Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Clemons very well maybe the best QB years from now, but I wouldnt go on air and make a statement like that, would you? 672909[/snapback] These guys do, and will. Then four years from now,if Clemons becomes the best QB of them, they keep playing that tape showing what a genius he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 These guys do, and will. Then four years from now,if Clemons becomes the best QB of them, they keep playing that tape showing what a genius he was. 672912[/snapback] Or how stupid he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Or how stupid he was. 672913[/snapback] They don't play that tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 They don't play that tape. 672914[/snapback] yup, thats one for the archives.....way back in the archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I think this is probably the most fair assessment of the big quarterbacks that I have seen. I don't agree that Young's flaws can't be corrected - I think he will step up to his situation just like he's been doing his whole life. 672807[/snapback] Why in the world would you EVER want to draft a QB high in the 1st round if you have to spend years correcting his flaws? It makes no sense at all, and would be a stupid move. A 1st round QB taken in the top 10 should be ready to go after 1/2 a year of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 How many huge and slow QBs have succeeded at a high level? Bledsoe closest thing. 672866[/snapback] Are you talking in the league today, because Jim Kelly ran like a one legged dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Why in the world would you EVER want to draft a QB high in the 1st round if you have to spend years correcting his flaws? It makes no sense at all, and would be a stupid move. A 1st round QB taken in the top 10 should be ready to go after 1/2 a year of playing time. 672921[/snapback] shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't tell the 7 teams picking ahead of us, that's the only chance we have of getting a player we covet. so try to post quietly so they can't hear you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Clemons very well maybe the best QB years from now, but I wouldnt go on air and make a statement like that, would you? 672909[/snapback] Well, if he really believes it... why not? His partner Jaws compares Clemens to Tom Brady here: http://www.ronjaworski.com/free_jaws_bites.php (but he says Cutler is the best QB with Leinart second) I think Clemens will be a good one. His accuracy is very good and is supposedly a great leader. They haven't had a lot of talent at Oregon recently but they've won a very high percentage of games due to being well coached and having leaders on the team like Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Merrill, this is your neck calling. May I please come home now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Why in the world would you EVER want to draft a QB high in the 1st round if you have to spend years correcting his flaws? It makes no sense at all, and would be a stupid move. A 1st round QB taken in the top 10 should be ready to go after 1/2 a year of playing time. 672921[/snapback] Why draft any pick in the top 10 then? I think Vince will be able to start right away, but to become that special player that I think he can be it will take a few years to correct his flaws. Thats pretty much par for the course with any player though. Most that are drafted aren't special players right off the bat. There are only a few who are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 i have serious doubts about merrill hodge. he has to be the most annoying and self-satisfied football talking head on espn. and his suits are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCgirl Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I actually like Hoge. He may not always be right but at least he's willing to say not every 1st round QB is going to be amazing unlike Salisbury who thinks every first round quarterback is going to be a "superstar" in the league. How many "superstar" QBs are there currently? Let's see Peyton, Brady and maybe Carson (rising superstar). That's about it. But somehow every new draft there are going to be 3 new superstars in the league. Hoge thought very little of Alex Smith and Rodgers last year (and I agreed with him at the time). So far it looks like his opinion is more accurate than Salisbury who I remember saying both QBs were going to be amazing. Salisbury also raved about all 4 QBs when Losman was drafted. That's when I realized his opinion was not to be trusted. When has there EVER been a hit rate of 100% on 1st round QBs? Even in 1983 - it was 50% and that year has never been replicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Let me elaborate... QBs who are really big. 6' 5" + and REALLY slow, well over 5 seconds on the 40. I am thinking more like Ryan Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 hoge has always struck me as a guy who is not particularly bright. in any case, i think that young will eventually be a very good player. he's accurate, has a strong enough arm, and is a phenomonal athlete. 672865[/snapback] It may have something to do with the 40 or 50 concussions hes had. the guys brain is mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Merril Hoge also had a serious head injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Merril Hoge also had a serious head injury. 673021[/snapback] Yes. IIRC, he won a lawsuit against the Steelers and their contracted physicians for malpractice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 i think Lineart will be fine but i agree that Young is going to take a few years to develop.....i think he has Akili Smith written all over him. Cutler? i have no idea. 672799[/snapback] I agree, and I will add that no matter how many years someone gives Young, he won't make it as a starting QB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 hoge has always struck me as a guy who is not particularly bright. 672865[/snapback] And very, VERY arrogant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hoge is an idiot. The year the Eagles went to the Super Bowl, he kept saying they weren't going to the playoffs. So I would take whatever he says with a grain of salt. Too many hits to the head me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Translation: He has watched hours worth of games that they have played in. Rose Bowl, OSU v. UT, ND v. USC, etc... The guy brags about watching "hours and hours" of film more than any other analyst. You would think though with his huge lead in this department that he would occasionally be right... 672869[/snapback] He may have watched all of that film, but did he UNDERSTAND it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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