Kiper's latest 4 Round Mock

[BuffBills#1]

The Bold article below is Mel Kiper's latest 4 round mock draft that he did on April 12th. I like some of the picks he made for the Bills, but I thought I would change a few things, but only change players that Kiper has being picked after we pick. Here is my mock:

 

1st round (8): DT Brodrick Bunkley (Kiper has him going 8th to us)

2nd round (42): OT Marcus McNeill (Kiper has him going 49th to Dallas)

3rd round (70): OG Charles Spencer (Kiper has him going 78th to Cleveland)

3rd round (73): S Darnell Bing (Kiper has him going 89th to Carolina)

4th round (105): DT John McCargo (Kiper has him going 123rd to Cincinati)

 

If this happened I would die in happiness!!!!!

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/ins..._mel&id=2405172

 

With the NFL draft two weeks away, the one hot spot in the first round remains with the New Orleans Saints and second overall pick. While I still have North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams going to New Orleans, the outlook of the first round could change significantly if the Saints trade the pick.

 

My first-round projections remain nearly the same, with the one newcomer being NC State defensive end Manny Lawson. Overshadowed by Williams at NC State, Lawson had a very good senior season then performed exceptionally well at the NFL scouting combine. Right now I am projecting the Jets will use their second first-round pick on Lawson, where he will be used as a pass-rushing defensive end/outside linebacker.

 

New this week are my projections for the second, third and fourth rounds. You will be surprised to see some players initially projected as first-round picks have slipped to the second round in recent weeks.

 

 

 

1st Round | 2nd Round | 3rd Round | 4th Round

 

 

 

First-Round Projections

1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB USC

2. New Orleans Mario Williams, DE NC State

3. Tennessee Matt Leinart, QB USC

4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia

5. Green Bay A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St.

6. San Francisco Vernon Davis, TE Maryland

7. Oakland Vince Young, QB Texas

8. Buffalo Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida St.

9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB Texas

10. Arizona Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt

11. St. Louis Chad Greenway, LB Iowa

12. Cleveland Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida St.

13. Baltimore Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon

14. Philadelphia Winston Justice, T USC

15. Denver (from ATL) Chad Jackson, WR Florida

16. Miami Donte Whitner, S Ohio St.

17. Minnesota Ernie Sims, LB Florida St.

18. Dallas Jason Allen, S/CB Tennessee

19. San Diego Johnathan Joseph, CB South Carolina

20. Kansas City Tye Hill, CB Clemson

21. New England Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio St.

22. Denver (from WSH) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis

23. Tampa Bay Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida St.

24. Cincinnati Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech

25. N.Y. Giants Kelly Jennings, CB Miami

26. Chicago Richard Marshall CB Fresno St.

27. Carolina LenDale White, RB USC

28. Jacksonville Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA

29. N.Y. Jets (from DEN) Manny Lawson, DE/OLB NC State

30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota

31. Seattle Ashton Youboty, CB Ohio St.

32. Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss, WR Miami

 

 

 

 

1st Round | 2nd Round | 3rd Round | 4th Round

 

Second-Round Projections

33. Houston Eric Winston, T Miami

34. New Orleans Nick Mangold, C Ohio St.

35. N.Y. Jets Joseph Addai, RB LSU

36. Green Bay Tamba Hali, DE Penn St.

37. San Francisco Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio St.

38. Oakland Gabe Watson, DT Michigan

39. Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson, LB Maryland

40. Detroit Davin Joseph, G Oklahoma

41. Arizona Leonard Pope, TE Georgia

42. Buffalo Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, G USC

43. Cleveland Abdul Hodge, LB Iowa

44. Baltimore Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama

45. Philadelphia DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama

46. St. Louis Orien Harris, DT Miami

47. Atlanta Cedric Griffin, CB Texas

48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon

49. Dallas Marcus McNeill, T Auburn

50. San Diego Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon

51. Minnesota (from MIA) Chris Chester, OL Oklahoma

52. New England Brian Calhoun, RB Wisconsin

53. Washington Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami

54. Kansas City Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech

55. Cincinnati Dominique Byrd, TE USC

56. N.Y. Giants Thomas Howard, LB UTEP

57. Chicago Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan

58. Carolina Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado

59. Tampa Bay Andrew Whitworth, T LSU

60. Jacksonville Jason Spitz, C Louisville

61. Denver Mark Anderson, DE Alabama

62. Indianapolis Daniel Bullocks, DB Nebraska

63. Seattle Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College

64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB Abilene Christian

 

 

 

 

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Third-Round Projections

65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina

66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech

67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia

68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.)

69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA

70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California

71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin

72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford

73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame

74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami

75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO

76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU

77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas

78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh

79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St.

80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson

81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St.

82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee

83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College

84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana

85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida

86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville

87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU

88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame

89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC

90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St.

91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn

92. Jacksonville Jerome Harrison, RB Washington St.

93. Atlanta (from DEN) Devin Aromashodu, WR Auburn

94. Indianapolis Dusty Dvoracek, DT Oklahoma

95. Minnesota (from SEA) Le Kevin Smith, DT Nebraska

96. Pittsburgh Brent Hawkins, DE/OLB Illinois St.

 

97. N.Y. Jets (comp. pick) Roman Harper, DB Alabama

 

 

 

 

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Fourth-Round Projections

98. Houston James Wyche, DE Syracuse

99. New Orleans Demetrice Webb, CB Florida

100. San Francisco Lawrence Vickers, FB Colorado

101. Oakland Anthony Smith, DB Syracuse

102. Tennessee Leon Washington, RB Florida St.

103. N.Y. Jets Alan Zemaitis, CB Penn St.

104. Green Bay Derrick Martin, CB Wyoming

105. Buffalo Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville

106. New England (from DET) Guy Whimper, T East Carolina

107. Arizona Fred Matua, G USC

108. Philadelphia David Kirtman, FB USC

109. St. Louis Kevin Boothe, OL Cornell

110. Cleveland DeMario Minter, CB Georgia

111. Baltimore Dion Byrum, CB Ohio

112. Cleveland (from ATL) Rodrique Wright, DT Texas

113. San Diego Babatunde Oshinowo, DT Stanford

114. Miami Zach Strief, T Northwestern

115. Minnesota Miles Austin, WR Monmouth

116. Philadelphia (from DAL) Tarvaris Jackson, QB Alabama St.

117. N.Y. Jets (from KC) Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota

118. New England Derek Hagan, WR Arizona St.

119. Denver (from WSH) Owen Daniels, TE Wisconsin

120. Chicago Freddie Keiaho, LB San Diego St.

121. Carolina Jonathan Scott, T Texas

122. Tampa Bay Brandon Johnson, LB Louisville

123. Cincinnati John McCargo, DT NC State

124. N.Y. Giants Jeremy Trueblood, T Boston College

125. Jacksonville James Anderson, LB Virginia Tech

126. Denver Bernard Pollard, DB Purdue

127. Philadelphia (from IND) Hank Baskett, WR New Mexico

128. Seattle John Torp, P Colorado

129. Pittsburgh Andre Hall, RB South Florida

 

130. Denver (comp. pick) Jeremy Bloom, WR Colorado

 

131. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Daryn Colledge, T Boise St.

 

132. Baltimore (comp. pick) Rob Sims, G Ohio St.

 

133. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

[Dibs]

Apart from Bunkley, your mock would be magnificent.

Makes you wonder how much effort these professionals put into these things.

[BB2004]

I think if you replace Ngata with Bunkley I think this could be a very good draft.

[BuffBills#1]

Bunkley is a freak of nature and would be perfect for our team. Ngata would just clog up space and do exactly what S. Adams did. I would personally be thrilled if we got Bunkley.

[BB2004]

Bunkley is a freak of nature and would be perfect for our team.  Ngata would just clog up space and do exactly what S. Adams did.  I would personally be thrilled if we got Bunkley.

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Sam Adams and Ngata are not the same type of player. Ngata is more like Pat Williams, who is very good against the run.

[JimBob2232]

McCargo in round 4?! I think this is a pipe dream...but then again I dont have years upon years of history predicting the draft. I'd be suprised if he makes it out of the 2nd.

[Ghost of BiB]

You are right!

 

I'm amazed!

[MartyBall4Buffalo]

Bunkley>>>>>>Ngata . I'd be fine with the rest of your mock although I'm not really big on McNeil. McCargo wont fall to the 4th and I'd like Darnell Bing.

[Dibs]

Honestly, if we could get the players in your 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds, I wouldn't care who we grabbed in the first(within reason)

[BillsGuyInMalta]

Just say no to Bunkley. How many years did he contribute at FSU? How many years did he show he was worthy of such a high pick?

 

One. This year.

 

Before that, he barely made it into the rotation, and even when he did...he flopped. Then this offseason, he suddenly surges into the Top 10?

 

Uh-uh.

 

This guy has workout warrior written all over him. Big with the attributes but showed nothing on the field until last season. If the Bills draft Bunkley, then the Draft is off to a terrible start since they once again bought into the hype of yet another flop.

 

Give me a guy like Huff or Justice, guys who have demonstrated their skills for years at the college level AND have the potential to translate that game into the NFL. To me, Bunkley is just the second coming of Andre Wadsworth...big with the measureables, low on the football consistency.

[34-78-83]

I actually liked Mel's picks for us atleast as much as the ones you provided.

[gonzo1105]

Just say no to Bunkley.  How many years did he contribute at FSU?  How many years did he show he was worthy of such a high pick?

 

One.  This year.

 

Before that, he barely made it into the rotation, and even when he did...he flopped.  Then this offseason, he suddenly surges into the Top 10?

 

Uh-uh.

 

This guy has workout warrior written all over him.  Big with the attributes but showed nothing on the field until last season.  If the Bills draft Bunkley, then the Draft is off to a terrible start since they once again bought into the hype of yet another flop.

 

Give me a guy like Huff or Justice, guys who have demonstrated their skills for years at the college level AND have the potential to translate that game into the NFL.  To me, Bunkley is just the second coming of Andre Wadsworth...big with the measureables, low on the football consistency.

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i can understand where your comin from i really can and yes bunkley for the most part only was a stud for one year at the college level but there are many reasons for that. He first of all in his first 2 years didn't play just because he was at FSU which has a butt load of talent. His third year he was apart of a rotation. If you watch FSU games you'll notice FSU rotates a ton of players around and only leave in one DT most of the game. Bunkley wasn't that DT till his senior year. The fact you even mentioned Wadsworth shows how unknowledgable you are with FSU because Wadsworth despite busting in the NFL was a two time All American which proves that it doesn't matter how well you play at the college level the NFL is a different ball game. I'm not gonna assume too much but I assume you want Ngata. Well if you look Ngata really was only a stud for one year as well this year. Plus Ngata was at Oregon which usually doesn't have the talent that FSU has year in and year out. I guess you need to tell the Bengals what a bad decision they made taking Carson Palmer # 1 after only having one good year in college. If you want to compare stats Bunkley absolutely dominates Ngata in every stat from this past year. Frankly i'm a Bills fan and an FSU fan so i have bias but no matter who Buffalo picks I have to live with it and will learn to accept the pick so whether its Bunkley, Ngata or someone else then i'll live with it, I just wanted you to know that Bunkley was no workout warrior.

[ans4e64]

Just say no to Bunkley.  How many years did he contribute at FSU?  How many years did he show he was worthy of such a high pick?

 

One.  This year.

 

Before that, he barely made it into the rotation, and even when he did...he flopped.  Then this offseason, he suddenly surges into the Top 10?

 

Uh-uh.

 

This guy has workout warrior written all over him.  Big with the attributes but showed nothing on the field until last season.  If the Bills draft Bunkley, then the Draft is off to a terrible start since they once again bought into the hype of yet another flop.

 

Give me a guy like Huff or Justice, guys who have demonstrated their skills for years at the college level AND have the potential to translate that game into the NFL.  To me, Bunkley is just the second coming of Andre Wadsworth...big with the measureables, low on the football consistency.

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i agreed until i saw the name Justice

[BuffBills#1]

Bunkley isn't just a workout warrior, the guy had 9 and a half sacks at FSU. That is against some of the best competition in the nation. As far as McCargo dropping into the 4th, I couldn't believe Kiper would say this. I'de be happy if we grabbed him in the 2nd.

[Orton's Arm]

The best five non-QBs are Bush, Ferguson, Williams, Hawk, and Davis. If those guys are all off the board when the Bills pick, they should either trade down, or draft a QB themselves. No sense in taking a Ngata or a Bunkley at #8 when neither player deserves to go that high.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

i can understand where your comin from i really can and yes bunkley for the most part only was a stud for one year at the college level but there are many reasons for that. He first of all in his first 2 years didn't play just because he was at FSU which has a butt load of talent. His third year he was apart of a rotation. If you watch FSU games you'll notice FSU rotates a ton of players around and only leave in one DT most of the game. Bunkley wasn't that DT till his senior year. The fact you even mentioned Wadsworth shows how unknowledgable you are with FSU because Wadsworth despite busting in the NFL was a two time All American which proves that it doesn't matter how well you play at the college level the NFL is a different ball game. I'm not gonna assume too much but I assume you want Ngata. Well if you look Ngata really was only a stud for one year as well this year. Plus Ngata was at Oregon which usually doesn't have the talent that FSU has year in and year out. I guess you need to tell the Bengals what a bad decision they made taking Carson Palmer # 1 after only having one good year in college. If you want to compare stats Bunkley absolutely dominates Ngata in every stat from this past year. Frankly i'm a Bills fan and an FSU fan so i have bias but no matter who Buffalo picks I have to live with it and will learn to accept the pick so whether its Bunkley, Ngata or someone else then i'll live with it, I just wanted you to know that Bunkley was no workout warrior.

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Here is the problem though, you're asking me to ignore the fact that Bunkley didnt produce until last season, that he was...essentially...a glorified back-up at FSU because he couldnt crack the top talent there.

 

You're asking me to ignore the injuries, the torn ACL and MCL in the same knee. You're asking me to ignore the lack of size and how he might struggle with the bigger OGs and Centers he'll see in the NFL.

 

Instead, I'm supposed to be happy that he had ONE good season, that just so happened to be his last?

 

I'm not advocating Ngata by the way either, and the Wadsworth comment was made in terms of the effort that he gave once he reached the NFL. I just dont see that much of a gap between Ngata, Bunkley and the rest of the DT field in this draft...so why waste a #8 overall pick on one when we could easily get a solid starter in the 2nd or possibly even 3rd round that are essentially equal talent? Ngata has his faults, but so does Bunkley...both of which scare me off either of them.

 

I understand as an FSU fan you're obligated to give the guy some love, but I just dont want to take a chance on someone with SO many question marks over his consistency and talent translation into the NFL.

[ans4e64]

Here is the problem though, you're asking me to ignore the fact that Bunkley didnt produce until last season, that he was...essentially...a glorified back-up at FSU because he couldnt crack the top talent there. 

 

You're asking me to ignore the injuries, the torn ACL and MCL in the same knee.  You're asking me to ignore the lack of size and how he might struggle with the bigger OGs and Centers he'll see in the NFL.

 

Instead, I'm supposed to be happy that he had ONE good season, that just so happened to be his last?

 

I'm not advocating Ngata by the way either, and the Wadsworth comment was made in terms of the effort that he gave once he reached the NFL.  I just dont see that much of a gap between Ngata, Bunkley and the rest of the DT field in this draft...so why waste a #8 overall pick on one when we could easily get a solid starter in the 2nd or possibly even 3rd round that are essentially equal talent?  Ngata has his faults, but so does Bunkley...both of which scare me off either of them.

 

I understand as an FSU fan you're obligated to give the guy some love, but I just dont want to take a chance on someone with SO many question marks over his consistency and talent translation into the NFL.

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great post

[port allegany]

I agree it was a good post. But my money is we are going to draft Ngata. All this anti-Ngata is a smokescreen to try to make sure he isn't gone by #8. We only have 2 DTs on the team (Anderson and Trippett) and neither one is the type to hold a line to allow the linebackers to run. Bunkley isn't that type either. We've got to get a starting DT in this draft. Is Ngata a risk - sure, but isn't everyone. But the upside is enormous. He's 345lbs, strong, and quick. And appears to be pretty mature. There are OTs available in Rounds 2 & 3.

 

My guess is the Bills are worried Ngata won't be there at #8 and we'll have a big hole in the d-line all season. Send a little signal that we're looking strongly at Bunkley or Huff to make everyone think we have some misgivings about Ngata. These guys can fly up the boards once a buzz starts (see Justice and even Bunkley) so the Bills are trying to squash any buzz. If a buzz starts on a quick, 345lb DT, he will move up.

[Tasker]

The best five non-QBs are Bush, Ferguson, Williams, Hawk, and Davis.  If those guys are all off the board when the Bills pick, they should either trade down, or draft a QB themselves.  No sense in taking a Ngata or a Bunkley at #8 when neither player deserves to go that high.

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Best post this week, although I have to add an "if we think that QB at #8 is better than the other players".

 

I think that trading down is going to make sense since Ngata, Justice, or Bunkley will be available after #8, so why not get some extra picks?

 

Perceived value controls whether we can trade down, so if another team perceives Cutler to be worth more than we do, trade down with that team (and hope our perception is right).

 

Our value projection controls who we pick at a given spot, so if we stay at #8 we should pick the best player available, which would be any of the five you listed, but if they are gone COULD be a QB.

 

But if we can't trade down, we have to decide if we think Cutler is a better football player than Bunkley or Ngata or Justice or Huff. I'm not sure it is 100% certain, and if it isn't clear I'd lean away from QB (faith in Losman) and to the lines. But only if I honestly think that player is better than Cutler (in value over replacement player, to borrow a term from baseball).

 

But I see our best move as picking one of your five if they slide, or trading down (not too far I hope) for a Cutler-happy team and still getting one of the players we target.

[MartyBall4Buffalo]

Odds are Bunkley,Huff,Ngata, Justice will all be gone by 14. Most likely to teams like the lions, rams, ravens, eagles, ps so why trade down? none of these guys will be available then and unless you're trading down really far it's too early for guys like davin joseph, nick mangold .so the trade down peope how far would you trade down and who would you pick?