Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Well, Caligula is gone. I'm hoping for something more Tiberius. 680032[/snapback] We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Don't think he's fast enough, but here's hoping I'm wrong. 679958[/snapback] A quote from when he was drafted: In all, 21 linebackers ran, and their times were very good. There were guys who ran the 40-yard dash in the low 4.6s. Joe Odom of Purdue, a 6-foot-0 7/8, 241-pound outside linebacker ran it in 4.62 seconds. Angelo Crowell, whose older brother is Lions receiver Germane Crowell, ran like a wide receiver -- he weighed in at 246 pounds and ran a 4.65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 There's truth to this, but getting disruption in the backfield by penetrating DTs is suppose to get the quicker LBs to the point of attack before the ball gets rolling. The idea is to keep everything in front of you, but with an aggressive attitude. 679967[/snapback] The LB's can agressively chase my pulling guards, if they can avoid slipping on the drops of blood dripping out of the DT's helmets after my 6th trap play. And I shall run counter plays with my FB...2 yards, 1 yard, 3...I don't care. And my FB has good receiving hands. And then the DC starts to cheat up with his C-2. Tally Ho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The LB's can agressively chase my pulling guards, if they can avoid slipping on the drops of blood dripping out of the DT's helmets after my 6th trap play. And I shall run counter plays with my FB...2 yards, 1 yard, 3...I don't care. And then the DC starts to cheat up with his C-2. Tally Ho... 680099[/snapback] I guess it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 More stuff on the importance of the safeties in the Cover 2 defense "The main weakness of the Cover 2 shell occurs in the middle of the field between the safeties. The safeties attempt to gain width upon the snap of the ball to cover any long passes to quick wide receivers down the sideline. This movement creates a natural hole between the safeties that can be attacked. By sending a receiver (usually a tight end) into the hole, the offense forces the safety to make a decision: play the vulnerable hole in the middle of the field or help out on the wide receiver. The quarterback reads the safety's decision and decides on the best matchup (which mismatch is better--TE vs S or WR vs CB)." 679885[/snapback] This is where hsving a strong pass rush plays a role. Its going to take a little time for the big TE who even if he is the modern NBA style power forward athlete to get through the line, down into safety land and catch the pass. Id the DL has rushers that can pressure or sack the QB, this weakness is lessened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 We need a pass-rush off the other edge and, as I've been posting since Jauron mad his D plans public, where's our LB to cover that deep middle? He doesn't have to be a MLB, he can be an OLB, but who is our Quarles / June / Briggs? The kid we just drafted fits the physical profile, but we're gonna lose steps with the rest. Here's an article on how it's being implemented in TB, Indy and Chicago. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2271514 679867[/snapback] Seems to me that AC fits that role perfectly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I dont see why anyone is ragging on fletcher he played in the cover 2 defense in STL. He has experience in the system. This is the same fletcher who ran santana moss down from behind. Fletcher is the last person I'm worried about excelling in this defense. I'm worried more how spikes comes back from injury and who starts at the other olb position then I am about Fletch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I dont see why anyone is ragging on fletcher he played in the cover 2 defense in STL. He has experience in the system. This is the same fletcher who ran santana moss down from behind. Fletcher is the last person I'm worried about excelling in this defense. I'm worried more how spikes comes back from injury and who starts at the other olb position then I am about Fletch. 680537[/snapback] I also think the ragging on Fletcher is overblown. Perhaps you have memories of him playing lousy pass defense. Well, memories of all the Bills D is one of them stinking last year and I would not point to a particular player being more horrid that the others at some aspect of defending as this was a group failure both of the coaches and the players. However, I do remember Fletcher having the same high motor that the Bills loved to actually being doing pass coverage way down the field and taking on WRs that most LBs could not even stay in the same zipcode with much less even try to cover them. If one tries to look for stats on this issue its tough as the passes defense stat seems fairly random as best as I can tell and not a good indicator of skill in pass coverage however, Fletch generated some output that shows him to be a ballhawk. He mot only did register an INT last year but returned it 20 yards so it wasn't one he stumbled into. In addition, he tied Vincent for the team lead in fumble recovery (a paltry two but it led the team) an is an indicator he is aware of the ball and around it. Fletch's use as a KR the last several years as a Bill are also an indicator that he handles the ball well and is trusted by his coaches to track and field airborne balls. Actually, pass coverage was not his main job as seen by him leading the entire NFL in tackles credited to him over the past five years. The entire NFL. His use as a run stopper does not not stop him fom impacting the passing game as he registered two sacks last year in the endzone for safeties. As far as next year, he has played the cover 2 before in St. Louis and actually his rep and play indicates that he will be just the man if we decide to use a form of th Cover 2 known as the Tampa 2. In essence it is a cover 3 with the safeies having the outer thirds of the field rather than dividing it in half. It is the MLB he takes the central third of the field from the LOS to the endzone. His long career does present us with the danger that as he moves into the backside of his work his wheels will give out. However, je easily led the Bills horrible D in tackles credited last year and there is no sign he is giving it up yet. As the D captain, i have been impressed a number of times that when the refs missed a call, it was Fletch immediately in the face of the proper ref because he had already diagnosed the situation on the field. This football intellect will be central to this MLB correctly dianosing whether a play is a run or a pass and he should play centerfielder or support the run. Bills fans are a demanding sort and it is one of the good things about us. However, the complaints against Fletcher making first contact with runners 5 yards down the field as though this were bad play on his part, ignored the fact that in his first year as he was being credited with tackles at Chris Spielman like levels, behind our lousy DL with starters like Sean Moran (great back-up lousy starter) and having to play behind talents like Chidi Ahanatou, of course Fletch got to these players late because he had top fight through an OL blocker assigned to the MLB because all our DL plauers couldbr single teamed. The facts of letch's record is one of consistent achievement for the Bills in his time here and a proven record of handling the ball extremely well for a D player and showing a demonstrated ability to track and catch balls in flight. If someone has a case beyond fact-free opinion that Fletch is a lousy pass protector please make it as I an other are all eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 My question is: What do we do with all these players we drafted for the Tampa-style defense after we run Jauron out of town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 My question is: What do we do with all these players we drafted for the Tampa-style defense after we run Jauron out of town? 680793[/snapback] three years. tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 My question is: What do we do with all these players we drafted for the Tampa-style defense after we run Jauron out of town? 680793[/snapback] We trade them all to Tampa, Chicago and Indy for 7th round draft choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I'm not ripping on Fletcher, or Spikes. Just looking at age and allowing for a few years for a LB to develop. A speed oriented defense. Those 20 something receivers/backs will usually be able to get a step on a 30's something backer. And, as for Takeo, who has really come back 100% after an achilles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I'm not ripping on Fletcher, or Spikes. Just looking at age and allowing for a few years for a LB to develop. A speed oriented defense. Those 20 something receivers/backs will usually be able to get a step on a 30's something backer. And, as for Takeo, who has really come back 100% after an achilles? 681001[/snapback] I'd imagine that before camp, they will have to make a OLB acquisition, a youngish vet. Maybe a June cut, or maybe a trade. TKO is a big question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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