Should learn alot about these two.

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You could always just ignore Kerry. Whatever position he takes he's just going to change anyway. You really know and understand the issues? Why not pop over to PPP? It could get done here, but the PPP is for that purpose. Anything that turns political gets shuffled there anyway. I haven't had anyone new to explain global terrorism to in quite a while.

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naaaahh...

 

I get verbally abused here in open forum enough by the three stooges. I don't need to go into the realm of a bunch of guys who think they know politics. My sister is a Politcal Science Professor. If i really ever have a pressing question about anything, I just ask her.

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naaaahh...

 

I get verbally abused here in open forum enough by the three stooges. I don't need to go into the realm of a bunch of guys who think they know politics. My sister is a Politcal Science Professor. If i really ever have a pressing question about anything, I just ask her.

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Well, that explains the lefty leanings. Seriously, you might actually be really surprised at what some folks over there actually know.

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Actually...yeah, people are saying that.  I'm sure - dead positive, actually - that there's voters out there who'll vote for Bush because he's "keeping the queers in check" or the like.  None I respect (well...a few.  I can understand why a gay couple would vote for Kerry based on that issue alone, having a vested interest in it), mind you...but they're out there.

 

But my POINT was (as I think you know) that someone who claims the debates are a waste of time because he's informed enough is a fool...especially when he's not fully informed on his candidate.  Is DOMA a major issue?  For some...mostly either gays (who I have nothing against) or homophobes (who need to stop worring about what other men do with their penises).  I chose it merely because Kerry's position on it is quite possibly the most convoluted and self-contradictory of all his positions (save maybe taxes)...and I felt that someone who had such full knowledge of his candidate that he could leave everything forthcoming to the "backwoods morons" should be able to answer it.

 

But hey, if he has to resort to mental illness jokes...I guess that's a sound basis for casting a vote, too...  :huh:

If you want to have an intelligent debate on the candidates, come on over to PPP and I'll indulge you.  Because it's not going to happen in this thread with this audience...

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My point is, and I think you affirm it, is that nobody has a full grip on all their candidates position.

 

Most people will pick two or three issues that are close to them and decide on those.

 

BOTH candidates are convulted and self-contradictory on many positions. (Yes Republicans, Bush does flip-flop, like all politicians do). In the 2000 debates, Bush claimed to be against nation building. How has that played out?

 

I doubt, though, that Bush's flip-flop will prevent any Republicans from voting for him.

 

Bush and Cheney don't seem to agree on the gay marriage amendment. Will that cost them votes?

 

Anyway, like you, I believe that the debates could be important, but in reality, they'll probably be worthless.

 

And I avoid the PPP board, because I've found that intelligent debate is difficult with that audience.

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Now THERE"S a thought. We can discuss Homeland Security and National Defense, which BTW is tonight's agenda. Nothing that matters much to the next four years.

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Yeah and our jackass candidates are trying to treat it like a sanitized campaign rally. (I think I've gone full circle here!) :huh:

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And I avoid the PPP board, because I've found that intelligent debate is difficult with that audience.

 

What a bunch of rabble rousers. I have an opposite problem. Much of the time when I post something in certain subjects everyone shuts up and goes away.

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ahh, tom... too bad you forgot about the old quote button.... i wont paste it here, but others can go back two pages and find where I quoted ya...

 

shame really. 

 

Can't wait for tonight. Should learn alot about these two.

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What quote button? You mean all that vile crap you added to my post? I never typed it...ask the mods...

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Yeah and our jackass candidates are trying to treat it like a sanitized campaign rally.  (I think I've gone full circle here!)  :huh:

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You'll have one guy coming up with some true stevestojan because he doesn't know, and one spouting off talking points because he can't tell what's really going on. THAT is why I'm probably not watching.

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What quote button?  You mean all that vile crap you added to my post?  I never typed it...ask the mods...

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funny tom... you use the n-word and then can't even be man enough to admit it... whats wrong? scared you might have offended someone? Realize in the heat of the moment you probably shouldnt have typed out that word?

 

Poor tom. . . tough guy, uses the N-word (and the word spic, and another terrible term) but 5 minutes later has to hide behind pretending that i used them.

 

Sorry pal, not gonna work. You showed your true colors.

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Tom, the simple fact is, you brought up the n-word - most likely the most vile word in the english language -  out of NO WHERE. 

 

If I want to have an intelligent debate, it will NOT be with someone who does that.

 

Sure, calling people "backwoods morons" is not PC (hey, its not even nice), but associating it with that word and then expect people to take you seriously? Please.

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Nothing better than hiding behind a ridiculous argument. Ever heard of free speech?

 

You really ought to get out of your house more often, porchie (porn+couch) boy. Saying something like "backwoods moron" in alot of little towns in this country is just as likely to get your guts stomped out as using the word you supposedly despise so much.

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