Pete Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Meanwhile Rams trade down to Denver and get picks. Our phones were ringing. Why? Why? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ths the charm Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Marv, better not buy a house in Buffalo. This was an embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Denver just traded into the 11 spot. Mother F###en Marv! 674613[/snapback] Lets all take a deep breath - draft has just started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Does this mean Ralph is moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Could have got this guy in the 20-somethings easily. Poor management of the draft. Just plain poor. I don't mind taking a safety. I don't mind taking a solid football player. But the Bills had an opportunity to trade down with somebody desperate for a QB here and pick up more bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Lets all take a deep breath - draft has just started 674639[/snapback] And this pick gives you confidence that they'll get the rest of the draft right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOfTheRockpile Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Listen everyone - we will all spend the rest of the afternoon p i s s i n g and moaning about this pick, but it is a NEED without a doubt. We gave up 55 RUSHES of 10 yards or more last year and we really NEEDED a dominant safety that can support the run and cut down on big pass plays. Look at what an impact Polamalu made in Pittsburgh and Boulware in Seattle - no question that they were MVP's of the defense. 674603[/snapback] Take off the rose-colored glasses. This is a HORRIBLE PICK at #8 no matter how you spin it. This guy is 2nd round talent at best. Safety was NOT a need for this roster by any stretch... certainly not AHEAD of O-line, D-line, QUARTERBACK even. Marv now has six safeties on his roster. Absolutely terrible. Goodbye consecutive sellouts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Great, now we can stop the run 5 to 8 yards down field ... I guess it's an improvement over last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/whitner_donte Whitner is a junior who came out early for the NFL draft and is one of the better safeties available. Is a very good athlete with the natural explosiveness and playing speed to fly to the ball to make plays from sideline to sideline. Plays with the attacking, aggressive style that is hard to find, and it enables him to consistently play bigger than his size. Flies up in run support. On passes in front of him, will bend knees, get low and drive up into the ball carrier to make the hard hit. Is a versatile safety that has experience lining up in a variety of different alignments, which will offer his team the opportunity to move him around and use a variety of different defenses without having to substitute personnel. Overall, Whitner is probably going to slip lower in the draft than his production warrants, but it is due to his lack of size. He is going to be a good all-around starting safety in the NFL who consistently makes plays all over the field, against the run and the pass. Additionally, he will be a very good special teams player in the NFL. I underlined a couple of sentences from the NFL profile. This is a fit to Tampa Nay Cover 2 defense. Think of him as a Winfield playing safety. Bggest problem is going to be big TEs and WRs. 674587[/snapback] You needed to underline "Overall, Whitner is probably going to slip lower in the draft than his production warrants, but it is due to his lack of size." Marv could have made the same deal Denver made with St. Louis, draft the undersized safety, saved money on the cap, and we would have been better off. This pick flat out SUUUUUCKS. It's freakin' amateur hour at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 He is rated an 89..Marv got 'er done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 This pick has Erik Flowers written all over it - somebody who only the Bills see as being good enough to draft in the top 10 when everybody in the whole world sees he's not that good. There's a reason why we haven't been a good team in a long time - piss poor talen evaluation and getting way too cute on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInTexas Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 My guess is that Denver already knew it had a trading partner at #11 - and didn't need to move to 8 to get the guy they wanted. I guess that Minn didn't want either QB badly enough to trade to #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Armstrong Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 He is rated an 89..Marv got 'er done! 674657[/snapback] EXCELLENT JOB. WELL DONE MARV! AN 89? WOW!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 here's a novel thought: HOW ABOUT STOPPING THE RUN AT THE LINE?!?! 674609[/snapback] Much easier to let the rbs get exhausted after 25 carries for 160 yards but hey we got a hard hitting safety as the last line of defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/prospects?rank_type=2 Whitner seems to know how to wrap players up, unlike the highly rated Huff. He's going to be a player in this league... Hey, a guy can dream can't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Marv you just sh-- the bed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Everyone says we could have had him later on but with Oakland taking Huff, I think he would have been taken at 9 to Detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Lets all take a deep breath - draft has just started 674639[/snapback] And they're going to have to chase Guards, OTs, and DTs. Would have been nice to have an additional pick or two to do that, no? The Bills could have easily had an extra 3rd rounder to fill out the roster by making the same deal that Denver just made and still gotten Whitner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Chris Brown, editor of the Bills Digest has been in the Bills' "War Room" with Modrak, Levy, Jauron, and Wilson. His last post was at 12:35 P.M. saying "some oohs went up...for that [Vince Young] pick." Nothing since. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 How about this concept: I know this is hard to do.....very hard... How about we give this kid a chance? How many bad plays has he made for the Bills??? Maybe MV tried to make a deal and could not.....I'm sure teams did not believe the Bills would take a QB, so why would they pay to get him??? Ngata and Bunkley both have their flaws too....and so do others at this point. I am willing to give Donte Whitner a chance...I read OSU fans sya they did not like him...heard some that love his upside...keep in mind he is 20 years old...and the Bills REALLY did need a Saftey Wait and see approach for me....only way Ill really get upset is if a good trade offer was turned down... Say this about Marv too...he does have a set of em as they say to make this type of pick.... Pros: Whitner, who declared for the draft after his junior season, is a young prospect who will turn 21 in July. He is one of the emerging playmakers who made fast progress in his final season. He has adequate size for the safety position, but his speed, instincts and movement skills make him a possible first-round selection. He is a very physical safety that likes to hit and is a very reliable and hart-hitting tackler that uses sound technique. He can be effective on the safety blitz, due to his speed and attitude. He goes hard until the whistle blows, showing a good deal of passion in his overall play. He has the athleticism to also project to cornerback with a possibility of filling the nickel corner role early in his career. He plays much bigger and more physical than most. He is an instinctive player who makes good decisions with nice awareness, and has the feel to get into position to make the play. He has the skills to hold his own in man coverage with the instincts, speed and change of direction skills to match up in man situations. In pass coverage, he has the makeup of a top corner, though not as developed. Cons: At times, his passion can cause him to take too many chances and get beaten. He is better in zone than man coverage. He does not have great size for strong safety. Numbers: At the Combine, ran the 40-yard dash 4.45 seconds with a 40” vertical jump and 11’ broad jump. He also did 18 reps in the 225-pound bench press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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