kgun Posted April 27, 2006 Posted April 27, 2006 OK OK, I know I will always miss #80, and its gonna take a longgg while to get over it. I just wish Moulds put up better numbers. I was jumping for joy when we grabed him in '96. Would Moulds have higher #'s if Kelly was the QB from '96-'05 vs. Reed from '87-'96?
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 depends on who's blocking for Kelly. Cuz not even Jimbo would be great behind our o-line. all things being equal I say Reed has higher numbers, but that's because I don't like EM.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 IMO, Moulds wasn't even close to Reed. First of all, teams pass alot more now than they did in Reed's era. So it's almost silly to compare numbers. However, Reed still had better #s than Moulds. Secondly, the Bills were good when Reed was here. So Reed would come out of games early or the team would try and milk the clock. Moulds was on teams that would need to throw because they were down. Third, obviosulsly, Kelly is the best QB we ever had. However as a pure passer, Bledsoe isn't that bad. When he wasn't getting sacked, he was looking to throw to Moulds. Fourth, Reed had much better hands than Moulds. I don't recall Reed dropping many passes and Moulds of late has had some problems with drops. And finally, IMO, Reed was one of hte best ever after the catch. He constantly got yards after the catch. Moulds would do this occasionally, but not as often as I thought he should given his size. Moulds was a good player during a very average to bad period of Bills football. Andre Reed was a great player during a great era of Bills football. Of course, Reed is my favorite player of all time so I could be a little biased.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 And Reed as played well when Reich was in there.
34-78-83 Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 Moulds, while a very very good Bills player, never matched the consistency or clutch play making ability of Reed.
shibuya Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 When all is said and done... Andre Reed is still the best WR the Bills ever had. Moulds is footnote, and one I will forget about. He could've had a better career elsewhere, but I don't think Moulds would have outclassed Reed if Moulds was playing in ealry 90's, Andre is still the bills WR by which I will compare all future bills WR's.
Mickey Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 Reed, hands down, with no disrespect meant to Moulds. I have a mental video clip I can run in my head of notable drops and fumbles by Moulds. I can hardly think of any such plays involving Reed. Moulds could make more spectacular catches here and there but he would also flub a few.
kgun Posted April 28, 2006 Author Posted April 28, 2006 IMO, Moulds wasn't even close to Reed. First of all, teams pass alot more now than they did in Reed's era. So it's almost silly to compare numbers. However, Reed still had better #s than Moulds. Secondly, the Bills were good when Reed was here. So Reed would come out of games early or the team would try and milk the clock. Moulds was on teams that would need to throw because they were down. Third, obviosulsly, Kelly is the best QB we ever had. However as a pure passer, Bledsoe isn't that bad. When he wasn't getting sacked, he was looking to throw to Moulds. Fourth, Reed had much better hands than Moulds. I don't recall Reed dropping many passes and Moulds of late has had some problems with drops. And finally, IMO, Reed was one of hte best ever after the catch. He constantly got yards after the catch. Moulds would do this occasionally, but not as often as I thought he should given his size. Moulds was a good player during a very average to bad period of Bills football. Andre Reed was a great player during a great era of Bills football. Of course, Reed is my favorite player of all time so I could be a little biased. 672512[/snapback] See that is my area in question. You would think on paper that moulds would be more elusive and would rack up lot's of YAC. But it is Reed that shoved defenders around. Where Moulds has the size and strength to break more tackles. But sure enough, Reed busted through the middle of the field ALL day.
kgun Posted April 28, 2006 Author Posted April 28, 2006 When all is said and done... Andre Reed is still the best WR the Bills ever had. Moulds is footnote, and one I will forget about. He could've had a better career elsewhere, but I don't think Moulds would have outclassed Reed if Moulds was playing in ealry 90's, Andre is still the bills WR by which I will compare all future bills WR's. 672627[/snapback] Moulds did have a better character, he only had issues with one QB. Reed threw fits numerous times. Also, he got in a situation with kelly about a woman and was pissed at him. (I think that occurred???)
shibuya Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 Moulds did have a better character, he only had issues with one QB. Reed threw fits numerous times. Also, he got in a situation with kelly about a woman and was pissed at him. (I think that occurred???) 672644[/snapback] I disagree. Reed had a few incidences but nothing I would use against him. didn't Moulds have an illegitimate child that he avoided making child support payments on in his early years, or was that 10 other Bills
Shamrock Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 I disagree. Reed had a few incidences but nothing I would use against him. didn't Moulds have an illegitimate child that he avoided making child support payments on in his early years, or was that 10 other Bills 672645[/snapback] I think Reed got kicked out of a game against Cleveland, maybe 1995 at Cleveland- was that one?
OnTheRocks Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 good question. not trying to be funny, but....i think all things being equal.....they would be equal.
Like A Mofo Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 I would say Reed and here is why: Do not underestimate that when looking ar Reed's numbers, the Bills won a ton of games...and when you are leading in a lot of games you tend to pass less....I can recall a few games where Jimo would be 9-12 for 130 yards or so in a 38-0 blowout (not 100 percent accurate here, but I hope you get my drift).... And I agree about the consistency...Reed has Moulds beat there...Moulds would have been REAL good with Kelly, but I do not believe his numbers would have been any better then Reed's because the Bills had more leads in Kelly's era.
stuckincincy Posted April 28, 2006 Posted April 28, 2006 JMO, But my vote for the best season ever for a Bills WR was 1970, when Marlin "The Magician" Briscoe caught 57 for 1036, 18.2 ypc, and 8 touchdowns - in 14 games.
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