cantankerous Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I don't think he has a drug problem, I think it was a false / positive test or the test came back dirty because of some herb he was taking. I'm not sorry to see him suspended but I don't think he's a bad person or a drug addict either. If you think smoking weed is such a problem you have no idea what real drugs are and what they can do to people.
eSJayDee Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Anyone want to try telling me he doesn't have drug problem again? I don't know whether or not he has a drug problem (nor do you). He DOES have a problem w/ the NFL substance abuse policy.
IDBillzFan Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I'm not sorry to see him suspended but I don't think he's a bad person or a drug addict either. If you think smoking weed is such a problem you have no idea what real drugs are and what they can do to people.670556[/snapback] I agree with this completely. I've met a few drugs that wanted to get in my pants immediately and try to make me beg for more every time the sun would rise. Weed was never, ever like that, and believe me when I tell you I was known to gravitate toward addictions back then. I don't see him as an addict. I see him as a moron. Drop the dope and do your time in the NFL. You have a chance to be one of the great running backs. If anything, I predict a time will come when Ricky says "I really blew this opportunity." There's something to be said about having a legacy. It's kinda too bad that this will be his. But if he's cool with it, then I'm glad we don't have to face him twice next year. I think this screws Saban up a bit, and I have no problem with that, either.
apuszczalowski Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I agree with this completely. I've met a few drugs that wanted to get in my pants immediately and try to make me beg for more every time the sun would rise. Weed was never, ever like that, and believe me when I tell you I was known to gravitate toward addictions back then. I don't see him as an addict. I see him as a moron. Drop the dope and do your time in the NFL. You have a chance to be one of the great running backs. If anything, I predict a time will come when Ricky says "I really blew this opportunity." There's something to be said about having a legacy. It's kinda too bad that this will be his. But if he's cool with it, then I'm glad we don't have to face him twice next year. I think this screws Saban up a bit, and I have no problem with that, either. 670567[/snapback] Does he have an addiction, maybe not Does he have a problem, Yes Obviously this guy has a drug problem as his partaking in this drug has affected his life multiple times and he does not seem to really care. That is a problem. An addiction would mean he can't stop doing it without assistance and no matter what he feels he has to do it. I see a drug problem as being a step below an addiction, and the only reason I don't see him having an addiction is because apparently, weed is not an addictive drug Don't kid yourself thinking this guy does not have a problem, multiple suspensions for drug related test results, he has a problem
Dibs Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Hasn't he got a stress/anxiety/depression type mental illness? If he does, I actually feel sorry for him. It's easy for us to laugh but just imagine what he will be like in 10 years time. What a waste.
Dibs Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I heard he has been banned from the Miami Aquarium.... They heard he was caught f*cking the Dolphins
Guest dog14787 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 wacky wicky is probably smoking one right now as he watches sports center 670448[/snapback]
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I heard he has been banned from the Miami Aquarium....They heard he was caught f*cking the Dolphins 670595[/snapback]
jarthur31 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Ricky Williams lost appeal and will serve a one year suspension. I really figured the NFL would cave in. 670399[/snapback] And this IS WHY character matters boys n girls.
jarthur31 Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Anyone want to try telling me he doesn't have drug problem again? No problem, right? 670501[/snapback] Are you serious??? Marriage to Juana is NOT dope dude!
Chilly Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Anyone want to try telling me he doesn't have drug problem again? No problem, right? 670501[/snapback] He doesnt' have a drug problem, or addiction, or anything. He has a stupidity problem.
ajzepp Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I'm very pro-doobie, myself.....but like LA said, the bigger issue is that the guy is just plain stupid. He's a father of however many children, has the ability to earn millions a year for the ten or so years out of his life where his body will allow him to play professional football, and what does he do? He can't put down the bong. I've known my best friend since the 8th grade - 21 years. He's pretty much doing the same thing now as he was when we first graduated high school. While most of us have either gone to college, positioned ourselves in a career, or both, he's pretty much gone from low paying job to low paying job. He lives from paycheck to paycheck, has a pretty small little apartment somewhere over by the Eastman building, and can't figure out why he's not further along in life for a 34 year old (soon to be 35) man. You know what his problem is? He can't get himself out of bed. I tried my best to help him for YEARS. We'd agree to take classes together, start a little sales business on the side for some extra money, go to seminars in and around upstate NY, etc, etc. The guy is always late, he's lazy, and simply cannot get himself going. If he could just change this ONE aspect of his life, I truly believe that he'd find himself much further along. And I know that sounds very simplistic, but it's the God's honest truth. Sometimes that ONE thing you fail to overcome can wreak havoc on the rest of your life. Ricky can't put down the bong, and my friend can't get himself the hell out of bed.
Bill from NYC Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I'm very pro-doobie, myself.....but like LA said, the bigger issue is that the guy is just plain stupid. He's a father of however many children, has the ability to earn millions a year for the ten or so years out of his life where his body will allow him to play professional football, and what does he do? He can't put down the bong. I've known my best friend since the 8th grade - 21 years. He's pretty much doing the same thing now as he was when we first graduated high school. While most of us have either gone to college, positioned ourselves in a career, or both, he's pretty much gone from low paying job to low paying job. He lives from paycheck to paycheck, has a pretty small little apartment somewhere over by the Eastman building, and can't figure out why he's not further along in life for a 34 year old (soon to be 35) man. You know what his problem is? He can't get himself out of bed. I tried my best to help him for YEARS. We'd agree to take classes together, start a little sales business on the side for some extra money, go to seminars in and around upstate NY, etc, etc. The guy is always late, he's lazy, and simply cannot get himself going. If he could just change this ONE aspect of his life, I truly believe that he'd find himself much further along. And I know that sounds very simplistic, but it's the God's honest truth. Sometimes that ONE thing you fail to overcome can wreak havoc on the rest of your life. Ricky can't put down the bong, and my friend can't get himself the hell out of bed. 670706[/snapback] What puzzles me is not the failed tests, but the fact that he failed for weed, and not a harder, more addictive drug. I have unfortuanately been in contact with countless junkies, and it would seem to me that weed is the easiest thing to stop doing. I don't know of any instance (although this doesn't mean it NEVER happened) where a man did burglaries or a woman sold her body to smoke weed. This is what leads me to believe that his problem involves depression or another form of mental illness rather than just substance. If this is the case, I do feel sorry for the man, and I hope that he gets help. Jmo.
ajzepp Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 What puzzles me is not the failed tests, but the fact that he failed for weed, and not a harder, more addictive drug. I have unfortuanately been in contact with countless junkies, and it would seem to me that weed is the easiest thing to stop doing. I don't know of any instance (although this doesn't mean it NEVER happened) where a man did burglaries or a woman sold her body to smoke weed. This is what leads me to believe that his problem involves depression or another form of mental illness rather than just substance. If this is the case, I do feel sorry for the man, and I hope that he gets help. Jmo. 670717[/snapback] I haven't smoked marijuana since 1992, but if it were legal I'm sure I would probably partake every once in a while. So when I take into account my own personal experience, in addition to the habits of some friends who use it, and also what I learned from my background in psych and as a counselor, I would have to say that I don't see it as an addictive drug either - not in the physical/biological sense, anyway. I think people can become psychologically addicted to just about anything, but the times when I've either seen Ricky interviewed or read his quotes, I just don't get the impression that he's claiming to be stricken with some underlying, debilitating mental condition. I know he's got some anxiety issues, but IIRC, he's pretty much just come out and said, "look, I don't care what their policy is, this is what I want to do and I"m going to do it". I guess that's the part I take issue with. To me it seems like he wants nothing to do with responsibility. He's all about Ricky and Ricky's weed. Being a parent is not easy, but by God those kids deserve better than what he apparently gives them. I dont know the man and I obviously don't have access to his medical records.....but if his words are any indication, I jsut think he couldn't care less about being a responsible person.
stuckincincy Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Ricky needs a positive influence in his life. Maybe he could move in with Mike Ditka.
Bill from NYC Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I know he's got some anxiety issues, but IIRC, he's pretty much just come out and said, "look, I don't care what their policy is, this is what I want to do and I"m going to do it". I guess that's the part I take issue with. 670726[/snapback] I see what you mean, but the above is the part that puzzles me. We are talking about a man who could have conceivably earned 30 or 40 million dollars, perhaps much more. I can't think of a way that a rational person could walk away from this for a seemingly non-addictive substance. I could more easily grasp the whole thing if he was a coke head, like Gastineau (who I personally met, if you will ), LT, etc. That is my only misgiving about the situation. Honestly, I hope that you are correct and that my suspicions are wrong.
ajzepp Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 I see what you mean, but the above is the part that puzzles me. We are talking about a man who could have conceivably earned 30 or 40 million dollars, perhaps much more. I can't think of a way that a rational person could walk away from this for a seemingly non-addictive substance. I could more easily grasp the whole thing if he was a coke head, like Gastineau (who I personally met, if you will ), LT, etc. That is my only misgiving about the situation. Honestly, I hope that you are correct and that my suspicions are wrong. 670738[/snapback] I don't get it either....I really don't. I remember back when he would wear his helmet during interviews cause he got so freaked out. I truly felt bad for the guy! But when the whole thing happened with him just leaving the team and retiring a couple years ago, he just came off to me like a selfish jerk. But hey, like I said, I don't know the guy....I just wish that he didn't have kids....it wouldn't bother me near as much as it does. Kids have enough problems to deal with as they grow up nowadays....the least they deserve is a loving father and mother for gosh sakes. Amazing how that has become the exception rather than the rule, you know?
MadBuffaloDisease Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Reports are that he didn't test positive for weed, but that an herb he's taking has some "upper"-like properties and is banned. I believe him that he's not smoking anymore, but he SHOULD know what he's putting into his body. Just as Jim Miller. And I'll bet the appeal was based on the fact that he should get probation since it wasn't weed he got caught for again. I'm surprised the NFL didn't just slap him on the wrist, although I suspect that had he been coming-off an 1,800 yard season like a few years ago, they WOULD have.
ajzepp Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Ricky needs a positive influence in his life. Maybe he could move in with Mike Ditka. 670732[/snapback] lol, tell me that wouldn't make a great reality show
apuszczalowski Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Reports are that he didn't test positive for weed, but that an herb he's taking has some "upper"-like properties and is banned. I believe him that he's not smoking anymore, but he SHOULD know what he's putting into his body. Just as Jim Miller. 670750[/snapback] Isn't weed just an Herb too?
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