Alaska Darin Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Enjoy! Great picks: Gerrard Warren, Quincy Carter, Kenyatta Walker, James Boyd, Kenyatta Jones, Chris Weinke, Onome Ojo Bad Picks: Alge Crumpler, Ryan Pickett, Marcus Stroud, Steve Smith, LaMont Jordan, Reggie Wayne, Duece McAllister. We got a C+ for a draft that landed Schobel, Clements, Jennings, and Travis Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 A wonderful wind blowing through here called perspective. Thanks AD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Enjoy! Great picks: Onome Ojo 678032[/snapback] Da !@#$?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 We got a C+ for a draft that landed Schobel, Clements, Jennings, and Travis Henry. 678032[/snapback] I could have seen this being a B at best. Henry was good for us but has falen to sh-- lately. Schoebel is a high-end of the average category of a DE. Jennings? Useless. Clements has been good up until last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 lol james boyd? who the hell is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 CAROLINA WR Steve Smith. He isn't ready to contribute at receiver, and it's doubtful he will wrestle the kickoff-return chores from Michael Bates. The Panthers spent a third-round pick on a punt returner INDIANAPOLIS WR Reggie Wayne. He's a solid player, but there really isn't much upside here. The Colts need someone to complement Marvin Harrison; Chad Johnson was that guy. Yeah. All really bad picks with no possible impact to the teams that selected them... Great find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I could have seen this being a B at best. Henry was good for us but has falen to sh-- lately. Schoebel is a high-end of the average category of a DE. Jennings? Useless. Clements has been good up until last season. 678041[/snapback] Isn't B better than C+ ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 This one is great! DETROIT Millen couldn't have done any better in his first draft. The Lions got stronger in the trenches on both sides of the ball with three potential impact players (Jeff Backus, Raiola and Shaun Rogers). Grade: A- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 Isn't B better than C+ ?? 678059[/snapback] Don't interrupt him when he's on such a roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Isn't B better than C+ ?? 678059[/snapback] If you're equating to this draft then, it would make an F a D+...whoopee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 If you're equating to this draft then, it would make an F a D+...whoopee! 678068[/snapback] good, the whole thread proves the grading on this draft now means absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Don't interrupt him when he's on such a roll. 678067[/snapback] ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION WE HAVE CONSUMED A ROLL WE HAVE CONSUMED A ROLL WE HAVE CONSUMED A ROLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Some more goodies: Carolina Panthers Reach Pick: Steve Smith, WR Utah, 3rd round Smith is a good player but they took him too high. Weinke might be a steal in the 4th round. We like this draft more than most do as they strengthened their defense by leaps and bounds. Chicago Bears 1st pick: David Terrell, WR Michigan Best Value Pick: Karon Riley, DE Minnesota, 4th round Reach Pick: Mike Gandy, OG Notre Dame, 3rd round After opening their mouths about wanting Andre Carter, San Francisco snaked ahead of the Bears to grab him. Good for Chicago as Terrell is a better need player. Getting Riley later negates the loss of Carter. Michigan RB Anthony Thomas will contribute right off the bat. Grade: A I love this one. They nailed the grade, but for the wrong players. Buffalo Bills 1st pick: Nate Clements, DB Ohio State Best Value Pick: Marques Sullivan, OT Illinois, 5th round Reach Pick: Dan O'Leary TE Notre Dame, 6th round We LOVE this draft. Clements is great, but they got NFL starters in RB Travis Henry of Tennessee, LB Brandon Spoon of North Carolina and DT Ron Edwards of Texas A&M. DB Jimmy Williams of Vanderbilt in the 6th round is a steal. Grade: A NE 1st pick: Richard Seymour, DT Georgia Best Value Pick: T.J. Turner, LB Michigan State, 7th round Reach Pick: Kenyatta Jones, OG South Florida, 4th round We love the tight ends they got in Notre Dame's Jabari Holloway (4th) and South Carolina State's Arther Love (6th). T.J. Turner should be a steal in the 7th round. Their three picks after Seymour, Purdue OG Matt Light, Notre Dame DB Brock Williams and South Florida OG Kenyatta Jones, were all reaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I love this one: BUFFALO RB Travis Henry. He indeed has second-round talent, but is he really an upgrade over what the Bills already have? Sammy Morris and Shawn Bryson could keep Henry on the bench as a rookie. He proved 'em wrong for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Matt Light of the Pats was a reach---so much of a reach he was the starting LT for 3 SB teams. I wish/hope we have reaches like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I love this one: BUFFALO RB Travis Henry. He indeed has second-round talent, but is he really an upgrade over what the Bills already have? Sammy Morris and Shawn Bryson could keep Henry on the bench as a rookie. He proved 'em wrong for a little while. 681784[/snapback] And when you look at the career-span for a RB, TH lasted longer than the average of ~ 2 seasons... then, we got a 3rd in a trade. Not bad value for him (even tho there is a sad chew-'em-up-spit-'em-out quality to the story), I'd say. But then, that requires someone who types for a living to realize that not every RB will have a 15-year career like Emmitt Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Enjoy! Great picks: Gerrard Warren, Quincy Carter, Kenyatta Walker, James Boyd, Kenyatta Jones, Chris Weinke, Onome Ojo Bad Picks: Alge Crumpler, Ryan Pickett, Marcus Stroud, Steve Smith, LaMont Jordan, Reggie Wayne, Duece McAllister. We got a C+ for a draft that landed Schobel, Clements, Jennings, and Travis Henry. 678032[/snapback] Actually if you read what they say much of their reasoning is right on. Many times they're not critiquing the player but that the team didn't draft to fill its needs. Considering the lack of success some of these teams have had I'd say the guy writing the article did a pretty good job. Alge Crumpler: They criticize the Falcons for taking Crumpler when they already used high round picks on the position in 2 our of the last 4 years. They say he has a lot of upside but don't understand the logic of the pick for the Falcons. That sounds fair to me. Duece McAllister: Their point here is that this is a luxury pick for a team with so many holes. Why draft Duece when Ricky Williams was drafted a few years earlier and had been productive? Again a solid point. Lamont Jordon: They simply say that the Jets had greater needs, like the DL and should have addressed those needs instead. What did Jordon ever do for the Jets? He sat on the bench. The guy was spot on. Reggie Wayne: One of the beefs is that he felt Chad Johnson would have been a much better pick for the Colts. Would anyone say otherwise? Ryan Pickett: They didn't have a problem with the player (if you read the Rams draft grade they give them a good grade and mention Pickett). The problem he has it that they could have moved back and still got him. I don't recall the draft well enough to know if I agree with this but it's worth pointing out that he didn't say Pickett was a bad player. Overall I'd say this might not have been the best choice in trying to illustrate your point (and your point is a valid one to be sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yeah. All really bad picks with no possible impact to the teams that selected them... Great find!!! 678056[/snapback] I just want to know, does that mean that Indy could have had Chad Johnson and Marvin Harrison on the same team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Actually if you read what they say much of their reasoning is right on. Many times they're not critiquing the player but that the team didn't draft to fill its needs. Considering the lack of success some of these teams have had I'd say the guy writing the article did a pretty good job. Alge Crumpler: They criticize the Falcons for taking Crumpler when they already used high round picks on the position in 2 our of the last 4 years. They say he has a lot of upside but don't understand the logic of the pick for the Falcons. That sounds fair to me. So, what's your opinion on Bellichick continuing to stack his roster with TEs? Duece McAllister: Their point here is that this is a luxury pick for a team with so many holes. Why draft Duece when Ricky Williams was drafted a few years earlier and had been productive? Again a solid point. And how did that pick turn out for the Saints? These analyses prove one thing. Usually teams know a hell of a lot more about what their needs are, then those who populate the draft guide cottage industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Schoebel is a high-end of the average category of a DE. 678041[/snapback] Not that I have faith in any anylist anymore but for what it's worth.... 2005 league DE rankings & grades from Scouts. Inc. 1 Julius Peppers 95 2 Dwight Freeney 94 3 Michael Strahan 93 4 Jason Taylor 90 5 Jevon Kearse 85 6 Shaun Ellis 84 7 Charles Grant 83 8 Aaron Schobel 82 9 Leonard Little 82 10 Simeon Rice 82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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