ACor58 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Just curious to see what that douche bag thought about our draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Who, Clayton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Who, Clayton? 679847[/snapback] Mel Kiper is Eddie Munster. Clayton is Beaker from Sesame Street. (But both are Douche Bags) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Mel Kiper is Eddie Munster. Clayton is Beaker from Sesame Street. (But both are Douche Bags) 679852[/snapback] Do you mean this? A "C", which ties us for the lowest grade with 1/3 of the NFL teams. Highest grade was B+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Do you mean this? A "C", which ties us for the lowest grade with 1/3 of the NFL teams. Highest grade was B+ 679855[/snapback] Thanks DG, I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Can anyone help out with the Scouts Inc. rankings of our additions? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Can anyone help out with the Scouts Inc. rankings of our additions?Thanks 679863[/snapback] I know you asked before, but that's gonna take some time. Tune in later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 If you can't reach Mort, how about trying this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Can anyone help out with the Scouts Inc. rankings of our additions?Thanks 679863[/snapback] Here you go: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Donte Whitner - OHIO STATE Scouts Grade: 94 Overall Rank: 20 Strengths: Is a versatile safety prospect. Lacks bulk but shows a powerful upper body for his size. He fills extremely hard versus the run and is relentless in pursuit. He will sacrifice his body in run support and shows absolutely no fear. He takes good angles in pursuit and has developed into a sound open field tackler. Is fluid and athletic. Shows good speed for a DS and provides some versatility because of his ability to cover. He has proven capable of matching up one-on-one vs. bigger WR's in the slot. He has good range in deep coverage and shows the consistent ability to reach the sideline in two-deep coverage. He also is a playmaker when the ball is in the air, showing excellent timing on his jumps and fine ball skills. He has good experience on special teams. Should make an impact covering kicks immediately in the NFL. Plays the game hard and shows a very good work ethic. Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Is a bit on the shorter side and needs to add bulk to his frame. He fills hard versus the run and will throw his body around, but he does not match up well in the phone booth. He will get knocked off his feet too easily. Needs to improve his lower body strength and do a better job of knowing his limitation in terms of what blocks he decides to take on. His recognition skills still must improve. He diagnoses some plays too late and will need some polishing in that area. He lacks ideal starting experience and may need more reps than other top DS prospects before he's ready to compete for a fulltime job. He has some durability issues after knee surgery in 2004. Overall: Whitner played mostly on special teams in all 13 games of his true freshman season in 2003. He split time with Tyler Everett in the first two games of 2004, then took over as the starter and started the next five games before suffering a knee injury in the first half of the Indiana game. He underwent arthroscopic surgery and missed the next game vs. Penn State. He returned the following week against Michigan State, sat out the next week at Purdue, but returned to play in the final two games of the 2004 season. Whitner started all 12 games as a junior in 2005 and finished with 73 tackles, nine TFL, four sacks and two interceptions. Whitner lacks ideal experience as an early entry prospect that only started one full season (2005) of his collegiate career. He still has room to improve in terms of his recognition skills and overall awareness, but Whitner has a lot of upside as a versatile safety. He shows good range and playmaking skills in coverage, and he also supports the run hard and has developed into a decent open-field tackler. Whitner is one of the best overall safety prospects in the 2006 class and he deserves consideration as early as the second round. Scouts take: With Lawyer Milloy in Atlanta and Troy Vincent clearly on the downside of his career, Buffalo has qeustions at safety. However, it has far grater needs at offensive tackle and defensive tackle. Taking Whitner is a one of the biggest reaches we have seen. He is admittedly a ball hawk who can make big plays in coverage, and he is a sound open-field tackler who fills hard when he reads run. However, there are concerns about his instincts and discipline, as he gets caught out of position far too much. The Bills would have been better served filling one of their other needs, then taking a safety, perhaps even Whitner, later. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John McCargo - North Carolina State Scouts Grade: 82 Overall Rank: 62 Strengths: He's a one-gap penetrating type of defensive tackle prospect. He will fit best as a three-technique in the NFL. He shows very good initial burst out of his stance. Fires out low and with good initial power. He shows the consistent ability to penetrate and does a decent job of finding the ball once he gets through the line of scrimmage. He has good speed and overall mobility for his position. Can change directions and will pursue from behind. He is disruptive versus the run and pass. Has upside as a pass rusher if he can improve his ability to use his hands and get off of blocks. He is an intelligent and hard-working player. Was a good student in college and shows a lot of maturity for his age. Weaknesses: He is undersized. He lacks ideal height and possesses marginal bulk. He plays with a narrow base and does not show the ability to anchor versus the run. He will get pushed around by bigger linemen that lock onto his body and he struggles to hold his ground when teams run at him. He has good penetrating skills versus the run but needs to improve his array of pass rush moves in order to contribute in that facet in the NFL. He gets a lot of pressure on quarterbacks because of his ability to penetrate quickly, but he does not show ideal closing burst to finish. Durability is also a concern after missing final five regular-season games due to stress fracture to left foot suffered vs. Wake Forest. The injury required surgery and several weeks of rehabilitation. Overall: McCargo redshirted in 2002 before taking over as a fulltime starter in 2003, when he started all 13 games at DT and finished with 52 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, 16 QB pressures and three sacks. He was an Academic All-ACC in 2004, when he started 10 of the 11 games he played and finished with 47 tackles, five TFL and 12 QB pressures. McCargo started all six games that he played in as a junior in 2005 but missed five others due to a stress fracture injury to his left foot that required surgery. Despite missing nearly half of the season, he still finished with 35 tackles, 10 TFL, seven QB pressures and one sack in 2005. McCargo was a surprise addition to the early-entry crop in this year's draft. He was completely overshadowed playing on an N.C. State defensive line that included the likes of Mario Williams and Manny Lawson. While McCargo is nowhere near the same caliber player, he was an impact starter in his own right when healthy. McCargo lacks ideal size and will never be able to consistently hold his ground versus the run. However, he has some upside for teams employing a one-gap, up-the-field type of defensive line scheme. McCargo returned to play in the season-finale as a junior, which helped to ease concerns regarding his foot injury. In our opinion, McCargo warrants consideration late on Day 1 of the 2006 draft. Scouts take: Some picks are more difficult to explain than others. It's true that defensive tackle is one of the Bills' needs, but taking McCargo here is one of the biggest reaches we've seen in years. McCargo has good quickness and plays with a good motor, but he's undersized, so he has problems holding his ground against the run, and he lacks ideal closing speed. It's hard to justify taking him when Gabe Watson, Claude Wroten and Rodrique Wright all were still on the board, and it's even harder to justify trading up to do so. (Dumb sh--- ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashton Youboty - OHIO STATE Scouts Grade: 90 Overall Rank: 28 Strengths: Possesses ideal height, adequate bulk and the frame to get bigger. Is a smooth and fluid athlete for his size. Possesses good top-end speed. He has long arms and good leaping ability to challenge for the ball in the air. He is intelligent and should be able to learn from his mistakes. He plays aggressively in run support. Fills hard, takes decent angles and has developed into a solid open field tackler. Shows playmaking instincts when the ball is in the air and he has outstanding ball skills. He has experience returning punts and shows NFL upside in that capacity. Weaknesses: Recognition skills are below average. Remains too inconsistent in coverage. Gambles too often and will give up too many big plays consequently. He gives away his tendencies and got burnt for it on several occasions as a junior in 2005 (see Minnesota and Texas games). Lacks ideal bulk and strength. Will have some more trouble taking on bigger blockers and taking down bigger runners in the NFL. Overall: Youboty enrolled during the winter quarter in 2002. He played as a reserve defensive back in all 13 games of his true freshman season in 2003. Youboty started nine of the 12 games that he played as a sophomore in 2004 and finished with 61 tackles, four interceptions and 14 passes broken up. Youboty started all 12 games as a junior in 2005 and finished with 56 tackles, six TFL, one sack, one interception and nine PBU. Youboty is an early entry prospect with loads of upside but also lots of room to improve. He possesses an outstanding combination of size, athletic ability and speed, and he also flashes playmaking skills as a man-to-man cover corner. However, he inconsistent in terms of his technique and recognition skills in coverage, which leads to entirely too many big plays allowed on his watch. In short, Youboty is by no means a finished product but he has the potential to develop into a shutdown cover corner in the NFL, which is why he could come off the 2006 draft board late in the first round. Scouts take: Getting Ashton Youboty (pick No. 70) should pay off in two ways. First, Buffalo needs a nickel back. Youboty has the speed, agility and size to immediately step into this role. Second, the Bills placed the franchise tag on Nate Clements and could have a difficult time signing him to a long-term deal. By the time Buffalo has to try to cross that bridge, Youboty's technique should improve enough for him to replace Clements. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ko Simpson – South Carolina Scouts Grade: 83 Overall Rank: 60 Strengths: Possesses good upside. Lacks ideal bulk but has the frame to get bigger. Is a powerful player for his size. He fills hard versus the run and has developed into a solid open field tackler. He flashes some explosive power at the point of attack. Is a ball-hawk with playmaking instincts. Shows adequate range in coverage. Possesses adequate-to-good speed and shows good closing burst to the ball. Shows outstanding ball skills. Has enough quickness and natural athleticism to match up versus bigger receivers one-on-one. Physical and tough. Also has the skills and mentality to contribute covering kicks on special teams. Weaknesses: Lacks ideal playing experience. Is still unpolished in terms of his overall technique and recognition skills. He can be over-aggressive at times and will get caught taking too many false steps vs. play-fake. He needs to play with more discipline. He lacks ideal bulk. Is aggressive and productive in run support but will struggle to get off of blocks as easily in the NFL. Does not possess the size to consistently match up "in the box". Needs to add bulk to his frame and improve his lower body strength. Overall: Simpson signed with South Carolina in 2003 but did not enroll until the spring of 2004. He started all 11 games at FS that season and finished tied for the SEC lead with six interceptions. He missed spring practice with a hand injury. Simpson started all 12 games in 2005 and finished with a team-high 103 total tackles, including 2.5 tackles for loss with nine passes broken up and one interception. Simpson might be a bit of an overrated prospect at this point. After all, he has limited playing experience, just adequate bulk and room to improve in terms of overall technique. However, Simpson does show good athleticism and speed for his size, and he proved to be a natural playmaker during his two seasons as a starter at South Carolina. Simpson is a risk-reward type of prospect who could come off the board as high as the first round, but we feel a lot safer giving such an unproven commodity a second round grade. Scouts take: Buffalo continues to work on its secondary by taking South Carolina SS Ko Simpson (pick No. 105). Simpson can be overaggressive, and he gets caught out of position at times, but he is a stout run defender who delivers some big hits. He certainly has the natural ability to eventually push Coy Wire, an adequate starter at best, for playing time. In addition, taking three defensive backs will give them an excellent opportunity to mesh into a cohesive unit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kyle Williams - LSU Scouts Grade: 77 Overall Rank: 77 Strengths: A one-gap DT prospect with great energy and toughness. He continues to improve his technique and had his best season as a senior. He shows good initial quickness and fires out of his stance low. He is at his best when shaded and allowed to stay on the move. Is adept as a three-technique DT and does a good job on stunts as well. His motor is always running. He pursues hard, chases ball carriers from behind and is relentless in his pursuit as a pass rusher. He is tough and physical. He has adequate upper body strength and is very active with his arms and hands. Maximizes his physical tools. He has shown good toughness and the ability to play through injury; he suffered a compound fracture on his left hand during the Georgia game but did not sit out. He has been durable and reliable. A hard worker and mature young man with very good intangibles. Weaknesses: An overachiever with limited upside. Lacks ideal physical tools and will not get away with it nearly as much as he did on the collegiate level. A bit top heavy. Lacks ideal bulk and is on the shorter side. He plays with a narrow base. Does not possess good lower body strength and will not be a good fit in a two-gap scheme. He gets pushed around if reached by bigger, stronger offensive linemen. He has adequate quickness and is relentless, but he lacks ideal speed and athletic ability. He does not show good COD skills and will take too long to redirect at times. He has shorter arms and struggles to get off of blocks at times. Overall: Williams began his career at LSU as a DE and played in seven games there as a true freshman in 2002. He moved to the DT position as a sophomore in 2003, when he started eight of the 14 games he played and finished with 41 tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss and four sacks. He remained a fulltime starter in 2004 and finished with 57 tackles, 12 TFL and six sacks. Williams started all 13 games as a senior in 2005 and finished with 51 tackles, 7.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks and five broken up passes. Williams improved his draft value with a tremendously productive senior season. He was aided by all the attention opponents gave to fellow DT Claude Wroten, but Williams' play clearly improved regardless. With Williams, you know what you are getting. He fits best in a one-gap scheme and he will give great effort on-and-off the field. He has the potential to develop into a starter in the NFL but he lacks elite physical skills and will likely be best suited to play as a reserve in a heavy "wave". Williams is a bit of an overachiever but he is certainly worth drafting in the third round if still available. Scouts Take: none -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brad Butler - Virginia Scouts Grade: 36 Overall Rank: NR Strengths: Plays with a mean streak, is physical at the point of attack and works to the whistle on every snap. Takes good angles to blocks and keeps legs driving after making contact. Has a very long reach, gets into pass set fairly quickly and generally does a good job of riding edge rushers past the pocket. Has adequate lateral mobility and flashes the ability to redirect inside after starting outside. Weaknesses: Doesn't plays with great leverage, lacks ideal lower body strength and will struggle to get movement working against bigger defensive in the NFL. Doesn't have great range, doesn't play under control in space and has some problems adjusting to the moving target at the second level. Doesn't get great knee bend in pass set, doesn't play with a great base and has some problems holding ground working against bull rushers. While character doesn't appear to be a significant issue at this point Virginia suspended him for a game during the 2005 season. Overall: Butler started one of the 12 games he appeared in during his true freshman season in 2002. He started all 13 games at right tackle during the 2003 season and he started all 13 games of the 2004 season. Butler started eight games at right tackle and two games at left tackle during the 2005 season but Virginia also suspended him a game for an illegal chop block. Butler isn't fundamentally sound, which is concern considering he was a three-year starter at the collegiate level. However, he has adequate size, he is an aggressive run blocker and he has enough athletic ability to develop into an adequate pass blocker. As such, Butler is worth taking a chance on in the final two rounds of the 2006 NFL draft. Scouts Take: There has been a run on offensive tackles, with four of them going in the first 10 picks. Buffalo took Virginia's Brad Butler with the 10th pick in the round. Butler may be best known for the illegal chop block he threw on Boston College DE Mathias Kiwanuka. However, he has the tools to develop into a quality backup, and he gives the Bills some much-needed depth. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Ellison – Oregon State Scouts Grade: 52 Overall Rank: NR Strengths: Is a developmental project with good quickness and agility for the OLB position. Is quicker than fast. He shows good range when protected by his D-Line in run support. Will chase down RB's from behind and makes a lot of plays in pursuit. A powerful tackler for his size. Is undersized but has continued to bulk up and has plenty more room on his frame. Has a lot of upside in the passing game if his recognition skills and discipline improve. He is fluid and quick. Can match up physically with most NFL RB's one-on-one. He has great range-potential in zone coverage. Closes quickly on the ball and has very good ball skills. He has shows upside when turned loose as a pass rusher. He shows great closing burst and also flashes some double moves in order to stay unblocked. He also shows the necessary athletic ability, toughness and tackling skills in order to contribute as a cover guy on special teams. Weaknesses: Somewhat undersized WLB prospect. Must improve his bulk and lower body strength. Will not match up in the phone booth and will get engulfed by bigger blockers. He runs around too many blocks. Shows good quickness but lacks ideal top-end speed and will not be able to run around as many defenders in the NFL as he did in college. His angles in pursuit are inconsistent and he must improve his overall key-and-diagnose skills. He takes too many false steps and will bite on the play-fake. Needs to be more disciplined and improve his recognition skills in coverage. Possesses adequate-to-good speed, but not elite speed as an undersized WLB prospect. Also not fast enough to move to DS in the NFL. Overall: Ellison started out at San Diego State in 2002 and played in 11 games as a true freshman that season. He then transferred to El Camino Junior College and was a second team All-American selection with 115 tackles and six interceptions in his one season in 2003. He signed with Oregon State in 2004 and wound up taking over as a fulltime starter at SLB. He finished his junior season in 2004 with 67 tackles, 10.5 tackles for loss, four sacks and one interception. Ellison started all 11 games as a senior in 2005 and finished with 99 tackles, 15 TFL, five sacks and one interception. Ellison had experience at the SLB, WLB and SS positions in college but his best fit in the NFL likely will be at the WLB position. Ellison is still learning the linebacker position and he will need good coaching in order to develop fully at the NFL level. He also lacks ideal size and top-end speed. However, he is quick, agile, powerful and instinctive. He flies around the field with a good nose for the ball and he makes a lot of plays in space, which gives him potential to contribute as a cover-guy on special teams. Ellison should get selected early on the second day of the 2006 draft. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terrance Pennington – New Mexico Scouts Grade: 48 Overall Rank: NR Strengths: Takes good angles to blocks, moves well for size and can get into position quickly. Possesses excellent bulk, can engulf undersized defenders at the point of attack. Has good upper body strength, uses strong hands to lock onto defender's frame and can sustain blocks once in position. Possesses adequate initial quickness, has a wide frame and uses long arms to ride edge rushers past the pocket. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set and can hold ground working against bull rushers. Shows good footwork and flashes the ability to redirect inside after starting outside. Shows good awareness, generally does a good job of keeping head up and can adjust to blitzes and stunts. Weaknesses: While has good upper body strength, doesn't knock defenders back with a violent initial punch, doesn't roll hips into blocks and needs to be more physical at the point of attack. Lacks ideal range and has problems turning the corner when asked to pull or trap. Doesn't have an explosive first step, takes too long to get hands up when getting into pass set and has problems preventing edge rushers from turning the corner. Has had some problems keeping weight down in the past, is vulnerable to wearing down when gets too heavy and conditioning will always be critical to success. Overall: New Mexico red-shirted Pennington during his true freshman season in 2001. He started three of the 12 games he appeared in during the 2002 season. Pennington started one of the five games he appeared in during the 2003 season. He started 12 games in 2004 and 11 games in 2005. Pennington is a blue-collar player that possesses an excellent blend of size, strength and athletic ability but he isn't dominant in any one area. He isn't an overpowering drive blocker and he lacks the explosiveness to hold his own on an island in pass protection. Pennington should get a chance to make an NFL roster as a late-round selection in the 2006 draft. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Mertz -- California Scouts Grade: 30 Overall Rank: NR [ no analysis ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Lurker, you're beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I translate our picks overall to be a B. Hey listen they're always next year to get a DT. And I thought this was suppose to be a rebuilding year. It's going to take this draft and next year's draft to help this team out. Whitner was a good pick in the long run. We can always draft a DT next year or get a good one from a team that releases one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Lurker, you're beautiful. 680674[/snapback] Sorry, my heart belongs to Mort.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 These analysese are a load of old rooster. Scouts Inc can take their gash takes on the draft and shove it. The player breakdowns however, they are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Is a bit on the shorter side and needs to add bulk to his frame. He fills hard versus the run and will throw his body around, but he does not match up well in the phone booth. He will get knocked off his feet too easily. Funny, when I said this, I was told I was full of sh-- by the more "knowledgeable" fans around here. Sorry, smart guys, but I'll take their word over yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 PS - a guide to the grades: GRADE KEY 90-100 Rare Prospect Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game. Is a premier college player that has all the skill to take over a game and play at a championship level. He rates in the top 5 players in the nation at his position and is considered a first round draft prospect. 80-89 Outstanding Prospect Player has abilities to create mismatches versus most opponents in the NFL. A feature player that has an impact on the outcome of the game. Cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week in and week out. He rates in the top 10 at his position and is considered a second round draft prospect. 70-79 Solid Prospect Still a standout player at the college level that is close to being an elite player. He has no glaring weaknesses and will usually win his individual matchups, but does not dominate in every game, especially when matched up against the top players in the country. He will usually rate in the top third of players at his position and is considered a third round draft prospect. 60-69 Good Prospect This player is an good starter that will give a solid effort week in and week out, but he is overmatched versus the better players in the nation. His weaknesses will be exposed against top competition. He is usually a prospect that is missing something from his game. For example, he has the size and skills to be an outstanding prospect, but lacks the speed. He will usually rate in the top half of the players at his position and is considered a middle round draft choice. 50-59 Adequate Prospect These are usually players that play at a high level in college, but lack some measurables or skills to play at that same level in the NFL. He may be a player that has a lot of developmental qualities, or could be a player that will contribute right away on special teams or in a situational capacity. He will usually rate in the second-third at his position and is considered a fifth round draft choice. 21-49 Borderline Draft Prospect These are players that teams like something about, but certainly do not have the full package in terms of NFL talent. A lot of times, teams will take chances on character players or developmental type athletes with this grade. And often, these are players that come from smaller schools or did not standout at the college level. NFL teams are looking for 'diamonds in the rough' with this type of prospect. He will usually rate in the bottom third of players at his position and will be considered a late round draft choice or un-drafted free agent. We drafted: 2 rare talents, 2 outstanding prospects, 1 solid prospect, 1 adequate prospect, 3 borderline prospects. Explain to me how, considering the above, we could have drafted badly in any way shape or form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 These analysese are a load of old rooster. Scouts Inc can take their gash takes on the draft and shove it. The player breakdowns however, they are good. 680837[/snapback] Always good stuff Nick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 PS - a guide to the grades: We drafted: 2 rare talents, 2 outstanding prospects, 1 solid prospect, 1 adequate prospect, 3 borderline prospects. Explain to me how, considering the above, we could have drafted badly in any way shape or form... 680887[/snapback] Nick, who are the "rare talents?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Is a bit on the shorter side and needs to add bulk to his frame. He fills hard versus the run and will throw his body around, but he does not match up well in the phone booth. He will get knocked off his feet too easily. Funny, when I said this, I was told I was full of sh-- by the more "knowledgeable" fans around here. Sorry, smart guys, but I'll take their word over yours. 680856[/snapback] Yes, I made the same mistake...until AD pointed out that he's the same size as Troy Pomalau, Ed Reed and Mike Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Funny, when I said this, I was told I was full of sh-- by the more "knowledgeable" fans around here. Sorry, smart guys, but I'll take their word over yours. 680856[/snapback] Yes, I made the same mistake...until AD pointed out that he's the same size as Troy Pomalau, Ed Reed and Mike Brown. 680900[/snapback] TP, ER and MB are all top-level Safety talents. They play beyond their size. It'll be great if this kid can, too, but I'll wager he's not on their level. Polamalu is a machine. Reed is a killer. And Brown, well, he singlehandedly carried his team to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 but I'll wager he's not on their level. Polamalu is a machine. Reed is a killer. And Brown, well, he singlehandedly carried his team to the playoffs. 680907[/snapback] Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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