Pats 'dominant'/'dynasty'/streak - bah

[stevewin]

Throw out the Buffalo debacle and the average margin of victory is 7 points. The streak includes two OT wins, a couple stellar 12-0 wins along with a 9-3 one, and the last play FG of the SB. Indy with two unbelievable choke jobs which should have ended it.

 

No Date Opponent Score Inside information

1 Oct. 5, 2003 Tennessee 38-30 Ty Law 65-yard interception return for TD clinches it

2 Oct. 12, 2003 N.Y. Giants 17-6 Giants have five turnovers, Pats none

3 Oct. 19, 2003 @Miami 19-13 Brady to Brown, 82 yards, in OT

4 Oct. 26, 2003 Cleveland 9-3 Vrabel's three sacks bounce the Browns

5 Nov. 3, 2003 @Denver 30-26 Belichick takes a safety to set up Brady to Givens with :30 left

Week 10 BYE

6 Nov. 16, 2003 Dallas 12-0 Pupil (Belichick) shows the master (Parcells)

7 Nov. 23, 2003 @Houston 23-20 Vinatieri hits third chance in OT

8 Nov. 30, 2003 @Indianapolis 38-34 McGinest stuffs James on the last play

9 Dec. 7, 2003 Miami 12-0 Bruschi's interception clinches AFC East title two days after 28-inch blizzard

10 Dec. 14, 2003 Jacksonville 27-13 Defense gives up TD at home for first time in five games

11 Dec. 20, 2003 @N.Y. Jets 21-16 Defense picks Pennington five times

12 Dec. 27, 2003 Buffalo 31-0 Revenge for 31-0 loss in season opener

13 Jan. 10, 2004 Tennessee 17-14 Wind chill is 11-below zero for second-round playoff win

14 Jan. 18, 2004 Indianapolis 24-14 Ty Law intercepts Manning three times in AFC Championship Game

15 Feb. 1, 2004 Carolina 32-29 Vinatieri wins another Super Bowl on the last play

16 Sept. 9, 2004 Indianapolis 27-24 McGinest's sack saves the day

17 Sept. 19, 2004 @Arizona 23-12 A win is a win is a win

 

BN

[Paco]

16 Sept. 9, 2004 Indianapolis 27-24 McGinest's sack saves the day

 

I would add that Edge fumbling at the one yard line really saved their day.

[jad1]

I see a lot of guys making big plays in that list. They also play excellent defense in the red zone.

 

But they are beatable. The Bills D will be the best they've faced this year. They've shown some weakness against the run. The opportunities are there.

 

What I'm looking for in this game is Buffalo showing that they can take advantage of those opportunities and eliminate mistakes. Hopfully things will snap into place for them this week.

[maddog]

Throw out the Buffalo debacle and the average margin of victory is 7 points.  The streak includes two OT wins, a couple stellar 12-0 wins along with a 9-3 one, and the last play FG of the SB.  Indy with two unbelievable choke jobs which should have ended it.

 

No Date Opponent Score Inside information

1 Oct. 5, 2003 Tennessee 38-30 Ty Law 65-yard interception return for TD clinches it

2 Oct. 12, 2003 N.Y. Giants 17-6 Giants have five turnovers, Pats none

3 Oct. 19, 2003 @Miami 19-13 Brady to Brown, 82 yards, in OT

4 Oct. 26, 2003 Cleveland 9-3 Vrabel's three sacks bounce the Browns

5 Nov. 3, 2003 @Denver 30-26 Belichick takes a safety to set up Brady to Givens with :30 left

Week 10 BYE

6 Nov. 16, 2003 Dallas 12-0 Pupil (Belichick) shows the master (Parcells)

7 Nov. 23, 2003 @Houston 23-20 Vinatieri hits third chance in OT

8 Nov. 30, 2003 @Indianapolis 38-34 McGinest stuffs James on the last play

9 Dec. 7, 2003 Miami 12-0 Bruschi's interception clinches AFC East title two days after 28-inch blizzard

10 Dec. 14, 2003 Jacksonville 27-13 Defense gives up TD at home for first time in five games

11 Dec. 20, 2003 @N.Y. Jets 21-16 Defense picks Pennington five times

12 Dec. 27, 2003 Buffalo 31-0 Revenge for 31-0 loss in season opener

13 Jan. 10, 2004 Tennessee 17-14 Wind chill is 11-below zero for second-round playoff win

14 Jan. 18, 2004 Indianapolis 24-14 Ty Law intercepts Manning three times in AFC Championship Game

15 Feb. 1, 2004 Carolina 32-29 Vinatieri wins another Super Bowl on the last play

16 Sept. 9, 2004 Indianapolis 27-24 McGinest's sack saves the day

17 Sept. 19, 2004 @Arizona 23-12 A win is a win is a win

 

BN

50747[/snapback]

 

17 in a row is impressive no matter what the circumstances. However, take a look at how close their road games have been. Additionally only 6 of their last 17 have been on the road.

 

After looking at that list, along with the circumstances surrounding this game ("must" win for Buffalo), I think Buffalo plus the points would be a sound bet.

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[Guest Guest]

No points are awarded for impressive wins. Only for wins. A 1 point win counts as much as a 30 point win and no team understands this more than the Pats.

 

No matter how the Pats win football games they win them and that's all that counts.

 

To win 17 games in a row as they have done, in today's parity stricken league, is amazing. Even if many of those 17 wins weren't the dominating types.

[stevestojan]

Good teams find a way to win.

 

Try to tear it apart as much as you want.

 

There is a reason they squeak out some games that they do and the bills always seem to be looking for excuses (i.e. weeks #1 and #2 this season). New England has potential to win the SB again this year. We have no shot.

 

Good teams find a way to win.

 

If they won all of those games by one point, it would STILL be an overly impressive streak.

[Gary M]

I think that his point is that they are not neccessarily a dominating team. Yes they find ways to win, but very few of the games are blowouts.

 

Beside the run for the bus game against the Bills 31-0, the biggest margin of victory was against the Jags 27-13.

 

 

Good teams find a way to win.

 

Try to tear it apart as much as you want.

 

There is a reason they squeak out some games that they do and the bills always seem to be looking for excuses (i.e. weeks #1 and #2 this season). New England has potential to win the SB again this year. We have no shot.

 

Good teams find a way to win.

 

If they won all of those games by one point, it would STILL be an overly impressive streak.

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[Thurman's Helmet]

I would think winning close games would be better for a team's psyche down the line. If the game is close at the end, the Patriots are very confident that they'll do what it takes to win.

 

 

Thirty years from now, they wont be examining how much they won by, they'll just be marveling at how often they won.

 

 

Does it hurt any less if the Bills only get beat by 1 point as opposed to 14+? Are you into moral victories?

[bobinaz]

Give props to the Pats for winning and putting the game away at the right moment. But on any given Sunday, and this will be the one, the Bills will win. Like the previous post, 6 of the 17 games for the Pats were on the road. They haven't faced a defense like the Bills yet. Granted, they had two weeks to prepare as well, but I think if Grey continues putting pressure on Marsha all day long, the defense will hold them down.

 

What we'll need is to run, run, and run some more, right up the middle. That's been the Pats weakness. Let's hope our O-line can do it with the injuries they are going in with. Villarial and Pucillo are listed as questionable. That leaves Tucker which won't be a drop off from CV. But if anyone gets hurt...that'll be a blow to the o-line without any other guards to fill in.

 

So Bills nation, forget all hype about game winning streaks, because there is a point to be made for these season and it starts here. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!