junior Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Please vote only if you know what you're talking about
R. Rich Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Lawson is a beast of a pass rusher who should do well as a 3-4 LB, ala Merriman and Ware from last year. He'd command a first round pick though, and I'd hope we use that pick on a lineman or to upgrade the secondary. If we use it on a pass rusher, I hope it's part of a trade down to get more picks for more help.
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 Lawson is a beast of a pass rusher who should do well as a 3-4 LB, ala Merriman and Ware from last year. He'd command a first round pick though, and I'd hope we use that pick on a lineman or to upgrade the secondary. If we use it on a pass rusher, I hope it's part of a trade down to get more picks for more help. 666021[/snapback] It was part of a trade down plan...
Ozymandius Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Wimbley. His on-field production was better and they're both ridiculous athletes. They're very close, though, and whoever was healthier should the nod.
Ramius Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 I think they'l both end up being solid NFL players. I had to vote wimbley though, for obvious reasons.
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 I think they'l both end up being solid NFL players. I had to vote wimbley though, for obvious reasons. 666188[/snapback] I'm wondering what the obvious reasons are because I dont know much about both of them. Can you please explain
Ramius Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 I'm wondering what the obvious reasons are because I dont know much about both of them. Can you please explain 666221[/snapback] Ahh, didnt see you are a newbie. Take a look at where i am from on the sidebar and take a guess which school i go to. Then you'll understand why wimbley is the obvious choice for me.
#1TN Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 I am an FSU fan and I've seen alot of Wimbley and Bunkley. Personally, I think they are all they are made out to be, and more. I worry about Lawson because he did have the benefit of playing opposite of Williams.
drnykterstein Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Please vote only if you know what you're talking about 665960[/snapback] then next time add a "I don't know what you are talking about" option. I voted.. and I hope I mess up your data research project.
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 then next time add a "I don't know what you are talking about" option. I voted.. and I hope I mess up your data research project. 666377[/snapback] Whats the point of voting if you dont know what you're talking about, and it says dont vote if you dont know what you're talking about
R. Rich Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Whats the point of voting if you dont know what you're talking about, and it says dont vote if you dont know what you're talking about 666386[/snapback] Oh...you said don't vote if you don't know what you're talking about. Oops.
frogger Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 if you're trade down plan would bring us an undersized DE, or an oversized OLB that belongs in a defense we don't run, I will not vote. In protest! Viva la Trade down...but not for these guys.
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 if you're trade down plan would bring us an undersized DE, or an oversized OLB that belongs in a defense we don't run, I will not vote. In protest! Viva la Trade down...but not for these guys. 666413[/snapback] What kind of DE can we pick up in the mid rounds (17-25) that would fit in Buffalo?
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 I am reading this one magazine and it says Kamerion Wimbley has the frame capable of holding 275 lbs. Also dont forget that Jason Taylor is only 255lbs. and Aaron Schobel is only 262lbs.
MrLocke Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 I'm glad someone else brought up Wimbley. I know Peter Boulware came out of FSU, but generally FSU defensive ends are huge busts. Andre Wadsworth, Reinard Wilson and Jamal Reynolds. Why would Wimbley be any different from Reynolds, Wilson and Wadsworth?
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 I'm glad someone else brought up Wimbley. I know Peter Boulware came out of FSU, but generally FSU defensive ends are huge busts. Andre Wadsworth, Reinard Wilson and Jamal Reynolds. Why would Wimbley be any different from Reynolds, Wilson and Wadsworth? 666432[/snapback] Are you asking me? Because if you are, I dont know much about him so I wont have an answer. I'm just wondering what the majority of the board thinks
MrLocke Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Are you asking me? Because if you are, I dont know much about him so I wont have an answer. I'm just wondering what the majority of the board thinks 666445[/snapback] I was also addressing everyone on the board.
frogger Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Taylor and Schobel are both REs, Typically LEs are bigger, and who said we are in need of a DE, we need DTs, OLB and a SS before a DE, the only one I see worth taking in the first is Williams, however he will not be there. there is however a chance that Mathias Kiwanuka or Tamba Hali could be there in the 2nd round since their stock is falling. How about this, instead of going after a DE try taking Claude Wroten DT from LSU. He would fit our d perfectly and the additional pick fits our future.
junior Posted April 20, 2006 Author Posted April 20, 2006 Taylor and Schobel are both REs, Typically LEs are bigger, and who said we are in need of a DE, we need DTs, OLB and a SS before a DE, the only one I see worth taking in the first is Williams, however he will not be there. there is however a chance that Mathias Kiwanuka or Tamba Hali could be there in the 2nd round since their stock is falling. How about this, instead of going after a DE try taking Claude Wroten DT from LSU. He would fit our d perfectly and the additional pick fits our future. 666449[/snapback] This was my idea... Trade our #1 to Minnesota for their #1(17), #2 (#48), and 3 (#83) 1st. Antonio Cromartie if we lose Clements/ Kamerion Wimbley or Manny Lawson (havent decided yet) 2nd. Davin Joseph 2nd. John McCargo 3rd. Pat Watkins 3rd. Roman Harper 3rd. Victor Adeyanju if we keep Clements/ Alan Zemaitis if we dont keep Clements 4th. Leon Williams ILB 5th. Rashad Butler OT 5th. Barry Cofield DT 6th. Cedric Humes/ Terrence Whitehead RB 7th. Matt Bernstein FB 7th. Nick Milhauser C
LaDairis Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 Unless we are going to a 3-4, there is no reason to consider either. Neither will hold up against the run as a 4-3 NFL DE.
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